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The Ratings Thread (Part 37)
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iaindb
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by 5 a day:
“As in "coming first"?”

Like Elena Baltacha "coming first" in the British woman tennis rankings or Cowdenbeath "coming first" in Scottish Division Two. They can celebrate their success but don't get carried away.

And if X Factor returned in August with, say, 5 million viewers, it would probably win its slot but we'd still be saying "that's shocking".
5 a day
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Like Elena Baltacha "coming first" in the British woman tennis rankings or Cowdenbeath "coming first" in Scottish Division Two. They can celebrate their success but don't get carried away.

And if X Factor returned in August with, say, 5 million viewers, it would probably win its slot but we'd still be saying "that's shocking".”

Why all the rolling eyes? WWTBAM did well, so big deal. No need to throw your rattle out of the pram. Your comparisons are poor; I don't really see the point of comparing it to lower division soccer, or the X Factor.
pieboyjr
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Another 9pm slot win for @ITV1 with Who Wants to Be a Millionaire live (3.4m/14% share inc+1)

3.1m viewers for episode 3 of #LineOfDuty on #BBC2 including #BBCHD #OriginalBritishDrama

Sources: Jenny Cummins, Roxie Maskall”

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“ITV1 won the 9pm slot? On a Tuesday? ”

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“ITV flopzone wins the 9pm slot!! Wow. Bet they are glad they brought WMTBAM back.”

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“This is using the word "win" in the loosest possible sense. Yesterday some people were saying how good Millionaire's ratings were on Monday. Really? 4 million? For what used to be the biggest programme on television? And if X Factor launches its new series with 4m viewers will those people be saying "Wow! Four million for ITV1 on a Saturday night in August. Brilliant." ?

Millionaire's ratings are "okay but nothing special".


Line Of Duty is doing impressively well holding above 3m in the overnights, especially when you see how other recent BBC2 dramas have fallen as they progressed.”

BBC2 drama Line of Duty won the key 9pm slot for a third week a row, holding its total audience of 3.13m (13%) impressively. Twitter: @Jake_Kanter

So Millionaire must have been behind it excluding +1.
rzt
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by pieboyjr:
“BBC2 drama Line of Duty won the key 9pm slot for a third week a row, holding its total audience of 3.13m (13%) impressively. Twitter: @Jake_Kanter

So Millionaire must have been behind it excluding +1.”

WWTBAM averaged 3.232m (13.4%) in the 9pm slot excluding +1, so I think Jake made a little mistake there. But I expect Line of Duty will definitely pull ahead in the officials.
RobbieSykes123
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by 5 a day:
“Why all the rolling eyes? WWTBAM did well, so big deal. No need to throw your rattle out of the pram. Your comparisons are poor; I don't really see the point of comparing it to lower division soccer, or the X Factor.”

Sorry, Millionaire did not "do well" - it could only manage 3.2m, it was virtually level pegging with BBCs 1 & 2, and may even come third once the proper ratings come out. It was getting nearly 3m for repeats against Holby not that long ago...

Viewers have largely given up on it. Or, given up on ITV for the summer?*

(*perhaps we should rename it "rainy season between spring and autumn"....)
iaindb
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by 5 a day:
“Why all the rolling eyes? WWTBAM did well, so big deal. No need to throw your rattle out of the pram. Your comparisons are poor; I don't really see the point of comparing it to lower division soccer, or the X Factor.”

My point is that's everything relative. Millionaire may have won its slot but with a rating that's good for BBC2 or C4 or C5 but distinctly iffy for BBC1 or ITV1. And yes, I know there are loads of programmes across all channels with iffy ratings, but there are some people on this thread who have been impressed by Millionaire's ratings these last two nights and I'm not.

Let's agree to disagree. (Sorry if my rolling eyes offended you).
5 a day
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“My point is that's everything relative. Millionaire may have won its slot but with a rating that's good for BBC2 or C4 or C5 but distinctly iffy for BBC1 or ITV1. And yes, I know there are loads of programmes across all channels with iffy ratings, but there are some people on this thread who have been impressed by Millionaire's ratings these last two nights and I'm not.

Let's agree to disagree. (Sorry if my rolling eyes offended you).”

No offence taken. I understand what you're saying, but I think in comparison with recent ITV1 Tuesday performances, it did ok (although obviously still well short of what they should be trying to achieve). Must have been a while since they last won that slot I suspect.
rionia
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by acertree:
“Shocked to read only 0.6m (3.7%) for the Hollow Crown on Saturday. Thats lower than week 1.”

Anyone tuning it for it was first told it wasn't on due to the tennis, then were told it might be on later that, but they didn't know yet (!, seriously!), before it was finally announced that it would be on at 10pm as the tennis was moving to BBC1.

Hollow Crown and Shakespeare were trending on twitter with a lot of very confused people not knowing if it was going to be shown or not!
grahamzxy
11-07-2012
So ITV1 narrowly won the 9pm slot - BBC1/2 splitting their audience with 2 x 3m+ shows.

WWTBAM a shadow of its former self... a show like EE may be down based on historic ratings, but is still capable of 8m+ ratings. Whereas Millionaire is now getting the kind of rating a show like Pointless would get in a similar slot.
rzt
11-07-2012
Tuesday 10th July Overnights
BBC One
13:45- Doctors: 1.39m (18.8%)
17:15- Pointless: 1.75m (12.9%)
18:00- BBC News at Six: 4.39m (25.2%)
18:30- BBC Regional News and Weather: 5.86m (30.9%)
19:00- The One Show: 3.99m (20.1%)
19:30- EastEnders: 7.19m (34.8%)
20:00- Holby City: 4.73m (21.4%)
21:00- Turn Back Time: The Family: 3.10m (12.8%)
22:00- BBC News at Ten: 3.99m (18.7%)

BBC Two
19:00- Faster Higher Stronger – Stories of the Olympic Games: 1.1m (6%)
20:00- Volcano Live: 2.24m (10.2%) inc HD
21:00- Line of Duty: 3.14m (13.0%) inc HD
22:00- Twenty Twelve: 1.1m (5.3%) inc HD

ITV1
17:00- Tipping Point: 2.13m (16.2%)
18:00- ITV Regional News: 3.39m/19.5% (inc +1)
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.29m (31.8%) , +1: 136k (0.6%)
20:00- Love Your Garden: 3.33m/15.1% (inc +1)
21:00- Live Who Wants To Be a Millionaire?: 3.23m (13.4%) , +1: 205k (1.08%)

Channel 4
17:30- Come Dine with Me: 2.00m (inc +1)
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.05m (5.6%)
20:00- Beauty And The Beast: Ugly Face of Prejudice: 1.2m (5.5%) , +1: 184k (0.8%)
21:00- Gordon Behind Bars: 2.09m (8.7%) , +1: 274k (1.4%)
22:00- Secrets of The Shoplifters: 1.91m (inc +1)

Channel 5
13:45- Neighbours: 758k (10.3%)
17:30- Neighbours: 955k (6.6%)
18:00- Home and Away: 654k (3.8%)
20:00- Half Built House: 1.0m/4% (inc +1)
21:00- CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: 1.81m (7.5%) , +1: 151k (0.78%)

Multichannel
5*
18:30- Home and Away: 507k (2.4%)

BBC Three
22:00- EastEnders: 763k (3.6%)
23:00- Family Guy: 854k (7.1%)
23:20- Family Guy: 934k (9.8%)
23:45- American Dad!: 715k (9.8%)

Dave (inc +1)
21:00- Qi XL: 354k

E4
18:00- The Big Bang Theory: 680k/3.8% (inc +1)
18:30- The Big Bang Theory: 881k/4.7% (inc +1)
19:00- Hollyoaks: 643k (3.2%) , +1: 120k (0.6%)
21:00- New Girl: 714k (inc +1)
21:30- New Girl: 753k (inc +1)

Film4 (inc +1)
21:00- Transporter 2: 541k

ITV3 (inc +1)
21:00- Foyle's War: 916k (4.3%)

ITV4 (inc +1)
20:00- Goodwood Festival of Speed 2012: 0.5m
21:00- Mercury Rising: 0.5m

More4 (inc +1)
19:55- Grand Designs: 265k

Watch (inc +1)
21:00- Dynamo: Magician Impossible: 311k
iaindb
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“So ITV1 narrowly won the 9pm slot - BBC1/2 splitting their audience with 2 x 3m+ shows.
”

Line Of Duty now outrating BBC1's Monday night drama Blackout. Wonder if LOD was able to provided any sort of boost to the brilliant Twenty Twelve which was on after it..

edit: No, not much.
ChipChomper
11-07-2012
BB around 1.5 again?
Danslink
11-07-2012
Good ratings for New Girl. Only 250k down on what it was getting on Channel 4.
Tassium
11-07-2012
"Who Wants To Watch ITV?"

It's new, it's daring...
Thank you
11-07-2012
The ITV bashes are always slagging the network off on here its becoming tiresome now!

Good rating for WWTBAM its a old show with a new format which helped ITV win the 9PM slot. It shows viewers of these quiz show are fed up with celebrity's and just want to see the general public take part!
Glenn A
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by Tassium:
“"Who Wants To Watch ITV?"

It's new, it's daring...”

And the sad thing is if this thread was around in the late fifties, it would be a case of Who Wants to Watch BBC? I visited a museum today which had a fifties exhibition with a fifties television and it stated by 1958 ITV had 73 pc of the audience in regions that could receive ITV.
danisfunny
11-07-2012
Any BB ratings, or prime time shares for the main 5??
grahamzxy
11-07-2012
The ratings were well shared last night. I know here we love it when one show/channel has a dominant evening.

Channel 4 did pretty okay, especially when +1 is included. BBC2 did exceptionally well. In comparison ITV1 and BBC1 were pretty average.

It looks like BBC1 won primetime with ITV1 a couple of percent behind.
SamuelW
11-07-2012
Theres a show about ratings on Itv1 soon:
Quote:
“TV's Biggest Blockbusters
Saturday, 21 July 2012, 8:35PM - 10:30PM

As 2012 sees Britain complete the digital switchover, this two-hour special for ITV1 counts down the biggest rating television shows ever to hit our screens.

These days, shows and events such as The X Factor final, England football matches and royal weddings still manage to pull in huge audiences as the nation gets together to watch talked-about TV.

But back in the days of a mere four channels to choose from, even the most unexpected shows could attract staggering viewing figures.

Split into four categories, Entertainment; Live Events; Drama and Soaps; and Comedy, TV’s Biggest Blockbusters counts down the top ten shows with the biggest audiences in each section.

This exclusive programme, based purely on viewing figures, features ratings hits such as Jim’ll Fix It, The Royal Variety Performance, The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s wedding, Coronation Street, EastEnders and Bread, and also reveals more unusual ratings blockbusters.

Who knew an episode of Neighbours where nothing much happens could have attracted an audience of over 21 million during a stormy night in Britain in February 1990?

Or that the highest ever rating episode of game show Double Your Money, with an audience of 19.4 million, was filmed in Soviet Russia? Host Hughie Green wasn’t even allowed to hand out cash in the communist state, so had to change the prizes to commodities instead with a TV being worth more than the average annual wage.

Who can forget the cubs eating their dinner on a rollercoaster on Jim’ll Fix It? Or Torvill and Dean skating at the final of the 1994 Winter Olympics?

Dirty Den serving Angie with divorce papers on Christmas Day in the Queen Vic? Or Hilda Ogden leaving the Weatherfield cobbles for the last time?

And who remembers Oh No It’s Selwyn Froggitt – which drew in a mammoth 21 million viewers during March 1977. Or Market in Honey Lane, a soap about a market in East End London which made it to number seven in the countdown with an audience of 19.5m in 1969.

And they discuss the huge worldwide events like the shooting of JFK and the Apollo 13 mission which saw television sets being used for the first time as a means of watching the news unfold across the pond.

During the Entertainment show countdown, which includes hits such as Double Your Money, It’ll Be Alright on the Night and This is You Life, TV Presenter Melanie Sykes reveals that she once wrote to Jimmy Saville hoping he could make her dreams come true.

She says: “I wanted Jim to fix it for me to be a Charlie’s Angel. It never happened.”

Sir Trevor McDonald talks about the countdown of Live Events, including the Apollo 13 mission to land on the moon in 1970.

He talks about the nation watching live coverage on television to find out if the astronauts would return to earth safely after Apollo 13 suffered a fire and the mission was aborted. He says: “This is supposed to be the start of the new age of space travel…it must not end in failure.”

In the drama and soaps category, which includes London’s Burning, Neighbours, Dallas and The Sweeney, William Roache looks back on Inspector Morse. He says: “Inspector Morse was always classic crime with a little bit of culture.”

In the comedy category, which includes To The Manor Born, The Benny Hill Show and Only Fools and Horses, actress Jean Boht talks about her role as Mrs Boswell in hit sitcom Bread.

She says: “We were all very individual personalities and created characters, but what made it work was the table scenes.””

-joe-
11-07-2012
Does anyone know the ratings for Big Bro (with +1 if poss) and also new comedy Trollied that was on Sky1 @ 9pm? Cheers
AnthonyC
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Theres a show about ratings on Itv1 soon:

Quote:
TV's Biggest Blockbusters
Saturday, 21 July 2012, 8:35PM - 10:30PM

And who remembers Oh No It’s Selwyn Froggitt – which drew in a mammoth 21 million viewers during March 1977. Or Market in Honey Lane, a soap about a market in East End London which made it to number seven in the countdown with an audience of 19.5m in 1969.”

I don't. Oh wait, it was on ITV.

I'm sure given this programme will air on ITV they will endeavour to look at official ratings and not those where the ratings sources are questionable pre-BARB to present a ITV-biased view of the top programmes.

Didn't Pip Schofield do a programme like this in the 90's called Televisions Greatest Hits on BBC ONE? I wonder who will be presenting this Channel 4-esque list show...
Andy23
11-07-2012
The usual suspects changing the goal posts of success to ensure ITV is seen to have a bad night every night.

At the end of the day when was the last time ITV won 9pm on a Tuesday outside of football and events?

WWTBAM is doing solidly, could do with being about 0.5-1.0m higher but comparisons with 1998 are stupid. Based on that definition EastEnders was a massive flop last night, it's lost about 10m viewers!

Love your Garden is doing decently as well.
chrismcgregor42
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by -joe-:
“Does anyone know the ratings for Big Bro (with +1 if poss) and also new comedy Trollied that was on Sky1 @ 9pm? Cheers”

Trolled was series one just repeated. Series two starts in September!
Georged123
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Theres a show about ratings on Itv1 soon:”

Did GlennA produce this show?
allthingsuk
11-07-2012
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“Gone where? Gone 5 nights because that's where it will be in 10 years time. Still one of the most watched programes 27 years later it's going nowhere”

That would be a pretty poor decision in my view. The quality's already pretty patchy and inconsistent 4 nights a week, let alone 5. EastEnders hasn't fully recovered from the move to 4 nights a week in 2001. Initially, the move was good and quality was still excellent but the quality got more and more diluted. If anything, the last time EastEnders was consistently brilliant for a long period of time is when it was only on three times a week. Plus there should be variety in the schedule, not EastEnders spearheading the schedule every weeknight.
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