[5 a day]

Originally Posted by Straker

One of the most historic matches in Wimbledon history

Seriously?

[Mark F]

Originally Posted by 5 a day

Seriously?

Upsets wise..yes.

Also like in football real fans of tennis don't just pay or want to see the Brits (well hardly any get far enough!) but also all the top players from around the world.

Its a tricky situation though..maybe the BBC should just have a load of reapeats lined up or something for this time of year so it doesn't matter if the tennis over-runs.

In theory Monday should be the last day such problems occur.

[Muttley76]

Originally Posted by DavetheScot

I do appreciate the need to show the Murray match, but I don't see why it has to be on BBC1 when tennis is already in the schedules for BBC2. Anyone who wants to see the tennis is fully capable of switching over.

And, even if you accept the switching channels, why not show Raiders on BBC2 instead of putting on a load of unscheduled programmes that those who might have wanted to watch them wouldn't know were on?

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Did you even actually read my post before responding? Because the answer as to why the tennis couldn't just stay on bbc2 is right there!

Likewise, there was not any possibility whatsoever that the indy film (or casulty later) could be moved to BBC2 because of the very expensive, very important shakespeare drama that was on that channel last night, and this was not something that that would be axed especially not so that a film that was made 30 years ago, is available widely on dvd, and has been shown as recently as the xmas period on the bbc could remain in the schedule.

The whole reason that film was scheduled in the first place was because it would be easy to bump if they needed to. It's pretty simple really.

[BomoLad]

I was a bit annoyed other night when The Thick of It on the BBC HD channel was completely bumped because the tennis over-ran by about six minutes. It did seem a bit excessive. I wouldn't have mind waiting an extra six minutes to watch it.

[bob up and down]

Originally Posted by Rich Tea.

Guess what, Andy Murray plays tennis for quite a few of these other weeks too, in some very important tournaments and 3 other majors, yet come Wimbledon, which I enjoy, the annual OTT expectation kicks in as if this championship, although the biggest and best, is the only one that matters, and all common sense in scheduling goes out the window. I'd have understood if this was a quarter or semi final, but a 3rd round?! Even so, it was likely better than the regular substandard generic production line of Saturday BBC nowadays.

Andy Murray is just going to be Tim Henman all over again, in the same way the England team live up to expectations and lose on penalties almost every time it matters.
By 25 almost all the champions have won their first, second and more majors anyway.
The BBC always lose sense of perspective come Wimbledon in a way that they would not and do not in other sports.

Probably because the BBC bigwigs are all members of the AEC and have seats in all the important places at Wimbledon. Tennis is a very middle-upper class sport and so are the big bods at the BBC.

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by bob up and down

Probably because the BBC bigwigs are all members of the AEC and have seats in all the important places at Wimbledon. Tennis is a very middle-upper class sport and so are the big bods at the BBC.

Or probably not.

[striing]

Originally Posted by the_lostprophet

Hmm most people seem to have enjoyed it. Personally I don't see a problem with the play itself translating for TV - I haven't seen this version yet but I enjoyed the Derek Jacobi version from years ago.

Anyway in retrospect I don't think there was a chance that the BBC would have bumped Richard II. The Hollow Crown is too much of an important event for the BBC; the films have been timed to be aired the four weekends before the Olympics as the series is part of the cultural Olympiad.

I don't think they should have bumped it. I was just saying I didn't like it. I thought the Julius Caesar (which will get a much smaller audience) was much stronger.

[Jules 1]

Originally Posted by Rich Tea.

Andy Murray is just going to be Tim Henman all over again, in the same way the England team live up to expectations and lose on penalties almost every time it matters.
By 25 almost all the champions have won their first, second and more majors anyway.
The BBC always lose sense of perspective come Wimbledon in a way that they would not and do not in other sports.

No quite a few major winners have won their major after 25.

Gastón Gaudio [ARG] 25 French 2004
Thomas Johansson [SWE} 26 Aus Open 2002
Albert Costa [SPA] 26 French 2002
Goran Ivanišević {[CRO] 29 Wimbeldon 2001

[Matt70]

I think they should just schedule all the tennis on BBC1 in the first place. There would then not be the schedule problem. It was obvious with the centre court schedule that they would be playing late,

Serena Williams match was45 minutes longer than normally expect,
Ferrer/ Roodick would be expected to be a 4 set match. Murray would also be expected to be 4 sets.

Another point; with the 11pm curfew at wimbledon why did they not start an hour earlier and have a longer break between matches if one finished earleir than anticipated.

[Gill P]

Originally Posted by Straker

One of the most historic matches in Wimbledon history and you think they should instead have shown Jacques Piretti’s interminable series on why eating cakes, burgers and sugar while doing no exercise makes lardarses fat?

How can this be interminable? There are only three episodes and one was ditched for the interminable tennis! Anyway if you had watched Jacques Piretti's programme you would see what he is trying to get across. Obviously passed you by.

[sea138]

I was out last night, so missed it. Did BBC1 stick with the entire match right through to past 11pm, including when it took half an hour to close the roof at Wimbledon?

[SouthCity]

Originally Posted by sea138

I was out last night, so missed it. Did BBC1 stick with the entire match right through to past 11pm, including when it took half an hour to close the roof at Wimbledon?

The lottery draws were on during the break (9.20-9.30) followed by a news summary.

The main news followed the tennis at 11.15.

[Martin Phillp]

I'm not the biggest fan of tennis, but the last half an hour was probably the most tense game I've watched of any Wimbledon grand slam match for the last few years and justified bumping Casualty for and I'd guess have more viewers in that slot.

However, it does show the limitations of the BBC scheduling when they can't squeeze Casualty on BBC2 for a week. (Coast and TOTP2 were shown instead before Shakespeare)

[StarSupernova]

Originally Posted by Rich Tea.

Guess what, Andy Murray plays tennis for quite a few of these other weeks too, in some very important tournaments and 3 other majors, yet come Wimbledon, which I enjoy, the annual OTT expectation kicks in as if this championship, although the biggest and best, is the only one that matters, and all common sense in scheduling goes out the window. I'd have understood if this was a quarter or semi final, but a 3rd round?! Even so, it was likely better than the regular substandard generic production line of Saturday BBC nowadays.

Andy Murray is just going to be Tim Henman all over again, in the same way the England team live up to expectations and lose on penalties almost every time it matters.
By 25 almost all the champions have won their first, second and more majors anyway.
The BBC always lose sense of perspective come Wimbledon in a way that they would not and do not in other sports.

That's not the point. So a few programmes get rescheduled - big deal. Wimbledon is here in the United Kingdom, why wouldn't it be shown? It's only 2 weeks.

Never mind the OTT expectations, how about the OTT reactions when 'Mock the Week' is pushed back a couple of days.

[franchise]

Originally Posted by Granny McSmith

The thing is, it's surely not beyond the BBC to realise that tennis is going to overrun(it always does) and not put any new programmes on in Wimbledon fortnight?

I was worried about the Shakespeare getting bumped, luckily it was OK, but why schedule it for this week?

I don't think it's a case of viewers being selfish, just bad organisation by the BBC. It's like they don't want to be accused of putting rubbish and repeats on in Wimbledon fortnight, then end up cancelling everything anyway. Worst of both worlds.

And please don't spring to the defence of BBC and tell me I'm a BBC basher - I just praised it on the Richard II thread.

I think this pretty much sums it up to me. It's not the showing the tennis, it's the messing everything else around to show it.

We see it all the time when a football game is scheduled that can go to extra time or penalties, schedule a load of repeats and fillers that can easily be dropped.

Since the roof was fitted, we've known tennis can go on until late, so schedule it for that. If it means delaying a series starting for a week, so be it. It's better to do that in advance than on the night.

Switching channels is just chasing ratings. If people are too thick to turn to BBC2 when advised an exciting finish is in prospect, then so be it.

[Kapellmeister]

Originally Posted by Straker

One of the most historic matches in Wimbledon history and you think they should instead have shown Jacques Piretti’s interminable series on why eating cakes, burgers and sugar while doing no exercise makes lardarses fat?

I agree. Nadal/Rosol should've been on BBC1 as it was the most remarkable match I've ever seen. We won't see anything quite like it for many years.

[barnsleykeith]

According to the RadioTimes Raiders is on next Saturday. It's the Womens final at Wimbledon, so not much chance of overrun next week?

[maycontainnuts]

I wish somebody would sort out this thread title

[scorpiofootiema]

Wimbledon v The BBC Programme Schedulers

[comedy89]

No wonder literacy in schools needs improving, with kids insisting to watch 31 year old films.

Learn to spell before writing a thread, or at least spell check.

[Straker]

Originally Posted by Gill P

How can this be interminable? There are only three episodes and one was ditched for the interminable tennis! Anyway if you had watched Jacques Piretti's programme you would see what he is trying to get across. Obviously passed you by.

3 weeks of programmes to conclude that bloaters should eat less Maccy D’s, so yes - Interminable. I did watch the first one BTW and too many of Piretti’s other godawful programmes before coming to my senses. The man’s a joke - Shouldn’t he be off making another programme about Michael Jackson soon?

[ewoodie]

Heaven help some of you lot when the Olympics start.

[Pasta]

There have been three evenings when great matches ran really late (Nadal, Federer, Murray); the BBC can't foresee these and it would probably be impossible to create scheduling that allowed for instant reaction to the vagaries of Wimbledon's own scheduling and the fates of individual players. It does seem that the BBC hadn't quite taken on board the impact of the roofed Centre Court and possible play till 11pm (the 8pm Today a t6 Wimbledon segment has been pointless), but hopefully they'll be better prepared next year.

[thms]

Originally Posted by Rich Tea.

Guess what, Andy Murray plays tennis for quite a few of these other weeks too, in some very important tournaments and 3 other majors, yet come Wimbledon, which I enjoy, the annual OTT expectation kicks in as if this championship, although the biggest and best, is the only one that matters, and all common sense in scheduling goes out the window. I'd have understood if this was a quarter or semi final, but a 3rd round?! Even so, it was likely better than the regular substandard generic production line of Saturday BBC nowadays.

Andy Murray is just going to be Tim Henman all over again, in the same way the England team live up to expectations and lose on penalties almost every time it matters.
By 25 almost all the champions have won their first, second and more majors anyway.
The BBC always lose sense of perspective come Wimbledon in a way that they would not and do not in other sports.

don't think that will apply this year.. andy is the chosen one

[jsmith99]

Originally Posted by StarSupernova

There are 50 other weeks for normal schedules.

You mean like the last three weeks? Or was it three months....it feels like it.

And I have a vague idea there's something coming up this month which will drive out normal scheduling.

There are millions of people in this country who can't abide watching sports. However, they don't complain when sports (or any other 'rubbish' they don't like) are scheduled.

It's just a pity the TV programmes can't then stick to their schedules ... no-one's going to suffer in the slightest if they miss the last 10 minutes of a sport event.