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Walker (Neil Newbon) Appreciation Thread
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cherrytreeabc
19-07-2012
Originally Posted by Bluebird69:
“Yes, the thought did cross my mind a while back, that they might be lining up Walker as the new villain. They'll need another 'bad boy' when Emmett decides to move on. Or when they've finished reforming him into cuddly and safe Nu!Brendan - whichever happens soonest

But I really don't know what to think right now. Everything seems to be building towards some kind of epic showdown between Walker and Brendan in Later, and I think there can be only one person left standing. A few months ago, I'd have said that person would have to be Brendan - after all, ES had tweeted that Brendans SL had been mapped out until next Feb. And, once upon a time, Emmett told people that he'd warn fans in advance if he was planning to leave HOs. But I'm not sure that either of those things count for much any more. ES is notorious for her misleading tweets (and she also seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth recently. Is she still EP?), and I don't think Emmett would be allowed to give away his plans if they ruined a shock OMG! death planned for Later!

I really wouldn't be surprised if this years Later was the end of the road for BB. I'm gearing up for it now - I don't want to be misled and make assumptions that he's safe until next year at least, only to have my heart ripped out unexpectedly

And I still can't fathom out what Walker's motives are. Part of me thinks the Danny Houston thing could be a possibility - but, if he already knew about DH when he was inside with Brendan, why didn't he do something to him then? And if he didn't know anything about DH, what were his motives for wanting to get close to Brendan in prison (under, quite probably, an assumed identity?) Tis all very mysterious ”

I'm convinced he has a fake identity as Ally called him Nick and speaking of we should find out the connection with him too. maybe they met in the army or walker is some kind of undercover cop
Amanda_S
19-07-2012
I'm trying to find a scenario that would allow Walker to remain in Hollyoaks village post Later. He would have to have a base location and other characters to interact with. If he and Brendan aren't on speaking terms them it wont be the club (unless he winds up with a share in it!) and there is nowhere else he could fit into. And who is he going to interact with as Brendan, Cheryl and presumably Joel wont want to know him. Unless they bring in his wife and/or partner in crime...
So I'm a bit worried he won't survive Later but hope he does as the character has such potential and has a fan base already.
Bluebird69
19-07-2012
Originally Posted by cherrytreeabc:
“I'm convinced he has a fake identity as Ally called him Nick and speaking of we should find out the connection with him too. maybe they met in the army or walker is some kind of undercover cop”

I don't think he's an undercover cop. I can't think of any reason why the police would now suspect Brendan of Danny's murder, when they never did before. And Warren is the only person likely to have grassed, and I don't think he would because of his own involvement. The only reason he might have done is as part of some plea-bargaining to reduce his sentence - but Walker was already in prison with Brendan long before Warren was arrested, so the timing wouldn't make sense
If we find out more about the Walker/Ally connection soon, it might start to fall into place.
I have no patience, I need to know now!!

Originally Posted by Amanda_S:
“I'm trying to find a scenario that would allow Walker to remain in Hollyoaks village post Later. He would have to have a base location and other characters to interact with. If he and Brendan aren't on speaking terms them it wont be the club (unless he winds up with a share in it!) and there is nowhere else he could fit into. And who is he going to interact with as Brendan, Cheryl and presumably Joel wont want to know him. Unless they bring in his wife and/or partner in crime...
So I'm a bit worried he won't survive Later but hope he does as the character has such potential and has a fan base already.”

I do agree that he has so much potential, and it would be a real shame if he doesn't survive later
But I might change my mind on that, depending on the outcome of any showdown between him and Brendan
mimicole
19-07-2012
Originally Posted by Amanda_S:
“I'm trying to find a scenario that would allow Walker to remain in Hollyoaks village post Later. He would have to have a base location and other characters to interact with. If he and Brendan aren't on speaking terms them it wont be the club (unless he winds up with a share in it!) and there is nowhere else he could fit into. And who is he going to interact with as Brendan, Cheryl and presumably Joel wont want to know him. Unless they bring in his wife and/or partner in crime...
So I'm a bit worried he won't survive Later but hope he does as the character has such potential and has a fan base already.”

Exactly. I'd like him to stay.
cherrytreeabc
19-07-2012
it's difficult imagining him to stay after Later because like you said there wouldn't be a lot of characters for him to interact with unless he in some way take Joel's part of the club. I don't know if Joel would stay loyal to Brendan for long as I think he wants the club for himself so maybe Walker could use that to his advantage?
we also have to consider how will be his relationship with brendan after Later, if he is still alive that's it
mimicole
19-07-2012
Originally Posted by cherrytreeabc:
“I'm convinced he has a fake identity as Ally called him Nick and speaking of we should find out the connection with him too. maybe they met in the army or walker is some kind of undercover cop”

Yes, I'd like this to be explored at some point.
Ellie_Dollie
20-07-2012
Originally Posted by cherrytreeabc:
“if he is related to Danny surely he would know that Danny was in the village and had contacts with Warren and Brendan before his death. if he thinks they killed him he could easily want revenge on Brendan so the story would be believable in that sense. Personally I wouldn't like it though because I don't think that Danny was this great character that deserves revenge for his death, I would be quite disappointed.
what if Brendan did something that resulted to be extremely damaging for Walker? I think Brendan's always been involved in dodgy business and he could have damaged a lot of people what do you think?”

I thought at first he was something to do with Danny but now not so sure.
But he definitely knows a lot about a lot of things. Like how did he know that Myra was sent to prison for growing the weed that Bart had for Joel.
He also knows that Ste and Brendan were together, how could he know that?!
I also think, like Bluebird, that Later will be the end of Brendan.
No-one knew that Lynsey was going to be killed and that was a shock so what more of an OMG moment (that HO's seems to love) then for Emmett to leave a lot earlier then ppl were expecting. Plus Emmett's tweet the other night thanking everyone seems to make me wonder even more whether he's already filming his last scenes.
If that's true then that is so unfair to Stendan fans.
Sorry for turning the Walker thread into a Stendan convo but Walker is a big connection with them (or with the 'end' of Brendan) it would seem.
Also I don't think that Walker is gay and I don't think that Alice Walker is his wife either. I dunno who she is though but the way he spoke to her on the phone when he was arranging to meet is not the way someone would speak to their wife.
mimicole
20-07-2012
Originally Posted by Ellie_Dollie:
“I thought at first he was something to do with Danny but now not so sure.
But he definitely knows a lot about a lot of things. Like how did he know that Myra was sent to prison for growing the weed that Bart had for Joel.
He also knows that Ste and Brendan were together, how could he know that?!
I also think, like Bluebird, that Later will be the end of Brendan.
No-one knew that Lynsey was going to be killed and that was a shock so what more of an OMG moment (that HO's seems to love) then for Emmett to leave a lot earlier then ppl were expecting. Plus Emmett's tweet the other night thanking everyone seems to make me wonder even more whether he's already filming his last scenes.
If that's true then that is so unfair to Stendan fans.
Sorry for turning the Walker thread into a Stendan convo but Walker is a big connection with them (or with the 'end' of Brendan) it would seem.
Also I don't think that Walker is gay and I don't think that Alice Walker is his wife either. I dunno who she is though but the way he spoke to her on the phone when he was arranging to meet is not the way someone would speak to their wife.”

I don't remember those scenes. Anyone got a link? I know that youtube have taken some scenes down due to copyright.
mimicole
20-07-2012
I watched the "what van" scene again. So far, it's my favourite Walker scene.

Poor Joel doesn't stand a chance, does he?
callmemaybe
20-07-2012
Hate thinking about it. But Emmett tweeted things that made me think that he is leaving Oaks. Emmett is a great actor...one of the best Oaks had but I really want him to go far...sadly that means leaving Oaks. I don't want it to happen though. Yup, I'm not ruling anything out.

I want Neil to stay on as well. I think he is a good addition to Oaks. Love him as Brendans bad boy competition makes for great telly.
cherrytreeabc
20-07-2012
hi

Originally Posted by mimicole:
“I don't remember those scenes. Anyone got a link? I know that youtube have taken some scenes down due to copyright.”


the episode should be here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwY7J...1&feature=plcp



Originally Posted by callmemaybe:
“Hate thinking about it. But Emmett tweeted things that made me think that he is leaving Oaks. Emmett is a great actor...one of the best Oaks had but I really want him to go far...sadly that means leaving Oaks. I don't want it to happen though. Yup, I'm not ruling anything out.

I want Neil to stay on as well. I think he is a good addition to Oaks. Love him as Brendans bad boy competition makes for great telly.”

what did Emmett say?
Ellie_Dollie
20-07-2012
Glad you got the link to the ep where Walker was talking to his 'wife'

Emmett's tweet said...

Taking this time to thank everyone for their loyalty and unflinching love for Double B himself Brendan Brady. U guys are different league
cherrytreeabc
22-07-2012
Originally Posted by Ellie_Dollie:
“Glad you got the link to the ep where Walker was talking to his 'wife'

Emmett's tweet said...

Taking this time to thank everyone for their loyalty and unflinching love for Double B himself Brendan Brady. U guys are different league”

thanks Ellie
would they really kill Brendan off in Later? Hollyoaks love their OMG moments at the moment
Ellie_Dollie
22-07-2012
yw

I am thinking it's more and more likely that Brendan will die in Later especially with what they have been filming over the weekend which looks like there is a lot of blood involved, possibly Brendan's.
I was really looking forward to a Brendan Later, disappointed it didn't include Ste but was still glad that we would get a no-holds-barred Brendan.
Now I'm dreading it
cherrytreeabc
22-07-2012
Originally Posted by Ellie_Dollie:
“yw

I am thinking it's more and more likely that Brendan will die in Later especially with what they have been filming over the weekend which looks like there is a lot of blood involved, possibly Brendan's.
I was really looking forward to a Brendan Later, disappointed it didn't include Ste but was still glad that we would get a no-holds-barred Brendan.
Now I'm dreading it ”

I still think it will be Walker the one who dies especially if some speculations are true and he is Lynsey's murderer. I want them to survive Later they are both great characters
Bluebird69
22-07-2012
I couldn't have asked for a better 'Later', with Brendan, Walker, Joel and Cheryl (and no Ste ) It's shaping up to be just perfect, imo. As long as nobody (that I love) dies in it!

I'm still wondering why Brendan is being hunted in it? And by who? Walker? That kinda confuses me, because if Walker was behind Lynsey's death (which I'm not convinced of, for reasons stated elsewhere) then wouldn't Brendan be hunting him down, instead of being hunted himself?

I really hope there's a way to keep Walker on, but if he does turn out to be behind Lynsey's death in some way, or if he kidnaps/harms either Cheryl or Joel in Later, it's not looking too good
cherrytreeabc
22-07-2012
Originally Posted by Bluebird69:
“I couldn't have asked for a better 'Later', with Brendan, Walker, Joel and Cheryl (and no Ste ) It's shaping up to be just perfect, imo. As long as nobody (that I love) dies in it!

I'm still wondering why Brendan is being hunted in it? And by who? Walker? That kinda confuses me, because if Walker was behind Lynsey's death (which I'm not convinced of, for reasons stated elsewhere) then wouldn't Brendan be hunting him down, instead of being hunted himself?

I really hope there's a way to keep Walker on, but if he does turn out to be behind Lynsey's death in some way, or if he kidnaps/harms either Cheryl or Joel in Later, it's not looking too good ”

sometimes I don't believe what actors say but if Emmett said the truth I can see him and Walker hunted by Sampson considering that they killed his brother
Ellie_Dollie
23-07-2012
Originally Posted by cherrytreeabc:
“I still think it will be Walker the one who dies especially if some speculations are true and he is Lynsey's murderer. I want them to survive Later they are both great characters”

I keep thinking Walker did kill Lynsey but I don't want Brendan to kill Walker.
I actually like the character of Walker (that will change if he is the killer though and whatever he does to Brendan in Later lol).
I want them both to survive but I guess someone is going to die and if he did kill Lynsey it looks like he's the one!
But how is Brendan going to get away with murder again, so that's another reason why I think Later is the end of Brendan and I do NOT want that
Ellie_Dollie
23-07-2012
Originally Posted by Bluebird69:
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I'm still wondering why Brendan is being hunted in it? And by who? Walker (”

Could be the police hunting him?
If he's gonna go after Sampson, which it sounds like he is, then he could be on the run??
I don't think that Caspar died. I think Walker had something to do with that obituary being posted and for whatever reason he wants Brendan to go after Sampson.
Amanda_S
24-07-2012
I was wondering if it's possible that Walker's motives are - in his twisted reasoning - for Brendan's own good. Remember back when Joel got stabbed, outside the hospital Walker said something like 'What is with this lone wolf act? People are expendable, did I get that right?' which obviously refers to what Brendan must have told him in prison. Without going to Sky planner to check, I think there was also a reference to that in a convo they had outside the club when Walker told Brendan he'd have included him in the deal once, but not now. Add in the line Walker said to Joel in the club office about not caring about anyone making you invincible'.
Think what I'm trying to say that that's 3 separate references, and Walker is seemingly taking away everyone that stops Brendan being the person he bragged about being in prison...
Maybe we'll start finding out some things when Walker is - hopefully - back tonight.
Amanda_S
25-07-2012
Best bit of tonights ep for me was the look between Walker and Brendan before Walker left. Some serious UST going down there. They have to follow up on that one kiss soon, surely...
cherrytreeabc
25-07-2012
Originally Posted by Amanda_S:
“Best bit of tonights ep for me was the look between Walker and Brendan before Walker left. Some serious UST going down there. They have to follow up on that one kiss soon, surely...”

you wish

they should have more screen time I want the story to progress a bit
cyrilandshirley
25-07-2012
Originally Posted by Amanda_S:
“Best bit of tonights ep for me was the look between Walker and Brendan before Walker left. Some serious UST going down there. They have to follow up on that one kiss soon, surely...”

There really was a shedload of UST tonight. But I still think Walker's a big tease and has no intention of resolving it.

Originally Posted by cherrytreeabc:
“they should have more screen time I want the story to progress a bit”

I really, badly wish they would progress it. Walker is just brilliant, I love him on the screen, but jesus, they need to write him some material. So much potential going wasted here. The interactions when he first came in were way more interesting.

Just had to get that frustration off my chest.
Ellie_Dollie
25-07-2012
I don't think Walker is gay. That kiss between them didn't 'feel' right to me.
Walker was all little kisses and Brendan animal lust
I preferred the way Brendan kissed that guy in Chez Chez (when he sacked Ste) and I hated the fact that he was kissing anyone except Ste.

But I also wish they would get on with it!
How did Walker know where Brendan would be tonight. No matter what Walker said about knowing he would be in one of two places, Brendan only got to the place where he ended up because that guy drove there!
Walker seems to be involved with Sampson I think and if this drug deal is gonna happen then I guess that's what leads to all the blood etc in Later if Brendan is messing with the real 'big drug dealers'!
Amanda_S
26-07-2012
What if Sampson did actually exist and Walker was in prison because of him, and he'd wronged Sampson somehow, similar to how Brendan has now wronged him. Sampson could have threatened Walker's wife and children and they could be in hiding because of it - which would explain the secret nighttime meeting between them. Walker wants rid of Sampson so his family stay safe but can't do it on his own and he doesnt want to be the one to deal the final blow. In prison he meets Brendan who has bigged himself up as someone who might possibly be able to help him end Sampson and he puts his plan into action from there.
That wouldn't explain why Ally knows him as Nick - unless his family is in witness protection, or he is police - but would make him redeemable as he is kind of doing it for the right reasons.
Guess I'm just tired of waiting for answers and am trying to come up with my own!!!
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