[RadioKnower]

Slightly left of field suggestion here. And I suspect I'll get called an idiot and told I don't understand what I'm talking about for suggesting it.

Heart and Capital as brands could both work as music channels on TV.

They could just turn the radio station into a TV channel, if they get music videos to work with their edits of the songs. This is what Radio 1 are doing of course for the chart show.

Lots of places like pubs and hairdressers just stick music channels on these days instead of radios, this could be a way to keep those listeners.

[James Martin 2]

If you mean in the vein of the Bauer channels, then yeah - why not?

[RadioKnower]

Originally Posted by James Martin 2

If you mean in the vein of the Bauer channels, then yeah - why not?

Yes, I suspect straight forward music channels are more likely than the Radio 1 chart show idea.

[Mapperley Ridge]

In principle, there's no reason why this shouldn't happen. But I think the notion of editing music videos to fit the output 24/7 would require too much manpower. The resource-heavy BBC can afford to do it for a three hour chart show, but an entire channel would be too costly, in my opinion.

The Bauer TV portfolio is slightly different, in that their channels aren't carrbon copies of the radio stations. Plus, where would Global find the cash to pay for further space on the various digital TV platforms?

[Bangers]

I think it's unlikely. One of the first things that Global Radio did when it took control of GCap Media was to close down Classic FM TV!

[TelevisionUser]

Originally Posted by Mapperley Ridge

In principle, there's no reason why this shouldn't happen. But I think the notion of editing music videos to fit the output 24/7 would require too much manpower. The resource-heavy BBC can afford to do it for a three hour chart show, but an entire channel would be too costly, in my opinion.

The Bauer TV portfolio is slightly different, in that their channels aren't carrbon copies of the radio stations. Plus, where would Global find the cash to pay for further space on the various digital TV platforms?

I would agree that it's possible, Mapperley Ridge. The two main stumbling blocks would appear to be the many millions it would take to set up the channels at a time of economic recession and the competition from existing music channels although some of them are mediocre to say the least!

Heart and Capital are strong brands and I guess that Global are currently satisfied that the Heart and Capital radio stations are widely available across a wide variety of media, e.g. FM, DAB, Freeview, satellite, etc.

[djgeeza]

It would be good to see TV coverage of the Summertime and Jingle Bell Balls.

[Hitmusic]

Already been looked into. Too expensive to run and not much profit to be had running a music channel.

[TelevisionUser]

Originally Posted by Hitmusic

Already been looked into. Too expensive to run and not much profit to be had running a music channel.

4Music, Viva and MTV all get respectable BARB ratings (the first two are free to air on Freeview) so it's theoretically possible that any Heart and Capital channels might do well too. However, the economic conditions aren't good at the moment and even though Ashley's loaded, I'm not sure that he'd try this right now.

[radiodad]

Originally Posted by TelevisionUser

4Music, Viva and MTV all get respectable BARB ratings (the first two are free to air on Freeview) so it's theoretically possible that any Heart and Capital channels might do well too. However, the economic conditions aren't good at the moment and even though Ashley's loaded, I'm not sure that he'd try this right now.

Is Ashley loaded ? His Dad may be but as far as I'm aware Ashley's company is in the red.

[RadioKnower]

It might be more possible for an under performing operator to licence the brands. But I guess Global wouldn't want any damage done to them.

[Bangers]

Originally Posted by TelevisionUser

4Music, Viva and MTV all get respectable BARB ratings (the first two are free to air on Freeview) so it's theoretically possible that any Heart and Capital channels might do well too. However, the economic conditions aren't good at the moment and even though Ashley's loaded, I'm not sure that he'd try this right now.

The viewers that make up the BARB figures come from non music programming on those three channels you quote.

MTV hasn't been a true music channel for a decade now. Viva and 4Music are full of 'entertainment' programmes during prime time.

I'd say there is little to be gained from back to back videos for a new entrant to the TV market.

[mfr]

Take a look at RadioVisione from RTL in Italy for a great implementation.

[Nath123]

i think heart fm tv channel wood be good one to compete with magic fm tv

[RadioKnower]

Originally Posted by Nath123

i think heart fm tv channel wood be good one to compete with magic fm tv

and that is true!

[georgemiller89]

Originally Posted by djgeeza

It would be good to see TV coverage of the Summertime and Jingle Bell Balls.

Wasn't one of the Party in the Parks on Channel 5 one year?

[omnidirectional]

Music TV is a crowded market which MTV and Bauer dominate. I don't think Global will bother launching music channels. GMG announced plans for 'Jazz FM TV' once, but that never happened either - http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/news/512828/

Originally Posted by georgemiller89

Wasn't one of the Party in the Parks on Channel 5 one year?

Yes, it was also shown on MTV/VH1 a couple of times.

[TelevisionUser]

Originally Posted by radiodad

Is Ashley loaded ? His Dad may be but as far as I'm aware Ashley's company is in the red.

LOL , yes radiodad. Ashley can always rely on a top up from Mr Tabor Snr to keep things going but that won't be necessary. All the Heart and Capital restructuring (i.e. sackings of expensive DJs and producers, etc.) will feed into a leaner and more cost effective operation so that Global could be in the black this year.

Originally Posted by Nath123

i think heart fm tv channel wood be good one to compete with magic fm tv

Yes, Nath123, that is a very valid and relevant point but I can't see Global even considering this option whilst the British economy remains a complete train wreck.

Originally Posted by omnidirectional

Music TV is a crowded market which MTV and Bauer dominate. I don't think Global will bother launching music channels. GMG announced plans for 'Jazz FM TV' once, but that never happened either - http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/news/512828/

Yes, it was also shown on MTV/VH1 a couple of times.

The popular music TV market might stand another competitor in more benign economic times but as I said above I can't see anything happening right now.

That article about GMG's plans was interesting and thanks for posting it, omnidirectional. Those proposals were on the idealistic side and I could not see any similar plans today ever being realised especially in the light of the failure of the Performance channel four years ago.

[SouthCity]

Originally Posted by TelevisionUser

LOL , yes radiodad. Ashley can always rely on a top up from Mr Tabor Snr to keep things going but that won't be necessary. All the Heart and Capital restructuring (i.e. sackings of expensive DJs and producers, etc.) will feed into a leaner and more cost effective operation so that Global could be in the black this year.

From Media Week:

Global Radio, home to Heart and Capital FM, has enjoyed a strong year of growth, and is set to report profits up "significantly" in its financial results later this year, according to group chief executive Stephen Miron.

The chief executive noted how in the last figures filed - Global's earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation had increased by 9.3% year-on-year to £50.3m (for the year to March 2011), and said profits for year to March 2012 will be "significantly ahead".

http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/news/1132...ly-says-Miron/

[trevgo]

Perhaps they could do next year's Eurovision Song Contest.

[SmartProgrammer]

It's finally been announced today that Global are branching out into TV. The first of which will be music channels for Heart and Capital.

[RikScot]

Originally Posted by SmartProgrammer

It's finally been announced today that Global are branching out into TV. The first of which will be music channels for Heart and Capital.

Hawd me back.........;-)

[FM_Bandit]

Whatever.

[Harris Tweed]

For me, radio brands have got to be the future of music TV.

Global have a ruck of listeners who might appreciate vegging in front of their fave tunes on the telly, but probably wouldn't switch 4Music on in a month of Sundays.

So far, music TV brands (with exceptions from Emap/Bauer) have mainly been standalones or tied to magazines. Surely music radio is the clear parallel? I guess national brands (now with national names) is probably the key.

[omnidirectional]

Originally Posted by omnidirectional

I don't think Global will bother launching music channels.

Looks like I might be wrong about that!

A company called "Global Music Television" which according to Companies House is based at 30 Leicester Square has got an Ofcom licence for a channel called "Ramp'd"

http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-bro...updates/062012

Perhaps that's a working title and it will launch as Capital or Heart TV, following the Bauer model of Magic/Kiss branded TV stations.

EDIT: It's been confirmed... http://radiotoday.co.uk/2012/07/glob...rt-capital-tv/