Tune In Radio - data hungry?

fat controller · 03-07-2012, 21:47

My new phone has come with the Tune In Radio app pre-installed, and to be honest it is something that I might occasionally use - however, I wondered how data hungry it would be, as if I did use it, I would be liable to for a good few hours?

Thine Wonk · 03-07-2012, 21:55

It depends on your data allowance really. I use it most days for about 40 minutes and that would use about 1 to 1.5 gigs of data a month.

wrexham103.4 · 03-07-2012, 22:58

ive only ever used it with wifi for this reason

Resonance · 04-07-2012, 00:25

It depends on the bit rate of the radio station. Many stations offer a number of streams at different bit rates. In the Tunin app you can choose the bit rate. To do this once you've searched for a station or you are in your presets swipe your finger from right to left over the station name. The choice of bit rates will then appear (providing the station offers more than one stream). The lower the bit rate you choose the less data you'll use, however lower bit rates mean lower audio quality (when using the same codec).

Here's a calculator for figuring out how much data you'll use for various bit rate streams

http://servers.internet-radio.com/tools/bandwidth/

Just to add the calculator is actually for figuring out bandwidth usage from the stations point of view. It still works fine for the listeners purposes, just make sure one listener is selected.

alanwarwic · 04-07-2012, 00:56

For 3G it is best avoided unless on real unlimited data.

If a Tunein station is a common 192K then that is 90MB per hour.
On Yourmuze you can set this downwards to anything what you want.

I have yet to see it get publicised anywhere of note, just like its predecessor Moodio..
Yet Youurmuze.fm has no big corporation backing but is data friendly and the only one really suitable for 3G.

Resonance · 04-07-2012, 01:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

For 3G it is best avoided unless on real unlimited data.

If a Tunein station is a common 192K then that is 90MB per hour.
On Yourmuze you can set this downwards to anything what you want.

I have yet to see it get publicised anywhere of note, just like its predecessor Moodio..
Yet Youurmuze.fm has no big corporation backing but is data friendly and the only one really suitable for 3G.

I've seen bit rates offered as low as 24K AAC on Tunein. As I said earlier you can choose whatever the station offers.

fat controller · 06-07-2012, 16:28

Thanks all, as I've got a 1gb limit, it looks like the iPod will continue to be my music source when out and about then

alanwarwic · 06-07-2012, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resonance

I've seen bit rates offered as low as 24K AAC on Tunein. As I said earlier you can choose whatever the station offers.

Yes, but only what's offered. There is not the certainty of the homebrew.

TheBigM · 06-07-2012, 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by fat controller

My new phone has come with the Tune In Radio app pre-installed, and to be honest it is something that I might occasionally use - however, I wondered how data hungry it would be, as if I did use it, I would be liable to for a good few hours?

What is your new phone?

JethroUK · 06-07-2012, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by fat controller

My new phone has come with the Tune In Radio app pre-installed, and to be honest it is something that I might occasionally use - however, I wondered how data hungry it would be, as if I did use it, I would be liable to for a good few hours?

Asked the same thing to the man in Carphone warehouse today - he said its not that bad because most of it is compressed

ijf · 07-07-2012, 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by fat controller

Thanks all, as I've got a 1gb limit, it looks like the iPod will continue to be my music source when out and about then

Download something like 3G Watchdog to keep check on how much data you're using.

fat controller · 07-07-2012, 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBigM

What is your new phone?

HTC One X - which I am sure will be great when Virgin finally manage to get me a micro SIM that works, and will take my phone number.

They have until Tuesday, then they will have two phones being returned.

wolfticket · 07-07-2012, 19:02

You can pick and choose streams to minimise bit rates, but talk radio seems to commonly run about 56kbps, which equates to about 25MB an hour.

For me (on 1GB per month) this means I don't worry about using it from time to time to listen to something specific for a few hours, but I have to be careful about using it regularly or leaving it on.

belfastbear51 · 07-07-2012, 19:32

I would use this app In work allot via bt open zone which you get included in your orange contract

nuttybutty · 09-07-2012, 17:33

I'm not sure if this is right but over the past few weeks I've been downloading a few hours of audio overnight using wi-fi on Tune-in and then playing it when I drive round.

It doesn't seem to be sapping the 3g limit (as far as I'm able to see) when listening to it, so is that right that it doesn't use the 3g signal?

alanwarwic · 09-07-2012, 18:14

For mono speech, 12K is about the minimum you need to choose.

It works for the cricket.

Schadenfreud · 09-07-2012, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuttybutty

I'm not sure if this is right but over the past few weeks I've been downloading a few hours of audio overnight using wi-fi on Tune-in and then playing it when I drive round.

It doesn't seem to be sapping the 3g limit (as far as I'm able to see) when listening to it, so is that right that it doesn't use the 3g signal?

No, if you're using wi-fi to download then it won't use any of your data allowance.
If you listen to a lot of radio programs, then Radio Downloader from here http://www.nerdoftheherd.com/tools/radiodld/ might be a better tool for you.

I use it quite a bit and never miss a program

douknowotimean? · 09-07-2012, 19:38

I used youmuze on the iPhone for the first time over the weekend, listening to Heart, Capital and Radio 1. Yes there is a difference in Quality but it does save battery life too which for me is pretty amazing.

owhittle · 10-07-2012, 11:26

What about using the Onavo app- found this yesterday

Mark in Essex · 10-07-2012, 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by fat controller

HTC One X - which I am sure will be great when Virgin finally manage to get me a micro SIM that works, and will take my phone number.

They have until Tuesday, then they will have two phones being returned.

There is a built in DATA monitor built into Android 4 (ICS).

Just look under settings, DATA and then you can set the dates your contract goes from on each day of the month, then a warning (say 800mb if you have a 1gb package) and then a limit to stop you downloading any more (say at 1gb or just under).

Also it shows you how much data had been used on each application over the mobile network and also you can look at the same thing for wireless connection.

It's worth setting this up as soon as somebody gets a new mobile not on an unlimited data tariff.

alanwarwic · 11-03-2015, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resonance

I've seen bit rates offered as low as 24K AAC on Tunein. As I said earlier you can choose whatever the station offers.

Yes, but I also Iook to have my small mobile allowance last the month.

Talk type radio can manage on 12K, so with the BBC ending streams can anyone suggest a way of getting the BBC red button type streams on a 12 K stream ?

I have a feeling the standard wma streams have ended so YourMuze availability has possibly ended there too.

Thine Wonk · 11-03-2015, 20:53

Old thread makes a 3 year comeback!

alanwarwic · 11-03-2015, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

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Talk type radio can manage on 12K, so with the BBC ending streams can anyone suggest a way of getting the BBC red button type streams on a 12 K stream ?
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Thine Wonk · 11-03-2015, 21:28

These are the lowest I can find http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/query.asp?feedme=BBC

Do you mean 12 k as in 12 kilobits per second? that must sound awful? don't you have the data allowance or bandwidth for anything more? Nobody will provide that in this day and age, the only way you might be able to achieve it is by receiving a 48K stream at home and then using software to create your own 12K stream which you can connect to via Tune-in's add a custom URL section.

That's the best I can think of.

alanwarwic · 11-03-2015, 21:48

12 kilobits is fine for voice. Not great but also fine too when bandwidth gets really throttled at congested times.
Its for all day background streaming.

Its sort of ironic as the BBC may be crapping on users to save costs themselves, yet stream choices surely would save them costs ?

Lets hope its not like government where 99% bad dumb IT projects allow corporates to ransack the public purse of billions.

03-07-2012, 21:47	#1
fat controller Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Slightly round the bend Posts: 12,685	Tune In Radio - data hungry? My new phone has come with the Tune In Radio app pre-installed, and to be honest it is something that I might occasionally use - however, I wondered how data hungry it would be, as if I did use it, I would be liable to for a good few hours?

03-07-2012, 21:55	#2
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,577	It depends on your data allowance really. I use it most days for about 40 minutes and that would use about 1 to 1.5 gigs of data a month.

03-07-2012, 22:58	#3
wrexham103.4 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,140	ive only ever used it with wifi for this reason

04-07-2012, 00:25	#4
Resonance Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 9,212	It depends on the bit rate of the radio station. Many stations offer a number of streams at different bit rates. In the Tunin app you can choose the bit rate. To do this once you've searched for a station or you are in your presets swipe your finger from right to left over the station name. The choice of bit rates will then appear (providing the station offers more than one stream). The lower the bit rate you choose the less data you'll use, however lower bit rates mean lower audio quality (when using the same codec). Here's a calculator for figuring out how much data you'll use for various bit rate streams http://servers.internet-radio.com/tools/bandwidth/ Just to add the calculator is actually for figuring out bandwidth usage from the stations point of view. It still works fine for the listeners purposes, just make sure one listener is selected.

04-07-2012, 00:56	#5
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	For 3G it is best avoided unless on real unlimited data. If a Tunein station is a common 192K then that is 90MB per hour. On Yourmuze you can set this downwards to anything what you want. I have yet to see it get publicised anywhere of note, just like its predecessor Moodio.. Yet Youurmuze.fm has no big corporation backing but is data friendly and the only one really suitable for 3G.

04-07-2012, 01:37	#6
Resonance Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 9,212	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic For 3G it is best avoided unless on real unlimited data. If a Tunein station is a common 192K then that is 90MB per hour. On Yourmuze you can set this downwards to anything what you want. I have yet to see it get publicised anywhere of note, just like its predecessor Moodio.. Yet Youurmuze.fm has no big corporation backing but is data friendly and the only one really suitable for 3G. I've seen bit rates offered as low as 24K AAC on Tunein. As I said earlier you can choose whatever the station offers.

06-07-2012, 16:28	#7
fat controller Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Slightly round the bend Posts: 12,685	Thanks all, as I've got a 1gb limit, it looks like the iPod will continue to be my music source when out and about then

06-07-2012, 16:59	#8
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by Resonance I've seen bit rates offered as low as 24K AAC on Tunein. As I said earlier you can choose whatever the station offers. Yes, but only what's offered. There is not the certainty of the homebrew.

06-07-2012, 19:07	#9
TheBigM Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: moon Posts: 12,983	Quote: Originally Posted by fat controller My new phone has come with the Tune In Radio app pre-installed, and to be honest it is something that I might occasionally use - however, I wondered how data hungry it would be, as if I did use it, I would be liable to for a good few hours? What is your new phone?

06-07-2012, 20:05	#10
JethroUK Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Loughboro', Leicester (ex NTL) Posts: 5,953	Quote: Originally Posted by fat controller My new phone has come with the Tune In Radio app pre-installed, and to be honest it is something that I might occasionally use - however, I wondered how data hungry it would be, as if I did use it, I would be liable to for a good few hours? Asked the same thing to the man in Carphone warehouse today - he said its not that bad because most of it is compressed

07-07-2012, 15:15	#11
ijf Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 5	Quote: Originally Posted by fat controller Thanks all, as I've got a 1gb limit, it looks like the iPod will continue to be my music source when out and about then Download something like 3G Watchdog to keep check on how much data you're using.

07-07-2012, 18:39	#12
fat controller Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Slightly round the bend Posts: 12,685	Quote: Originally Posted by TheBigM What is your new phone? HTC One X - which I am sure will be great when Virgin finally manage to get me a micro SIM that works, and will take my phone number. They have until Tuesday, then they will have two phones being returned.

07-07-2012, 19:02	#13
wolfticket Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 841	You can pick and choose streams to minimise bit rates, but talk radio seems to commonly run about 56kbps, which equates to about 25MB an hour. For me (on 1GB per month) this means I don't worry about using it from time to time to listen to something specific for a few hours, but I have to be careful about using it regularly or leaving it on.

07-07-2012, 19:32	#14
belfastbear51 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 222	I would use this app In work allot via bt open zone which you get included in your orange contract

09-07-2012, 17:33	#15
nuttybutty Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Preston Posts: 666	I'm not sure if this is right but over the past few weeks I've been downloading a few hours of audio overnight using wi-fi on Tune-in and then playing it when I drive round. It doesn't seem to be sapping the 3g limit (as far as I'm able to see) when listening to it, so is that right that it doesn't use the 3g signal?

09-07-2012, 18:14	#16
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	For mono speech, 12K is about the minimum you need to choose. It works for the cricket.

09-07-2012, 18:59	#17
Schadenfreud Guest Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,291	Quote: Originally Posted by nuttybutty I'm not sure if this is right but over the past few weeks I've been downloading a few hours of audio overnight using wi-fi on Tune-in and then playing it when I drive round. It doesn't seem to be sapping the 3g limit (as far as I'm able to see) when listening to it, so is that right that it doesn't use the 3g signal? No, if you're using wi-fi to download then it won't use any of your data allowance. If you listen to a lot of radio programs, then Radio Downloader from here http://www.nerdoftheherd.com/tools/radiodld/ might be a better tool for you. I use it quite a bit and never miss a program

09-07-2012, 19:38	#18
douknowotimean? Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Old South Wales :( Posts: 1,755	I used youmuze on the iPhone for the first time over the weekend, listening to Heart, Capital and Radio 1. Yes there is a difference in Quality but it does save battery life too which for me is pretty amazing.

10-07-2012, 11:26	#19
owhittle Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 7	What about using the Onavo app- found this yesterday

10-07-2012, 11:35	#20
Mark in Essex Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,644	Quote: Originally Posted by fat controller HTC One X - which I am sure will be great when Virgin finally manage to get me a micro SIM that works, and will take my phone number. They have until Tuesday, then they will have two phones being returned. There is a built in DATA monitor built into Android 4 (ICS). Just look under settings, DATA and then you can set the dates your contract goes from on each day of the month, then a warning (say 800mb if you have a 1gb package) and then a limit to stop you downloading any more (say at 1gb or just under). Also it shows you how much data had been used on each application over the mobile network and also you can look at the same thing for wireless connection. It's worth setting this up as soon as somebody gets a new mobile not on an unlimited data tariff.

11-03-2015, 20:46	#21
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by Resonance I've seen bit rates offered as low as 24K AAC on Tunein. As I said earlier you can choose whatever the station offers. Yes, but I also Iook to have my small mobile allowance last the month. Talk type radio can manage on 12K, so with the BBC ending streams can anyone suggest a way of getting the BBC red button type streams on a 12 K stream ? I have a feeling the standard wma streams have ended so YourMuze availability has possibly ended there too.

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alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic .. Talk type radio can manage on 12K, so with the BBC ending streams can anyone suggest a way of getting the BBC red button type streams on a 12 K stream ? ... .....

11-03-2015, 21:28	#24
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,577	These are the lowest I can find http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/query.asp?feedme=BBC Do you mean 12 k as in 12 kilobits per second? that must sound awful? don't you have the data allowance or bandwidth for anything more? Nobody will provide that in this day and age, the only way you might be able to achieve it is by receiving a 48K stream at home and then using software to create your own 12K stream which you can connect to via Tune-in's add a custom URL section. That's the best I can think of.

11-03-2015, 21:48	#25
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	12 kilobits is fine for voice. Not great but also fine too when bandwidth gets really throttled at congested times. Its for all day background streaming. Its sort of ironic as the BBC may be crapping on users to save costs themselves, yet stream choices surely would save them costs ? Lets hope its not like government where 99% bad dumb IT projects allow corporates to ransack the public purse of billions.