[polkadotpaper]

Hey all, I read a news article about some Israel company (it’s only suspicion though) stole Korea’s AMOLED and White OLED technology? Do you think it will affect current TV market? I feel sorry for the stolen technology but as a potential consumer, I’m kind of hoping that the OLED price will go down so they can be more purchasable. What do you guys think?

[jacksonpive]

What? AMOLED and W-OLED tech leaked? I bet those industrial spies got paid more than God for those. I don’t think this will lower the current OLED price though because it will still take some time for the stealers to make proper ones.

[polkadotpaper]

Here’s the link of the news I found http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/35...tech-china.htm This is such a shame, Samsung and LG have been competing each other since forever, but both of the company’s secret seems to be stolen. Now we keep our eyes open to see which company release new LOED product, and only then everyone will know who the stealer is. LOL

[Ulysses777]

Or it'll be the capacitor plague all over again...

[call100]

Doubt I would buy anything Israeli.......So I'd wait for an established manufacturer before purchasing...

[terryfc81]

LG will do a great job retrieving or counteracting. It may let them on a setback but all great company can handle the heat. I can’t wait for OLED TV to come out. I would rather buy a tv from a great renowned brand than a cheap one from a terrible brand.

[polkadotpaper]

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news...17_113978.html Here’s more detailed news about it. The industrial spy delivered the tech to Orbotech’s Israel headquarters and branches in China and Taiwan.

[terryfc81]

Thanks for the great news. It sounds great that the prosecutors are being investigated thoroughly, I hope for the maximum penalty for what they have done. 10 trillion won damage sounds crazy I hope nothing will ruin LG or Samsung.

[schilltastic41]

Well you can't call it a leak, because no matter what company, they are going to get their hands on the OLED technology. However, with high-end technology such as OLED, it is very important that the company knows how to produce quality OLED technology. LG has always done a great job with product reliability as well as product quality. Even if some other company gets OLED technology, I don't think they can produce quality OLED products like LG can.

[Chris Frost]

Originally Posted by terryfc81

LG will do a great job... I would rather buy a tv from a great renowned brand than a cheap one from a terrible brand.

Originally Posted by schilltastic41

LG has always done a great job with product reliability as well as product quality. Even if some other company gets OLED technology, I don't think they can produce quality OLED products like LG can.

[splutters in to his coffee as he reads the above]

So this is a different LG. An LG that actually makes reliable TVs is it? An LG that doesn't have TVs with weak X-Sus and Y-Sus boards. An LG that doesn't have inverters failing just outside of warranty. An LG that isn't plagued with bad caps and horrendous spares prices

And as for the first article

The television industry is one of the most competitive with the traditionally high-profile brands like Sony, LG, Samsung and Panasonic, coming under threat from cut-price manufacturers mostly based in China.

Because of course LG and Samsung never came to market undercutting the established brands, did they. ANd neither have they continued the relentless downward pressure on prices at the expense of quality. Oh no no no.

Do me a favour. LG and Samsung getting a shafting from cheaper Chinese goods. Let's see how they like it for once. What goes around comes around. The Koreans are getting a dose of their own medicine. Good.

[Mike_1101]

Originally Posted by alan1302

they were in Europe as well until around 10-15 years ago - the Chinese are playing catchup at the moment...but if everyone rests on their laurels then there will only be Chinese cars to buy.

I doubt it somehow, there is a motorcycle shop near me with a sign in the window saying they do not sell or service chinese motorcycles or mopeds. I was talking to a member of their staff outside the shop, he told me the quality of these products is a joke.

[Nefrati]

Originally Posted by Chris Frost

[splutters in to his coffee as he reads the above]

So this is a different LG. An LG that actually makes reliable TVs is it? An LG that doesn't have TVs with weak X-Sus and Y-Sus boards. An LG that doesn't have inverters failing just outside of warranty. An LG that isn't plagued with bad caps and horrendous spares prices

And as for the first article

Because of course LG and Samsung never came to market undercutting the established brands, did they. ANd neither have they continued the relentless downward pressure on prices at the expense of quality. Oh no no no.

Do me a favour. LG and Samsung getting a shafting from cheaper Chinese goods. Let's see how they like it for once. What goes around comes around. The Koreans are getting a dose of their own medicine. Good.

and before that the industry was in the west...long ago.

[Mr. Cool]

Wait for them to be in Vestels.

Your local Argos will be selling Bush TVs with knock-off OLED Panels

[alan1302]

Originally Posted by Mike_1101

I doubt it somehow, there is a motorcycle shop near me with a sign in the window saying they do not sell or service chinese motorcycles or mopeds. I was talking to a member of their staff outside the shop, he told me the quality of these products is a joke.

Yeah, that's what they said about Japanese ones

[schilltastic41]

Originally Posted by Chris Frost

[splutters in to his coffee as he reads the above]

So this is a different LG. An LG that actually makes reliable TVs is it? An LG that doesn't have TVs with weak X-Sus and Y-Sus boards. An LG that doesn't have inverters failing just outside of warranty. An LG that isn't plagued with bad caps and horrendous spares prices

And as for the first article

Because of course LG and Samsung never came to market undercutting the established brands, did they. ANd neither have they continued the relentless downward pressure on prices at the expense of quality. Oh no no no.

Do me a favour. LG and Samsung getting a shafting from cheaper Chinese goods. Let's see how they like it for once. What goes around comes around. The Koreans are getting a dose of their own medicine. Good.

You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. It is not shafting. It is only shafting if products are cheap and cheaply made, which a lot of Chinese consumer goods are like. They are cheaply made and therefore cheaply priced. That is why most of the world have doubts about products that say "MADE IN CHINA." However big brands like Sony, Apple, Samsung, LG, Panasonic, etc. have their products made from China for their cheap labor, but are not shafted by close monitoring. However, products that are Chinese made and Chinese produced do not have that close moderation and their main motive is to come up with cheap prices (NOT QUALITY).

[Chris Frost]

Originally Posted by schilltastic41

You have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

Oh, really? I don't know what your problem is but I'll give you a few home truths to digest...

"It is not shafting."

So you really don't believe that LG (and Samsung) got to be in the dominant market positions by a policy of ultra aggressive pricing, and now that the technology the company has invested millions or possibly billions developing has been stolen that whoever has it won't use it to turn the tables on LG and play them at their own game?; a race to the bottom of the pricing scale. Wake up and smell the coffee.

"They are cheaply made and therefore cheaply priced."

Sorry, but you got that the wrong way round. All commercially aware volume electronics manufacturers plan their price points first, then set about the design and manufacturing process. Their goal is to set a yield and profit scale across the life of the product to maximise their returns. You're being very naive to believe it's anything other than this.

"That is why most of the world have doubts about products that say 'MADE IN CHINA.' "

Well it doesn't seem to stop the world buying Chinese made product by the bucket load, now does it?

Open your eyes and read many of the supermarket AV posts here and elsewhere. In the UK and many other countries 'cheap' wins, pure and simple. At the point of purchase people don't give a toss about quality if the price difference is big enough. It's only later when they realise that the product is shoddy, or performs poorly or doesn't last that suddenly they become all concerned about quality.

"However big brands like Sony, Apple, Samsung, LG, Panasonic, etc. have their products made from China for their cheap labor, but are not shafted by close monitoring."

Two points here. First, the "close monitoring" comment. This is a discussion about industrial espionage. It's about the theft of technology to short-cut years of R&D and allow a competitor to fast track their product to market; perhaps even to become a dominant brand. That's a very different discussion from what happens inside the factories working for one or other of the major brands. Do you not see the difference and how your point has no relevance in this discussion?

Second, labour costs are actually a small element in the final product cost. Other aspects are of equal- and in some cases far more significant importance. Apple is in China because of the speed at which those Chinese factories can react to changes needed in product design.

[terryfc81]

I’m guessing you hate LG and Samsung. Dude you need to chill out, we were only talking about the OLED getting leaked. We don’t need anybody bringing the negative vibe here.