[Everything Goes]

50.2% of PCs are running Windows 7. It overtook XP in the Autumn of 2011.

Meanwhile Windows 8 will be out this Autumn and has all the hallmarks of being a huge failure like Vista

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/02/s...dows-7-top-OS/

[whoever,hey]

Yeah, of course it does.

[Everything Goes]

Originally Posted by whoever,hey

Yeah, of course it does.

One word Metro

Suitable for Touchscreens not suitable for Desktops. The will learn the hard way and have an off switch come SP1 with any luck!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85E16O20120615

[whoever,hey]

An off switch? You do realise you dont have to buy windows 8?

[fracal]

Vista.... failure!! when did it fail?
3 machines here on vista and never failed....

[Everything Goes]

Originally Posted by whoever,hey

An off switch? You do realise you dont have to buy windows 8?

A option to switch off Metro if you don't like it. Hope that explains it in a way you will understand.

Here I was running running Google Android 4.0 thinking I had to upgrade to Windows 8. I'm glad you cleared that up for me

[cnbcwatcher]

Originally Posted by fracal

Vista.... failure!! when did it fail?
3 machines here on vista and never failed....

Everyone I know who uses Vista hates it. I also know someone running a computer repair store and he told me they've had more people coming in about problems with Vista than any other version of Windows. It's banned in our house. The computer setup in our house currently consists of one Mac , 2 Windows 7 laptops, a Windows XP desktop from 2003, an XP laptop from 2004 with a broken screen, another XP laptop from the same year about to be used as a Linux box (my old one), an iPad and an old Windows 2000 box. There's also a 1987 DOS laptop lying around somewhere which no longer works but is kept purely for nostalgia reasons

[whoever,hey]

Originally Posted by cnbcwatcher

Everyone I know who uses Vista hates it. I also know someone running a computer repair store and he told me they've had more people coming in about problems with Vista than any other version of Windows. It's banned in our house. The computer setup in our house currently consists of one Mac , 2 Windows 7 laptops, a Windows XP desktop from 2003, an XP laptop from 2004 with a broken screen, another XP laptop from the same year about to be used as a Linux box (my old one), an iPad and an old Windows 2000 box. There's also a 1987 DOS laptop lying around somewhere which no longer works but is kept purely for nostalgia reasons

Wow you have quite a collection there I dont think you've listed them before.

[d'@ve]

Well last month I finally installed Windows 7 (Ultimate, 64 bit) having resisted for as long as I could. But for processor intensive video work, my beloved Windows XP simply isn't anywhere near as fast as Win 7 64 bit with extra memory (70% difference on 64 bit programs!) so I am now running a dual boot system and am slowly migrating programs over to Windows 7. I have always kept my data off drive C: so it's easy to share it between the two O/Ss

Migrating Outlook has been the hardest to do, so far but overall I am pleased with how it's going and I have absolutely no intention of moving to Windows 8 for many years and probably never.

I reckon my 2 year old Athlon 964 quad core stystem will be good for years to come, perhaps until Windows 10 comes along... may eventually need a better cooler though to overclock it.

[cnbcwatcher]

Originally Posted by whoever,hey

Wow you have quite a collection there I dont think you've listed them before.

Oh I do! Bit like a branch of PC World in our house I have mentioned the Mac though

[whoever,hey]

Originally Posted by cnbcwatcher

Oh I do! Bit like a branch of PC World in our house I have mentioned the Mac though

Even PC World has a lonely Mac No linux though, they wouldn't have a clue!

[cnbcwatcher]

Originally Posted by whoever,hey

Even PC World has a lonely Mac No linux though, they wouldn't have a clue!

I'm sure they do. My local one has an iMac, a lonely 11" Macbook Air (I feel sorry for it ) and a couple of Macbook Pros on display. They wouldn't know what Linux was if it hit them in the face Actually I should go in there and ask them if they know anything about it.

[fracal]

Originally Posted by cnbcwatcher

Everyone I know who uses Vista hates it. I also know someone running a computer repair store and he told me they've had more people coming in about problems with Vista than any other version of Windows.

Those people are probably not very good at 'vista' housekeeping

[noise747]

No one knows how windows 8 will do, it is not for me i have tried it and can't get on with the metro start screen, and as of yet I have not heard anyone apart from people on here that have any thing nice to say about windows 8, most of these people have used it, I myself for over a week as my main OS.

If people are forced into windows 8 when they buy a new computer then it will do well, but if people have the down grade option then it may not.

i am pretty sure that stores and shopping channels will push it onto people, just like they did with Windows 7.

Vista was a bit hit and miss, if you had the hardware to run it then it was fine, but the main problem was incompatibility, which by the time Windows 7 came out most was solved. The problem I had with vista was defender, a pain in the neck and if you disabled it, things got worse.


Once I paid for internet install and other stuff, I am going to save up and go for a Apple Mac.

[noise747]

Originally Posted by cnbcwatcher

I'm sure they do. My local one has an iMac, a lonely 11" Macbook Air (I feel sorry for it ) and a couple of Macbook Pros on display. They wouldn't know what Linux was if it hit them in the face Actually I should go in there and ask them if they know anything about it.

There used to be one girl in our PC world and I used to have a good chat with her and she knew about Linux, she was the only one in there that new anything about the machines they was selling.

since the store changed to a combined PCworld and currys I have not seen her, maybe she seen sense and gone else where or maybe the others did not like being shown up.

[Maxatoria]

Vista's downfall was they completely changed the driver model so people with older kit couldn't get the required drivers to move onto the new platform and since it was more than a few lines change to support the new vista driver model alot of companies just didn't bother upgrading them for stuff no longer on sale so people stayed with what they had

[Alan F]

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

50.2% of PCs are running Windows 7. It overtook XP in the Autumn of 2011.

Note that this statistic is based on hits on websites.

I would suggest that this reflects that the majority of web surfing is done by home users who will naturally tend to use newer PCs and thus more likely to have Windows 7.

The many millions of PCs in industry and commerce still running Win XP, or older, will be under-represented in these numbers as they spend less time web surfing.

[alanwarwic]

Originally Posted by noise747

No one knows how windows 8 will do.

At £30.50 a pop to upgrade it is quite easy to guess.
(includes VAT, at current exchange rates)

Many people upgrade blindly, even without improvement.

[soulboy77]

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

..Meanwhile Windows 8 will be out this Autumn and has all the hallmarks of being a huge failure like Vista

Windows 7 is really Vista II given a new marketing name.

[zx50]

I certainly won't be getting Windows 8 this Autumn, I've not long had Windows 7 and this laptop. I'll wait a year and a half before getting Windows 8.

[cnbcwatcher]

Originally Posted by soulboy77

Windows 7 is really Vista II given a new marketing name.

How? W7 seems to be better than Vista from what I've heard. My dad reckons Windows 7 is what Vista should have been. He's happily been using W7 for two years.

Originally Posted by fracal

Those people are probably not very good at 'vista' housekeeping

I don't know, but they hate it and I'm sure they would need a Vista exorcist to get rid of it for them

Originally Posted by noise747

There used to be one girl in our PC world and I used to have a good chat with her and she knew about Linux, she was the only one in there that new anything about the machines they was selling.

since the store changed to a combined PCworld and currys I have not seen her, maybe she seen sense and gone else where or maybe the others did not like being shown up.

That makes a change. Any PC World staff I've come across are clueless but maybe there's the odd one who knows more about the computers than what's written on the spec sheet.

[LostFool]

Originally Posted by fracal

Vista.... failure!! when did it fail?
3 machines here on vista and never failed....

Vista was a technical and commercial failure and, in my opinion, the worst release of Windows since ME.

I must be responsible for about 100 installations of Windows. Apart from a handful of virtual machines kept for testing purposes there aren't any which run Vista. There are still a handful running XP for legacy reasons but almost all of the desktops and laptops are running Windows 7 - even some 6 year boxes cope well with it.

I'm sure Windows 8 will do well on tablets but I don't know anyone who is planning to deploy it on the desktop.

[peter3hg]

Vista was a good operating system after SP1. Unfortunately its reputation was too badly damaged at that point. W7 is much better though.

[KIIS102]

I'll wait for Windows 9. Can't be bothered to go from Windows7 to Windows Vista 2.0

[Everything Goes]

Originally Posted by cnbcwatcher

How? W7 seems to be better than Vista from what I've heard. My dad reckons Windows 7 is what Vista should have been. He's happily been using W7 for two years.



I don't know, but they hate it and I'm sure they would need a Vista exorcist to get rid of it for them



That makes a change. Any PC World staff I've come across are clueless but maybe there's the odd one who knows more about the computers than what's written on the spec sheet.

Windows 7 really is what Vista should have been. Microsoft took a few years to fix Vista's numerous shortcomings through Service Packs. Windows 7 is really a close relative of Vista and Microsoft learned some hard lessons.

You can look on Windows 8 as brave or foolish. I guess time will tell......