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Old 11-01-2013, 19:28
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No, I think Johnny has always been a bit of a git.
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Old 11-01-2013, 19:30
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Just saw The Dumping Ground Extra. (Behind the scenes and profiles)
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Old 11-01-2013, 19:33
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No, I think Johnny has always been a bit of a git.
I disagree, I think Johnny is great. That's partly due to Joe Maw's acting though, because regardless of what you think of the character, you can't deny that Joe is an absolutely fantastic actor. I wasn't so keen on the character at first, but over the last few series, he's grown on me.
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Old 11-01-2013, 19:39
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I disagree, I think Johnny is great. That's partly due to Joe Maw's acting though, because regardless of what you think of the character, you can't deny that Joe is an absolutely fantastic actor. I wasn't so keen on the character at first, but over the last few series, he's grown on me.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not having a go at the character or the actor. I think his 'gittiness' (as perceived by me) comes from having to look after himself and Tee. Sometimes he can seem a bit cruel. I think he is subconciously scared to get too close to anyone.
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Old 11-01-2013, 19:41
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Did anyone else think Johnny behaved completely out of character in this episode? He's my favourite character, but he was horrible this week, and totally deserved the prank they played on him. He redeemed himself marginally at the end, but I didn't think his behaviour made sense at all. Unless he was angry at Jody and Tyler for the way they treated him last week, but if that was the case, it should have been clearer.
His character seems a bit more mature in this series and he's not angry all the time. However, this week's episode didn't show him at his best. Although this isn't the first time he has been horrible. Remember when he didn't support his own sister after she made a mistake? He can be mean sometimes but that side of him doesn't often last long.

BIB - I'm guessing that's probably why but like you said, it should have been more clearer to the audience.
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Old 11-01-2013, 20:00
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Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not having a go at the character or the actor. I think his 'gittiness' (as perceived by me) comes from having to look after himself and Tee. Sometimes he can seem a bit cruel. I think he is subconciously scared to get too close to anyone.
Yes, exactly. I think one of the reasons I like Johnny is that even when he's not at his best, you can generally understand why (with the exception of this week, and possibly a couple of other times). Interestingly, he has exactly the same problem with Tee as Lily has with Poppy and Rosie. Johnny and Lily have never had that much to do with one another, have they? It would be interesting to explore that in an episode.

His character seems a bit more mature in this series and he's not angry all the time. However, this week's episode didn't show him at his best. Although this isn't the first time he has been horrible. Remember when he didn't support his own sister after she made a mistake? He can be mean sometimes but that side of him doesn't often last long.

BIB - I'm guessing that's probably why but like you said, it should have been more clearer to the audience.
Yeah, he can. Although on that occasion, Tee had lost them their holiday which everyone was pissed about (which I agree is no excuse, as Tee stood up for him over everyone last week, even though she's much younger.) But at least on that occasion he had some kind of reason. This week he just seemed unkind for the sake of it. Probably because of last week, but that was unclear.
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Old 11-01-2013, 20:07
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Yes, exactly. I think one of the reasons I like Johnny is that even when he's not at his best, you can generally understand why (with the exception of this week, and possibly a couple of other times). Interestingly, he has exactly the same problem with Tee as Lily has with Poppy and Rosie. Johnny and Lily have never had that much to do with one another, have they? It would be interesting to explore that in an episode.

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Yeah, he can. Although on that occasion, Tee had lost them their holiday which everyone was pissed about (which I agree is no excuse, as Tee stood up for him over everyone last week, even though she's much younger.) But at least on that occasion he had some kind of reason. This week he just seemed unkind for the sake of it. Probably because of last week, but that was unclear.
I think there was an episode in series 2 where Tee got fostered and she was told not to speak to Johnny etc, I think they did explore their storyline in a way in that episode and a few others.

It's interesting as the actress who plays Tee is practically the same age as the actress who plays Johnny, only a few months apart but Tee on the whole would come across as the mature one or even more so mature than Johnny.

Regarding Johnny being unkind, maybe someone had irritated him prior or he just felt like being mean - there are a load of people who do that.
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Old 11-01-2013, 20:34
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I think there was an episode in series 2 where Tee got fostered and she was told not to speak to Johnny.
Actually, Tee wasn't told. Mr Watson called Johnny and told him to cut down on the phone calls to Tee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM87hhnjqMo
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Old 11-01-2013, 20:35
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Missed it again dozed of to sleep
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Old 11-01-2013, 20:36
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Missed it again dozed of to sleep
You know what to do...click the link!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/cbbc/ep...g_Ground_Baby/
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Old 11-01-2013, 21:03
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Thanks ringo
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Old 11-01-2013, 21:14
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wow lily is always moody
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Old 11-01-2013, 21:16
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It's interesting as the actress who plays Tee is practically the same age as the actress who plays Johnny, only a few months apart but Tee on the whole would come across as the mature one or even more so mature than Johnny.
Apart from on one occasion... SHEEP!
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Old 11-01-2013, 21:18
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wow lily is always moody
She's not always moody, just someone who's not quite afraid of speaking out most of the time. She only seems to become moody when she doesn't quite get her own way, which is understandable being a teenager.
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Old 11-01-2013, 21:21
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just when i felt sorry for jodie
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Old 11-01-2013, 21:45
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just when i felt sorry for jodie
Well...Johnny had it coming.
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Old 11-01-2013, 22:53
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Electra's rainbow badge. Another hint? Will they have the courage?

Good ep.
Since series 2, I've been thinking that Elektra was a homosexual... I had a conversation about it with my brother, saying that she's a lesbian (he's the one who actually told me that she has a rainbow flag in her room), and I'm just waiting for the writers to admit that she is one. Another reason being in 3.07 when she didn't want to go shopping with Justine (maybe I've already said this so many times) it seemed like she didn't really like girly things. But one word I'm thinking is: lesbian. I hope that she is a lesbian, because since I was 16 (?) I've been thinking of making this fanfiction where Elektra has a gay lover who moves in her room as she struggles against everyone else's opinions... But on the other hand, if The Dumping Ground admits that Elektra's a lesbian, then it's gonna kinda clash with the fanfic I wanted to make, and then I'm not gonna be bothered to write it (and I had so many good ideas for this). I've NEVER written a serious lesbian story, the only one's are either parody, humour, or just in burn books.

Apart from that, if Elektra's not queer, then Jessica Revell must be, just a few months ago in Twitter she tweeted something that striked to me something about her sexuality. I didn't really question it at all.


Well...Johnny had it coming.
I don't think he did. How would you feel if someone took all your money and food, humiliated you and put you into solitary confinement. Yes, I agree he was acting a bit different in this episode (especially the snot comment he made), but that's just mean. I didn't really like him in series 1, but in Series 2 and 3, yeah. I kinda had this feeling when I was 16 that he hated me... but he's just a character, I got the assumption after a dream that I had.


On a whole other scale, I just wanted to know why I didn't get an email saying that others had replied to this thread... I mean seriously, I subscribed to it, is it only a set time that they let you subscribe to it until it wears off? I actually thought that no one was commenting back. It just reminds me of a stupid rule in Facebook where I don't get notifications when someone has replied to a comment that I wrote in a group page... So annoying.

By the way, I found out something last night. James Bartlett is NOT going to play Kingsley in next week's episode S.O.S. I asked him and he wrote "nope! But not far off! " So I know I was coming closer to finding out. But after that, I just didn't know. It was quite fun, like a game, guessing who someone is before the episode's aired...

By the way, James Bartlett is younger than Ciaran Joyce (Lol) and older than Montanna Thompson (Justine). By the way, Montanna is awesome.
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Old 11-01-2013, 23:05
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Since series 2, I've been thinking that Elektra was a homosexual... I had a conversation about it with my brother, saying that she's a lesbian (he's the one who actually told me that she has a rainbow flag in her room), and I'm just waiting for the writers to admit that she is one. Another reason being in 3.07 when she didn't want to go shopping with Justine (maybe I've already said this so many times) it seemed like she didn't really like girly things. But one word I'm thinking is: lesbian. I hope that she is a lesbian, because since I was 16 (?) I've been thinking of making this fanfiction where Elektra has a gay lover who moves in her room as she struggles against everyone else's opinions... But on the other hand, if The Dumping Ground admits that Elektra's a lesbian, then it's gonna kinda clash with the fanfic I wanted to make, and then I'm not gonna be bothered to write it (and I had so many good ideas for this). I've NEVER written a serious lesbian story, the only one's are either parody, humour, or just in burn books.

Apart from that, if Elektra's not queer, then Jessica Revell must be, just a few months ago in Twitter she tweeted something that striked to me something about her sexuality. I didn't really question it at all.
I thought that about Elektra as well. I thought it might be explored in that episode last series with her family in it. I think sexuality is a very fluid thing, people go one way and the other unpredictably. There are many occasions where people fall for people who aren't the gender they normally go for etc.

I think a fanfic about Elektra having a female lover would be really interesting actually.
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Old 12-01-2013, 00:06
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I don't think he did. How would you feel if someone took all your money and food, humiliated you and put you into solitary confinement. Yes, I agree he was acting a bit different in this episode (especially the snot comment he made), but that's just mean. I didn't really like him in series 1, but in Series 2 and 3, yeah. I kinda had this feeling when I was 16 that he hated me... but he's just a character, I got the assumption after a dream that I had.
I knew he had it coming after Tyler went after Jody but at least the prank didn't totally get out of hand plus they sorted it out at the end which was good. I just wish they made it more clear so we could know if Johnny was still angry with that happening because it seemed a bit odd to me but at least they've made up for now.


By the way, I found out something last night. James Bartlett is NOT going to play Kingsley in next week's episode S.O.S. I asked him and he wrote "nope! But not far off! " So I know I was coming closer to finding out. But after that, I just didn't know. It was quite fun, like a game, guessing who someone is before the episode's aired...
I didn't actually know that he was appearing until I saw his tweet on Kia's twitter account. (She retweeted his tweet)

https://twitter.com/JamesBartlett01/...69713301598209



By the way, James Bartlett is younger than Ciaran Joyce (Lol) and older than Montanna Thompson (Justine). By the way, Montanna is awesome.
I think Montanna did a great job as Justine. For me, I think Justine was more likeable in some episodes of series 3 and the whole of Series 5.
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Old 12-01-2013, 00:21
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I think Montanna did a great job as Justine. For me, I think Justine was more likeable in some episodes of series 3 and the whole of Series 5.

I never hated Justine... at least, not until TBR where she seemed to be the instigator of Tracy's hate...

Don't get me wrong I liked that episode, just not that they hated each other years after.


I don't know if anyone's gonna agree, but there should have been more episodes where Tracy and Justine were friends (thought there are various occasions where they are, without realising it)
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Old 12-01-2013, 00:32
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I never hated Justine... at least, not until TBR where she seemed to be the instigator of Tracy's hate...

Don't get me wrong I liked that episode, just not that they hated each other years after.


I don't know if anyone's gonna agree, but there should have been more episodes where Tracy and Justine were friends (thought there are various occasions where they are, without realising it)
I'm sure there have been. But then, that's how it is with kids. Friends one minute, enemies the next.

I hated the episode when she came back, she and Tracy behaved completely out of character, and it seemed the whole point of the episode was to go, 'Oh look! Justine Littlewood's back!' with no other creative motive at all.
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Old 12-01-2013, 00:58
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I quite like the episodes I've seen so far. (The one focused on Jody and the episode based around the new baby in Lilys family) I've been watching them on iplayer.
Has there been 3 episodes broadcast or 2 episodes? Cus on the iplayer it looks like they've missed out episode 2 (if there is one) ? Bit confused here
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Old 12-01-2013, 01:54
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I quite like the episodes I've seen so far. (The one focused on Jody and the episode based around the new baby in Lilys family) I've been watching them on iplayer.
Has there been 3 episodes broadcast or 2 episodes? Cus on the iplayer it looks like they've missed out episode 2 (if there is one) ? Bit confused here
Basically, Episode 1 was the first two episodes combined, which is why it was longer. So this week's was Episode 3.

I'd recommend watching Episodes 1 and 2 separately when they broadcast them though, normally they skip out a few scenes so there'll be enough time to broadcast them both.
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Old 12-01-2013, 03:17
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I never hated Justine... at least, not until TBR where she seemed to be the instigator of Tracy's hate...

Don't get me wrong I liked that episode, just not that they hated each other years after.


I don't know if anyone's gonna agree, but there should have been more episodes where Tracy and Justine were friends (thought there are various occasions where they are, without realising it)
I'm sure there have been. But then, that's how it is with kids. Friends one minute, enemies the next.

I hated the episode when she came back, she and Tracy behaved completely out of character, and it seemed the whole point of the episode was to go, 'Oh look! Justine Littlewood's back!' with no other creative motive at all.
I also thought they would have moved on. Didn't they hug at the end of series 3 and resolve their problems? There were also quite a few episodes from series 1 and 3 where Justine and Tracy gotalong but like you said they probably didn't realise it at times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP5acSA1iRs

In series 5, they didn't argue with each other (Rebbeca however did with Justine), Tracy and Justine only had small banter in one episode. Although one could argue that Tracy was absent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ty30flArs

I suppose if you looked at it the other way. Justine took Louise away from Tracy, leaving her lonely until series 3 where Crash and Jackie arrived. Justine kept going on about her father, when nobody else there had parents and she always mocked Tracy because her mother never came to get her (until the Movie). They did get along later on but I'm guessing it still hurt Tracy to go through that and also to hear Justine mocking her again, in front of the kids. I guess Justine still made Tracy feel small but hopefully not anymore.
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Old 12-01-2013, 09:48
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I suppose if you looked at it the other way. Justine took Louise away from Tracy, leaving her lonely until series 3 where Crash and Jackie arrived. Justine kept going on about her father, when nobody else there had parents and she always mocked Tracy because her mother never came to get her (until the Movie). They did get along later on but I'm guessing it still hurt Tracy to go through that and also to hear Justine mocking her again, in front of the kids. I guess Justine still made Tracy feel small but hopefully not anymore.
"Justine took Louise away from Tracy' - LOL it sounds as they they were lesbians, and Tracy was angry that a new girl took her girlfriend from her and they're gonna have constant b!tch fights.

I've seen this video on Youtube about Justine and Tracy, it's quite original and well put out, with Tracy's fights with Justine and hug... it's quite funny too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj7kukpzp0Q
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