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Old 28-06-2012, 09:55
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Very interesting and thanks for that link. Somewhat surprised that it has fallen out the top ten viewing, but nowadays I've no idea how they come to a definitive figure, with 3 separate TOTP showings, people recording it, and people watching on the BBC Catch Up player. How on earth do you get a meaningful figure from all that?

Also, before I joined the group, I was reading how 1977 was being looked forward to much more than 1976, so would have expected viewing to have at the very least held up, or maybe increased, so it's disappointing, because it could give ammunition to those who wish to end the run.

For me, it is the ultimate BBC catch up, just 35 years, not a few days, having been just that bit too young by a couple of years.

I wonder, is BBC4 the best place for these shows? Views on BBC2 or even BBC3?
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Old 28-06-2012, 10:53
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Woo hoo! We got a 2nd continued thread!! Ye ha!!
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Old 28-06-2012, 10:55
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Those viewing figures are viewing figures for individual broadcasts of programmes but include timeshifted viewings watched within 7 days of the programme being broadcast on TV. I believe this includes iPlayer viewings for the BBC.

A programme such as TOTP 1977 will have its audience fragmented across three broadcasts of the programme and I assume, although I don't know for certain, that the timeshift audience will also be fragmented across those three broadcasts. Perhaps someone with a better understanding of how BARB compiles its weekly figures can explain the compilation process with better clarity.

As for the channel these broadcasts should be on, I believe that BBC3 is aimed at the under 35s which would rule out that channel while BBC4 has a wider remit that includes music. Other than BBC4 that only leaves BBC2 and perhaps the programme is too niche for a mainstream TV channel. TOTP2 is the preferred TOTP alternative that BBC2 prefers to broadcast as it includes performances from a wide variety of acts, in a wide variety of musical styles and from across several decades hence it has a wider appeal.
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Old 28-06-2012, 15:21
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Those viewing figures are viewing figures for individual broadcasts of programmes but include timeshifted viewings watched within 7 days of the programme being broadcast on TV. I believe this includes iPlayer viewings for the BBC.

A programme such as TOTP 1977 will have its audience fragmented across three broadcasts of the programme and I assume, although I don't know for certain, that the timeshift audience will also be fragmented across those three broadcasts. Perhaps someone with a better understanding of how BARB compiles its weekly figures can explain the compilation process with better clarity.

As for the channel these broadcasts should be on, I believe that BBC3 is aimed at the under 35s which would rule out that channel while BBC4 has a wider remit that includes music. Other than BBC4 that only leaves BBC2 and perhaps the programme is too niche for a mainstream TV channel. TOTP2 is the preferred TOTP alternative that BBC2 prefers to broadcast as it includes performances from a wide variety of acts, in a wide variety of musical styles and from across several decades hence it has a wider appeal.
I think it suits BBC4 the best, and the channel is infact one of my favourites generally nowadays.
Regarding the differences between the early trimmed down episode and the later one, last week this made a huge difference to my enjoyment of the edition. The early one was quite disappointing, yet with the extra additions of at least 4 more songs later it made the full TOTP much better all round, and it is a shame that the full length cannot be shown in the early slot, down to the obsession with half hour blocks of programming.

(by the way, as a relative newcomer, what is the reason why they close down the old thread so that a Part 2 has to be created?)

Tonight is THAT chart! The contested Rod/Pistols 1/2.
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Old 28-06-2012, 15:52
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(by the way, as a relative newcomer, what is the reason why they close down the old thread so that a Part 2 has to be created?)
Because the more posts there is in a thread the forum could struggle to load
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Old 28-06-2012, 17:00
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Part-quoted post by Rich Tea, from page 123 of the first Top of the Pops: 1977 discussion thread:


Also, before I joined the group, I was reading how 1977 was being looked forward to much more than 1976, so would have expected viewing to have at the very least held up, or maybe increased, so it's disappointing, because it could give ammunition to those who wish to end the run.

For me, it is the ultimate BBC catch up, just 35 years, not a few days, having been just that bit too young by a couple of years.

Even though there are a lot of regulars who post about Top of the Pops on this forum, it's a small number compared to how many watch Top of the Pops: 1977 on BBC Four. We've all got our opinions on the music acts which have been appearing on the programme, and it's good to read varied opinions, even if we may not always agree.

I'm seeing these editions of Top of the Pops for the first time. Started watching the original run around 1983-84, and in hindsight it was at a time when some long running presenters were leaving Top of the Pops (Dave Lee Travis for instance).

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Old 28-06-2012, 17:34
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Ooh, a fresh new thread all set for tonight's episode.
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Old 28-06-2012, 18:37
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Because the more posts there is in a thread the forum could struggle to load
Thanks for the explanation Chemical, much appreciated.
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Old 28-06-2012, 18:42
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Part-quoted post by Rich Tea, from page 123 of the first Top of the Pops: 1977 discussion thread:





Even though there are a lot of regulars who post about Top of the Pops on this forum, it's a small number compared to how many watch Top of the Pops: 1977 on BBC Four. We've all got our opinions on the music acts which have been appearing on the programme, and it's good to read varied opinions, even if we may not always agree.

I'm seeing these editions of Top of the Pops for the first time. Started watching the original run around 1983-84, and in hindsight it was at a time when some long running presenters were leaving Top of the Pops (Dave Lee Travis for instance).
Bad luck to begin watching in 1983/1984. Those were great years themselves, but from 1985 I think it was a decline, and the shows and the music, and even the presentation at the end of the 80's was generally much poorer. I mean, Sybill Roscoe presenting TOTP, Jesus Christ!

There'll be much to say about tonight's one, so enjoy/endure!
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:31
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:32
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This is a jolly little number.
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:34
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Would take another 5 years for South African Gumboots grooves to be fully accepted via Paul Simon.

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Old 28-06-2012, 19:37
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What a hideous cut on 'Telephone Line' there.
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:39
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What a hideous cut on 'Telephone Line' there.
Yeah, was a bit obvious wasn't it?
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:41
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Hmm - I can see why Malcolm McLAren took a launch up the Serpentine with this pile of crap "Silver Jubilee".
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:41
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No recollection of the Neil Innes track. Oh, where were the pistols when you needed them?
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:41
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Strong three to start and then this absolute clunker.

Dismal.
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:41
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Good to see Johnny Rotten wearing a flat cap...

This is dreadful!
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:45
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Good to see Johnny Rotten wearing a flat cap...

This is dreadful!
Neil Innes, TO THE TOWER!! Sycophantic, inane drivel.
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:45
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I've just remembered that two days after this edition of TOTP was broadcast back in 1977 I went on a holiday with the family to Butlins in Skegness for a week...
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:51
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We Need Low Camera Angles!
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:52
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We Need Low Camera Angles!
FILTH!

I agree though....
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:53
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This is more like it, an excellent song by Bob Marley.
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:54
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YESSS! Bob Marley...Made my night!!
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Old 28-06-2012, 19:56
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It's got to be the quickest 30 mins of the week!!
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