[Miasima Goria]

Well so says the National Trust.

http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/20...visitor-centre

The National Trust has come under fire for including an exhibit in the new Giants' Causeway Visitors' Centre acknowledging the creationist view of how the world-famous stones were formed.
The National Trust had been under pressure from evangelical Christians to give equal prominence to its religious viewpoint in the new £18.5m (partly publicly funded) visitor centre at the UNESCO World Heritage Site on Northern Ireland's north Antrim coast.
Creationists believe the stones, which emerged from the sea-bed following intense volcanic and geological activity 60 million years ago, were in fact formed around 4,500 years ago as a result of Noah's Flood.

Really? The National Trust should be ashamed by this.

[Moony]

Did they also include the Finn McCool legend too?

[Miasima Goria]

Originally Posted by Moony

Did they also include the Finn McCool legend too?

Was he a Christian?

[exlordlucan]

Originally Posted by Miasima Goria

Well so says the National Trust.

http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/20...visitor-centre

The National Trust has come under fire for including an exhibit in the new Giants' Causeway Visitors' Centre acknowledging the creationist view of how the world-famous stones were formed.
The National Trust had been under pressure from evangelical Christians to give equal prominence to its religious viewpoint in the new £18.5m (partly publicly funded) visitor centre at the UNESCO World Heritage Site on Northern Ireland's north Antrim coast.
Creationists believe the stones, which emerged from the sea-bed following intense volcanic and geological activity 60 million years ago, were in fact formed around 4,500 years ago as a result of Noah's Flood.

Really? The National Trust should be ashamed by this.

Why, should it be older or or something?

[Moony]

Originally Posted by Miasima Goria

Was he a Christian?

Druish I think. Must have had a big Schwartz to build the giants causeway all by himself.

[Moony]

Originally Posted by exlordlucan

Why, should it be older or or something?

Modern estimates place its age in excess of 50 million years.

[Voynich]

Originally Posted by exlordlucan

Why, should it be older or or something?

Just a wee bit older, aye.

[pugamo]

Maybe they introduced it so that we can all point and laugh.

[Moony]

Originally Posted by pugamo

Maybe they introduced it so that we can all point and laugh.

Ha...ha...

[peon]

depends how it is presented. if the information at the exhibit gives the geological facts, but then goes on to add something like

"Christian beliefs about the formation of the causeway originate from....etc etc"

then where is the harm at all? fuss over nothing (again)

[Miasima Goria]

Originally Posted by peon

depends how it is presented. if the information at the exhibit gives the geological facts, but then goes on to add something like

"Christian beliefs about the formation of the causeway originate from....etc etc"

then where is the harm at all? fuss over nothing (again)

Because it's not a religious exhibit?

[Moony]

Originally Posted by peon

depends how it is presented. if the information at the exhibit gives the geological facts, but then goes on to add something like

"Christian beliefs about the formation of the causeway originate from....etc etc"

then where is the harm at all? fuss over nothing (again)

I'd have no problem with that at all - same as I'd have no problem with the exhibit mentioning the legend I mentioned above.

[peon]

Originally Posted by Miasima Goria

Because it's not a religious exhibit?

So what? Who is it hurting really to include this info? Nobody.

[Caldari]

The National Trust had been under pressure from evangelical Christians to give equal prominence to its religious viewpoint in the new £18.5m (partly publicly funded) visitor centre at the UNESCO World Heritage Site on Northern Ireland's north Antrim coast.

Pandering to deluded fools. Pathetic, the National Trust should be ashamed. In fact, they should be forced to sit in the corner until they can see the error of their ways.

[peon]

Originally Posted by Caldari

Pandering to deluded fools. Pathetic, the National Trust should be ashamed. In fact, they should be forced to sit in the corner until they can see the error of their ways.

you could say the same of information provided at stately homes or Loch Ness that mentions their ghost and monster legends respectively. pandering to deluded fools who want them to be true, but human interest comprises more than just cold hard facts.

[TheSilentFez]

Dear God... I thought Northern Ireland was relatively free from fundamentalist lunatics. Are they just pandering to the views of the American tourists or something?

[johnnybgoode83]

Originally Posted by peon

you could say the same of information provided at stately homes or Loch Ness that mentions their ghost and monster legends respectively. pandering to deluded fools who want them to be true, but human interest comprises more than just cold hard facts.

The Loch Ness monster is real

[jesaya]

I personally don't have a problem with the NT adding colour to their exhibits by talking about myths and legends or even the beliefs of some Christians that the causeway was created in a Noah's flood.

What bothers me is that they may have added this piece of information because they were lobbied by an interest group to do so, giving something so abjectly nonsensical a level of credence it does not warrant.

The fundamentalists can point to this and say 'see - they admit it might be true' or worse, start demanding that similar rubbish is added to exhibits at the Natural History Museum.. sticking models of cavemen in with the dinosaurs like they have done in the US.

Sorry, but pandering to a small group of Christians is ridiculous and I am suprised the NT can't see the agenda that sits behind this.

[pickwick]

There's more info here.

"Young Earth Creationists believe that the earth was created some 6000 years ago. This is based on a specific interpretation of the Bible and in particular the account of creation in the book of Genesis.
Some people around the world, and specifically here in Northern Ireland, share this perspective.
Young Earth Creationists continue to debate questions about the age of the earth. As we have seen from the past, and understand today, perhaps the Giant's Causeway will continue to prompt awe and wonder, and arouse debate and challenging questions for as long as visitors come to see it."

Basically I agree with jesaya. It's a blatant attempt to graft the American "teach the controversy" idea onto a trusted national organisation.

[shackfan]

Originally Posted by exlordlucan

Why, should it be older or or something?

Er its not how old it SHOULD be, its how old it actually IS

[Voynich]

Originally Posted by TheSilentFez

Dear God... I thought Northern Ireland was relatively free from fundamentalist lunatics. Are they just pandering to the views of the American tourists or something?

I guess you've not much experience with the DUP. Don't bother asking what they think of gay people either! Doubtless to say a major campagn of their's was "Save Ulster from Sodomy"

[jesaya]

Originally Posted by pickwick

There's more info here.

"Young Earth Creationists believe that the earth was created some 6000 years ago. This is based on a specific interpretation of the Bible and in particular the account of creation in the book of Genesis.
Some people around the world, and specifically here in Northern Ireland, share this perspective.
Young Earth Creationists continue to debate questions about the age of the earth. As we have seen from the past, and understand today, perhaps the Giant's Causeway will continue to prompt awe and wonder, and arouse debate and challenging questions for as long as visitors come to see it."

Basically I agree with jesaya. It's a blatant attempt to graft the American "teach the controversy" idea onto a trusted national organisation.

I told my partner. She just cancelled our membership.

[psionic]

Originally Posted by TheSilentFez

Dear God... I thought Northern Ireland was relatively free from fundamentalist lunatics. Are they just pandering to the views of the American tourists or something?

I think they have a fair few....

[shackfan]

Originally Posted by johnnybgoode83

The Loch Ness monster is real

[psionic]

Originally Posted by johnnybgoode83

The Loch Ness monster is real

Yes, but escaped from Noah's ark