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Old 04-07-2012, 11:39
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For months, Marvel Comics executives have been promising a major shake-up for their stories in the wake of the current "Avengers Vs. X-Men" event...Today, the scope of Marvel's plans came into light with the announcement of October's "Marvel NOW" initiative via Entertainment Weekly's Comic-Con themed issue.

Marvel NOW is being promised as an easy entry point into the classic Marvel U. Throughout October, Marvel will launch a number of brand new series -- often more than one a week -- with additional new series and relaunches for some classic books rolling out through February of next year.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=39525

Sounds interesting...
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:31
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Might be the perfect time to add some Marvel in my life, curently just DCed.

Hopefully Marvel will produce one of those most helpful "release schedule of our new titles" cards - like wot DC did -> makes selecting which ones to try that much more easier.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:47
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As a comic collector of about 30 years, starting with Marvel stuff, I'm getting a wee bit tired of constant relaunches.

They've already relaunched X-titles post-Schism and, from what I've read of AvX, I can;t see any way possible for Cyclops to redeem himself after this Phoenix fiasco so, what do they do, they bring the original X-Men into the present via time travel!!

For that reason, I think I'm out.
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Old 04-07-2012, 13:29
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The New 52 must have had some influence on them.

Trying to get into Avengers or X-Men or even Spider-Man, as a new fan coming from the movie franchises must be absolutely baffling. There are what? Half a dozen each Avengers and X-Men titles? More?

I hopped on to reading DC with the New 52 so that worked for me.

Though having said that, I'd have just about zero interest in reading comics based on either the Avengers or the X-Men movie franchises at this point.
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Old 04-07-2012, 13:56
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I picked up a fair few New 52 titles and have, eventually, settled on 3 for my regular pull list. It made a lot of headlines but after the marketing costs it didn't really do much for DC.

I agree with you along the lines of new readers coming in but it's a right mess. A new series called Avengers Assemble kicked off to tie in with the movie, from what I was told by a LCS manager, but it's easily missed. Add to that Avengers, New Avengers and Secret Avengers (which I think is being canned to make way for Uncanny Avengers)... And then I'm guessing Avengers will be starting again from issue #1? I finally started reading Avengers regularly when they relaunched a couple of years ago but they've been tripping over themselves quite a bit.

X-titles are worse. Uncanny X-Men recently relaunched, X-Men, X-Men Legacy, New Mutants, X-Treme X-Men, Astonishing X-Men (which is supposedly a stand-alone title), Wolverine and the X-Men and now "All New X-Men"... Not including the solo series'... I only get 3 of those and that's confusing enough as a long time reader!

Add to that the Wolverine plot devices being constantly re-used (mind control or possession, I can't count how many times this has happened in the past 5 years alone)...

I think I'm about to hit "the wall"... it was Grant Morrison's run on X-Men and JMS' on Spiderman that got me back into comics in 2001 after I'd had a break of a few years. I think I need another one.


ETA: However, I'm intrigued by Rocket Raccoon making an appearance...
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Old 04-07-2012, 19:13
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The new X-Men title sounds intriguing and I'd love to see Jean Grey back again but I find Bendis' writing juvenile.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:16
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sounds interesting
cant wait
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:31
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Dear God- what are Marvel playing at!?! I wish they'd stop f'kng about with the titles and their numbers! Roll on October...
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Old 05-07-2012, 16:52
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As a comic collector of about 30 years, starting with Marvel stuff, I'm getting a wee bit tired of constant relaunches.

They've already relaunched X-titles post-Schism and, from what I've read of AvX, I can;t see any way possible for Cyclops to redeem himself after this Phoenix fiasco so, what do they do, they bring the original X-Men into the present via time travel!!

For that reason, I think I'm out.
I think relaunches will be the way of the future. The justification will be to bring classic characters to a new generation of comic book fans.
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Old 06-07-2012, 07:55
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Just read the latest 'comic' news on the site today. A new 'Avengers' team is shown. Who is in it? ROCKET RACCOON!!!! Bloody Hell!!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:28
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Just read the latest 'comic' news on the site today. A new 'Avengers' team is shown. Who is in it? ROCKET RACCOON!!!! Bloody Hell!!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
I think you're looking at the wrong thing. There's talk of integrating the cosmic characters more with the likes of X-Men and Avengers* but Nova/Rocket Raccoon would most likely pop up in the rumoured Guardians of the Galaxy and Nova comics.

Todays "Avengers" image features Thor, Havok, Scarlet Witch, Rogue, Capt.America and Wolverine: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/07/...ny-avengers-1/

The image that features Rocket Raccoon is just the overall publicity shot.

*""Much like the change in outlook we're trying to bring about in uniting the disparate worlds of the X-Men and the Avengers, we're not looking at the 'cosmic' books as being separate from the rest of the line. We're approaching these titles and characters as Marvel titles and characters," Brevoort stated. "While by the nature of what they do and who they are guys like Nova and Rocket Raccoon will journey all over the universe, the same can be said of the X-Men or the Avengers, both of whom have spent plenty of time among the sea of stars in the past. So we're looking to unify that aspect of the Marvel pantheon as well, to integrate them more fully into the primary focus of the world and the publishing line, and not treat them like a separate entity so much. So yes, you'll be seeing more of Nova and Rocket and guys like that in the days to come.""
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Old 06-07-2012, 14:59
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I've not read American comics for years, mostly Manga these days, but I picked up the first volume of Essential The Amazing Spider-Man and have been enjoying it. I don't see why new fans can not pick up these cheap compilations? Have we not already had re-launches/re-tellings via the Ultimates line?

Also why do Marvel now release so many versions and multiple issues of those versions a month e.g. multiple Spider-Man titles and multiple issues a month? It seems like over-saturation and very difficult for fans to follow. I used to collect in the 90s with 1 issue a month each of 3 titles in Amazing, Spectacular and Spider-Man being enough...
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Old 06-07-2012, 16:16
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Also why do Marvel now release so many versions and multiple issues of those versions a month e.g. multiple Spider-Man titles and multiple issues a month? It seems like over-saturation and very difficult for fans to follow. I used to collect in the 90s with 1 issue a month each of 3 titles in Amazing, Spectacular and Spider-Man being enough...
Not sure exactly what you mean. Go back a few years and there was Amazing, Spectacular, Friendly Neighborhood and Sensational Spiderman titles. All but Amazing were axed and Amazing Spiderman was made into a 3-times-a-month comic with a rotating creative team. This kicked off with the "Brand New Day" arc.

Now, I think Amazing is only twice a month and there's a new Avenging Spiderman comic. So, currently, there's only 2 Spidey titles with one of those being twice-monthly.*

There have been multiple Spidey titles since the late 60s, though...

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*Not including the Ultimate line or comics that Spidey appears in, like Avengers/FF stuff...
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Old 06-07-2012, 18:50
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I think I was confused by the Marvel app, seeing so many different Spider titles that I thought were current and releasing multiple issues a month; while in the 90s there were only 3 releasing 1 issue a month. I assume there is only 1 ultimate spidey title? Thanks for clarifying!
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Old 06-07-2012, 19:58
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In the 90s there were at least 4 titles: Amazing, Spectacular, Web of and Spiderman
There's only one Ultimate Spiderman comic but I think the current mini-series "Spidermen" has something to do with the Ultimate version, too...
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Old 06-07-2012, 21:22
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I've recently got back into reading the occasional comic and I've always kinda avoided DC and Marvel universe since I was a kid because I want a beginning middle and end and won't get that from these universes. I'd been tempted to try the Ultimate Marvel universe and even the new DC 52 as it's a good point to jump on but nah I want to know what I'm reading has a conclusion. Still I really miss the X-Men so this will be hard to resist.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:36
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I think you're looking at the wrong thing. There's talk of integrating the cosmic characters more with the likes of X-Men and Avengers* but Nova/Rocket Raccoon would most likely pop up in the rumoured Guardians of the Galaxy and Nova comics.

Todays "Avengers" image features Thor, Havok, Scarlet Witch, Rogue, Capt.America and Wolverine: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/07/...ny-avengers-1/

The image that features Rocket Raccoon is just the overall publicity shot.

*""Much like the change in outlook we're trying to bring about in uniting the disparate worlds of the X-Men and the Avengers, we're not looking at the 'cosmic' books as being separate from the rest of the line. We're approaching these titles and characters as Marvel titles and characters," Brevoort stated. "While by the nature of what they do and who they are guys like Nova and Rocket Raccoon will journey all over the universe, the same can be said of the X-Men or the Avengers, both of whom have spent plenty of time among the sea of stars in the past. So we're looking to unify that aspect of the Marvel pantheon as well, to integrate them more fully into the primary focus of the world and the publishing line, and not treat them like a separate entity so much. So yes, you'll be seeing more of Nova and Rocket and guys like that in the days to come.""
Bugger! Still can't wait though!!!
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:54
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So is Invincible Iron Man being relaunched at #1?
I'm just getting into comics and was planning on buying Invincible volume 1: The Five Nightmares TPB, however that series is coming to an end and relaunching I'll probably start with the first volume of that.
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:27
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it is really easy to get on track of dc or marvel all you have to do is ask the right person
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:47
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from what i gather this isn't a reboot its just a massive jumping on point for the majority of the titles. with new creative teams but they'll still be canon to previous series. its quite similar to The Heroic Age banner from 10(?) years ago. just on a bigger scale.
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Old 08-08-2012, 14:09
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from what i gather this isn't a reboot its just a massive jumping on point for the majority of the titles. with new creative teams but they'll still be canon to previous series. its quite similar to The Heroic Age banner from 10(?) years ago. just on a bigger scale.
It's not a "reboot" but a "relaunch", as already discussed, and The Heroic Age was only 2 years ago which is why a lot of the folk I talk to at the local comic shops that I go to are just a wee bit fed up of things.
Basically, someone somewhere has decided that things are already too mixed up after the last relaunch, from 2 years ago, so they're kicking things off again... ugh!
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:27
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It's not a "reboot" but a "relaunch", as already discussed, and The Heroic Age was only 2 years ago which is why a lot of the folk I talk to at the local comic shops that I go to are just a wee bit fed up of things.
Basically, someone somewhere has decided that things are already too mixed up after the last relaunch, from 2 years ago, so they're kicking things off again... ugh!
sorry i meant heroes reborn from the 90s where the amazing spiderman and the majority of other marvel comics renumbered themselves from no1 but eventually went dual numbered and then returned to normal
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:33
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The Amazing Spider-Man renumbering was completely separate to the Heroes Reborn/Heroes Return situation but, yeah, I think any long-time Marvel fan knows the mess that 'that' was born out of, lol!

(Heroes Reborn/Return ran '96-'97 with the Return being in 1997. The relaunch/renumbering of Spidey was in 1999 which kinda ran alongside John Byrne's "Chapter One" which launched in Dec 1998...)
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Old 11-09-2012, 13:30
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Now that we've had quite a bit more detail on this, it's clearly not a reboot, just a relaunch of certain key titles with new creators.

Essentially it all boils down to Brian Michael Bendis leaving Avengers/New Avengers. Bendis has been at the helm of the Marvel Universe since he took over Avengers back in 2005. Lately though, he's clearly been winding things down and the plots in Avengers/New Avengers have felt a bit tame since the end of Siege (the current AVX tie-in issue are nothing but filler). So it's a timely move for him.

Meanwhile Jonathan Hickman has been doing great things on Fantastic Four since he took on that title in 2009. Hence why Hickman is being promoted into Bendis' old job.

So for those interested, here's a list of titles that will be cancelled followed by the new title replacing it:

Avengers (Bendis/Deodato) > Avengers (Hickman/Opena)
Captain America (Brubaker/Epting) > Captain America (Remender/Romita Jr.)
Deadpool (Way/Garza) > Deadpool (Posehn/Duggan)
Fantastic Four (Hickman/Stegman) > Fantastic Four (Fraction/Bagley)
FF (Hickman/Dragotta) > FF (Fraction/Allred)
Incredible Hulk (Aaron/Palo) > Indestructible Hulk (Waid/Yu)
Invincible Iron Man (Fraction/Larroca) > Iron Man (Gillen/Land)
New Avengers(Bendis/Deodato) > New Avengers (Hickman/Epting)
The Mighty Thor (Fraction/Kitson) > Thor: God of Thunder (Aaron/Ribic)
Uncanny X-Men (Gillen/Pacheco) > Uncanny Avengers (Remender/Cassaday)
X-Men Legacy (Gage/Baldeon) > X-Men Legacy (Spurrier/Huat)
Brand new title: All-New X-Men (Bendis/Immonen)

I would say that the titles to look our for will be:

Avengers/New Avengers by Hickman
If he lives up to his rep from Fantastic four, then this could be as fresh and exciting as Bendis' initial run seemed back in '05.

Captain America/Uncanny Avengers by Rick Remender
Remender is one of the best young writers Marvel has at the moment, his run on Uncanny X-Force is already considered a modern classic and his re-invention of Venom and work on Secret Avengers have both been stellar.

Indestructible Hulk by Mark Waid
If Mark Waid can do to Hulk what he's recently done on Daredevil this could actually be the best new title of them all. Wait and see though. Hulk's always been a tough character to do new things with. No one's really done amazing things on Hulk since Peter David's classic run back in the 90's.

All-New X-Men by Bendis
This is a bit of a wild card. He will have Stuart Immonen providing art, which is a massive plus, but really it's all a bit of an unknown. I don't think Bendis has ever written X-Men before so it's all fresh for him.
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Old 20-09-2012, 17:31
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I definately hope they don't do anything like DC's zero comics, at the moment they read like filler episodes but when you have a whole range doing the same thing it's mind numbing. At the moment it just looks like the entire DC creative team has ha a month off.
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