[Mr. Brightside]

Just started rewatching SGU, first time round i wasnt that keen on it, but this time, i'm actually enjoying it, had it been made today and not 2 years ago i think it could of survived, severe lack of good sci-fi on telly at the moment

[koantemplation]

Originally Posted by Mr. Brightside

Just started rewatching SGU, first time round i wasnt that keen on it, but this time, i'm actually enjoying it, had it been made today and not 2 years ago i think it could of survived, severe lack of good sci-fi on telly at the moment

I've just been rewatching it too, am on S02E03.

I think it was underrated at them time, although the first half of season one didn't help with too many survival stories.

I wanted the story to advance more about what Destiny was about and for them to find more society's and secrets about the universe and be more philosophical.

[Mr. Brightside]

Originally Posted by koantemplation

I've just been rewatching it too, am on S02E03.

I think it was underrated at them time, although the first half of season one didn't help with too many survival stories.

I wanted the story to advance more about what Destiny was about and for them to find more society's and secrets about the universe and be more philosophical.

Im just upto S01E08, the 'earth' bits annoy me slightly just doesnt flow sometimes, when they're on the ship and 'exploring' the series comes into its own and had so much potential, i agree on it being underrated at the time, i think its because it followed SG1 and SGA so closely it didn't stand a chance with it being so 'different', kinda like the 'star trek' effect

[koantemplation]

Originally Posted by Mr. Brightside

Im just upto S01E08, the 'earth' bits annoy me slightly just doesnt flow sometimes, when they're on the ship and 'exploring' the series comes into its own and had so much potential, i agree on it being underrated at the time, i think its because it followed SG1 and SGA so closely it didn't stand a chance with it being so 'different', kinda like the 'star trek' effect

I definitely think they shouldn't have had the stones in it.

That was the studio being afraid to have a series not tied to earth, especially if it meant not having the SG1 team in the show.

I feel it should have been more like ST: Voyager, (not in style) but in that they were really stranded on the other side of the universe and not only trying to get back home but actually exploring the universe because they could.

It annoyed me that there were actually characters that wanted to get home.

I mean you have this great opportunity to explore not only an ancient space craft, but the other side of the universe, and all you can worry about is getting home.

[farscape]

I enjoyed the show while it was on and thought it got a lot of unfair criticism for what it was trying to do.

Not that the show didn't have it's share of problems. If I was going to criticise the show the major gripe would be that it wasn't different enough from the other Stargates. If you'd watched the other two SG series you could sometimes tell were they were going in Universe. Air is essentialy Atlantis's pilot as is Darkness and Light almost exactly,the Lucian Alliance takeover was The Storm and They Eye with LA and the pulsar being the storm and I could go on. Recurring tropes and themes are to be expected when it's the same group of writers but I did feel they stepped up in Season 2 were they did put different and truly unque spins on some of those recurring elements.

One thing I did love about it is that it made the Acients mysterious again after Atlantis made them into bague Utopians that failed at everything and the sense of ambition to portray space travel as wondrous and alien plants as truly alien instead of constantly going to planets that look like Vancouver.

Originally Posted by koantemplation

That was the studio being afraid to have a series not tied to earth, especially if it meant not having the SG1 team in the show.

Not sure if it was the studio. The stones actualy seemed pretty engrained into Universe's mythos from the memory flashes that exposed Telford to interacting with the Blue Aliens. It also seemed fairly essential to the LA alliance plot which was important until it was sharply dropped in The Hunt.

It did strike me that it was used to good effect with guest stars. I would have just kept the Earth based stuff off screen unless absolutely necessary.

I feel it should have been more like ST: Voyager, (not in style) but in that they were really stranded on the other side of the universe and not only trying to get back home but actually exploring the universe because they could.

Voyager never actualy felt like it was stranded. A Kazon based episode or two near the beginning and that was it. It never felt like they struggled and the frequency they ran into things and people from Earth and or the Alpha Quadrant was irksome.

It annoyed me that there were actually characters that wanted to get home.

As of Twin Destinies it seemed most wanted to explore and fulfill Destiny's mission but you can't really blame them for pining for their home in a show were they are supposed to be stranded.

It differed from Atlantis were they all volunteered to search for the Lost City. That may sound more appealing but it struke me a few episodes in that we a group that volunteered to go to a new galaxy knowing there was little chance of ever going back should be a bit more varied than the cheery Atlantis expeditioneers.

[CD93]

Originally Posted by farscape

It differed from Atlantis were they all volunteered to search for the Lost City. That may sound more appealing but it struke me a few episodes in that we a group that volunteered to go to a new galaxy knowing there was little chance of ever going back should be a bit more varied than the cheery Atlantis expeditioneers.

I think for me, I was very much on the side of Rush throughout. Destiny's mission was so interesting to me that I wished hell on all who attempted to make it back to Earth

Whereas with Atlantis, everyone wanted to be there and got on with it - so it had a much better flow to it.

[farscape]

Originally Posted by CD93

I think for me, I was very much on the side of Rush throughout. Destiny's mission was so interesting to me that I wished hell on all who attempted to make it back to Earth

Whereas with Atlantis, everyone wanted to be there and got on with it - so it had a much better flow to it.

We didn't know what Destiny's mission was until midway through the second season. As far as the Icarus crew knew the ship was a rust bucket filled with outdated technology exploring galaxies that weren't seeded with life and thus no where near as populated.

The thing with Atlantis that struck me in one of early episodes is that the characters of people that are willing to throw away their lives on earth in to go on what they assumed to be a one way trip out of the galaxy should be more fascinating than "gee whiz we're in space". Then it became a none issue when they established a two way connection with Earth.

[XXBarbXX]

I'm really enjoying this although only having freeview I am a tad sf starved at the mo

[CD93]

Originally Posted by farscape

We didn't know what Destiny's mission was until midway through the second season. As far as the Icarus crew knew the ship was a rust bucket filled with outdated technology exploring galaxies that weren't seeded with life and thus no where near as populated.

The thing with Atlantis that struck me in one of early episodes is that the characters of people that are willing to throw away their lives on earth in to go on what they assumed to be a one way trip out of the galaxy should be more fascinating than "gee whiz we're in space". Then it became a none issue when they established a two way connection with Earth.

I could accept the Daedalus after a while throughout Season 2 and 3 - Season 4 and 5 don't interest me sadly. What made Atlantis... Atlantis... was gone.

[Verence]

Originally Posted by koantemplation

It annoyed me that there were actually characters that wanted to get home.

I mean you have this great opportunity to explore not only an ancient space craft, but the other side of the universe, and all you can worry about is getting home.

I was surprised that there weren't more characters who wanted to get home. If they had volunteered for the mission then fair enough but they were all there by accident.

Realistically Sgt Spencer wouldn't have been the only suicide.

As the man himself said:

"I never asked for this. All I want is to get off this ship."

[Jenzen]

I always thought it was underrated and suffered hugely from a close follow on of SGA and SG1 (albeit the TV movies) as SG1 was such a big show, and SGU was very disimilar from the other two.

If it had come out now it would have had a far better chance as a show in its own right. Deserves a second chance really.

[paulschapman]

Originally Posted by Mr. Brightside

Just started rewatching SGU, first time round i wasnt that keen on it, but this time, i'm actually enjoying it, had it been made today and not 2 years ago i think it could of survived, severe lack of good sci-fi on telly at the moment

Not so sure it would - and I actually liked it first time around. The thing is the bigwigs in SyFy just did not like hard science fiction and you can see the steady decline in hard science fiction output on the channel.

Another thing that cost it was the gaps - it was a slow burner at the start - this many thought was a weakness, but actually I thought it was a strength. Showing how they would get air, food and water

This slow burning nature was not helped by the long mid season gaps or the changes on the night it was shown - pitching it against a popular programme that would appeal to the same demographic.

These problems still exist with SyFy.

[Luis Essex]

Today I tuned into Pick TV. It was showing a trailer. The trailer stated
"Brand new to Pick TV ... For the first time on Pick TV... The entire first series of Stargate Universe starts from Friday at 7."

Does anyone know what was missing from the broadcast of the first series last year? Why was the broadcat last year not "entire"?

[koantemplation]

Originally Posted by Luis Essex

Today I tuned into Pick TV. It was showing a trailer. The trailer stated
"Brand new to Pick TV ... For the first time on Pick TV... The entire first series of Stargate Universe starts from Friday at 7."

Does anyone know what was missing from the broadcast of the first series last year? Why was the broadcat last year not "entire"?

As far as I know they showed the whole series.

[Danger Close]

I think they just rehashed the promo from last year.

I couldn't tell if they missed an ep from last years run.

Surprised PickTV haven't picked up Atlantis yet. Or maybe they're waiting to run it alongside SG-1 at the appropriate time...

[TV Time Mike]

I watched the whole series of Universe and as far as I am aware it ran for the full 40 episodes, so I think they might just have recycled the ad from last year.

Not a bad show and I think it was neat how they left it open for another series if there had been sufficent interest.

[The_abbott]

I preffered watching the show on DVD. I felt because of its slow pace and build up watching it one episode a week with adverts was just too boring. However, I loved the show on DVD and would watch it again at some stage.