[Pyramidbread]

Square Enix has teased more Final Fantasy 13 content - and some are speculating the Japanese publisher means to release Final Fantasy 13-3.

Final Fantasy 13 and 13-2 director Motomu Toriyama told Japanese magazine Famitsu (via Andriasang) the announcement of something relating to the 13 universe will be made soon.

THERE MAY BE SPOILERS AHEAD.

Final Fantasy 13-2 ended with a "to be continued" message. Some took this to mean that Final Fantasy 13-3 was a dead cert, but it in fact related to DLC.

But speculation was further fuelled by the DLC itself, with the Lightning episode in particular setting tongues wagging.

"The [FF 13-2] Lightning download content had an ending that left a feeling of mystery and hope," Toriyama said.

"The day when the meaning of this will come to light is not too far off."

Will this announcement and game tie in with the Final Fantasy 25th Anniversary celebrations this year, which will also see the re-release of Final Fantasy 7 on PC?

An event is planned in an art gallery on 31st August in Shibuya, Tokyo. We'll know soon enough.

Meanwhile, Toriyama suggested the Final Fantasy 10 HD remake is a long way off.

"Regarding HD conversions, there is a lot to look into, so please wait a bit more," he said.

Eurogamer

[KillerCloud]

Well I'd like a 13-3 as I liked 2 but I really want the FFX HD game so much. I suppose I'll have to stick with my ps2 for now

[Palmerwho]

FF XIII-3!!! I've only just got back into playing XIII !!!

FF X HD delay

[Bester]

Disappointing news re FFX HD but I can wait a little longer.

Surely the worst news to come out re FF in the last week or two was when it was said that there would be no remake of FFVII until they've surpassed it with a new regular series game. In other words, never then......

[Conroy]

I'm still waiting on Versus XIII. That's all I want from the Final Fantasy franchise.

[Cryolemon]

I'd prefer an FF15 to be honest.

[barracuda91]

Great news for me. Loved XIII and XIII-2, love to see another sequel, more Lightning is always good.

[vampirek]

Originally Posted by Conroy

I'm still waiting on Versus XIII. That's all I want from the Final Fantasy franchise.

Versus XIII will become Final Fantasy 15 sooner or later, yes I know there was a video but that was unreliable but given the time scale and that 13 would have 3 game releases, I can see them changing the name to keep it separate.

The Final Fantasy 7 remake point by Square Enix makes no sense unless what they mean is that they are waiting till it is possible to create a game that would incorporate their vision of a remake. Considering the advancements being used in the FFvXIII/FF15 game, they are leaning towards a game that is like the featured movie. So the remake could be 4 years away, 5 if they want to fit it into their 30th anniversary.

The FFXHD delay, well Square Enix want to make it look good so no problem with delaying it rather than being some cheap upgrade to get a few more sales like some games have done.

A FF13-3 would be interesting to see, would they go with one character like in Dirge of Cerberus, introduce new ones or again use time travel to bring other characters back.

[Pyramidbread]

XIII-2 left the door wide open to XIII-3, especially with the Lightning DLC, looks like Lightning is the main character of XIII-3. I'd bet this one will be the conclusion too.

[Conroy]

Originally Posted by vampirek

Versus XIII will become Final Fantasy 15 sooner or later.

I doubt thatwill happen. Versus XIII is set in the same Fabula Nova Crystallis universe as FFXIII & XIII-2.

To call it FFXV would require a complete change to the background story of the game and it would be set in a different universe. I can't see Nomura chucking everything he has worked on for so many years to start something different.

[sheep88]

Just hope they don't shelve FFX HD all together i really love X and got rid of my PS2 and game a while back and regretted it ever since but it still holds the title as my favourite game and a chance to play again in HD would be amazing. I really hope it doesn't get 'The Last Remnant' treatment same goes for Versus XIII, XIII-3 if they are making it should wait in line i mean XIII-2 jumped the cue ahead of Versus XIII looks like the same will happen and XIII-3 would be made (if they are making it) ahead of both Versus and X HD.

[vampirek]

Originally Posted by Conroy

I doubt thatwill happen. Versus XIII is set in the same Fabula Nova Crystallis universe as FFXIII & XIII-2.

To call it FFXV would require a complete change to the background story of the game and it would be set in a different universe. I can't see Nomura chucking everything he has worked on for so many years to start something different.

Not neccessarily, whilst yes it would be set in the same universe the story itself is different, the gameplay is different and the game itself is completely different than the 13 games. It already happened to Agito XIII which became Type-0 with the reasoning it had little to do with 13 (thats despite having the same background story)

[Bester]

I thought that they'd already intimated that Versus XIII was almost certainly going to become XV?

[Cryolemon]

Originally Posted by Bester

I thought that they'd already intimated that Versus XIII was almost certainly going to become XV?

Probably, but sometimes I wonder if Square Enix even know what they are doing.

[Pyramidbread]

Originally Posted by sheep88

Just hope they don't shelve FFX HD all together i really love X and got rid of my PS2 and game a while back and regretted it ever since but it still holds the title as my favourite game and a chance to play again in HD would be amazing. I really hope it doesn't get 'The Last Remnant' treatment same goes for Versus XIII, XIII-3 if they are making it should wait in line i mean XIII-2 jumped the cue ahead of Versus XIII looks like the same will happen and XIII-3 would be made (if they are making it) ahead of both Versus and X HD.

There is no line, XIII's team is just more competant and faster than Versus' team. Seriously, if your gonna blame anyone for Versus not being out, blame the team working on it.

[Uncle_Pobatti]

Originally Posted by vampirek

The Final Fantasy 7 remake point by Square Enix makes no sense unless what they mean is that they are waiting till it is possible to create a game that would incorporate their vision of a remake. Considering the advancements being used in the FFvXIII/FF15 game, they are leaning towards a game that is like the featured movie. So the remake could be 4 years away, 5 if they want to fit it into their 30th anniversary.

As much as I'd like to see a FF7 remake one day, I can (sort of) see their point. Square-Enix seem keen to drag Final Fantasy away from the gameplay of the first 10 games, and releasing Final Fantasy 7 would be a huge event that would surely eclipse any potential new title they have planned.

The gameplay of the first 10 games was ahead of it's time for quite some years - but somewhere around the 8th instalment it appeared to mainly be used just because it was expected to be used. This hampered much of the forward momentum that each new Final Fantasy game carried, as this gameplay system was now working against the series and acting as a ball and chain anchoring Final Fantasy firmly in the past.

Since FF11, Square-Enix has tried to shake up the formula, reinvent the brand, redefine expectations and bring the series into the 21st Century. They've had varied success, from the awful FF11 to the fantastic FF12 to the linear as sin FF13. They've failed quite a bit, but they obviously haven't given up the idea that the next major landmark in the series is just around the corner.

To release FF7 now would result in massive success and sales guaranteed, but it would also generate a whole lot of publicity and pressure for the Final Fantasy team to just revert back to the classic format for new games when the series really should be looking forward.

FF10 is a calculated risk - it's nowhere near as high profile as FF7 is, but it's sure to generate huge sales. Whatever the next Final Fantasy happens to be, the Final Fantasy 10 HD version is just about low profile enough to be publicised as a secondary release alongside the new title and be a nifty supply of income should the new game sink like FF13-2 did in Japan.

Once the new Final Fantasy eclipses that of the past, once the old is no longer a threat to the new, once the future of the series is established beyond doubt - only then will it be safe to unleash a FF7 remake.

This seems illogical on face value - I mean, they could make millions guaranteed with a FF7 remake but could lose just as much with a failed FF13-3... but supposing FF7 was remade and everyone bought it, where would they go from there?

[Uncle_Pobatti]

Originally Posted by Pyramidbread

There is no line, XIII's team is just more competant and faster than Versus' team. Seriously, if your gonna blame anyone for Versus not being out, blame the team working on it.

Well, since Versus 13 isn't out yet and not a great deal is truly know about it, I can't be 100% sure about this, but I don't see how your definition of 'competent' fits here.

If, by 'competent', you mean 'willing to cut corners, remove exploration, simplify the game system, re-use the same engine for a second instalment with only minor changes, re-use a small number of rather small location maps passing as different time periods, retcon the ending to make a sequel, don't even provide one for the sequel itself, advertise DLC in the game itself (the card game), Chao Racing Chocobo Edition, that **** slot machine' then yes, the FF13 team are very 'competent' indeed

[007Fusion]

I would like a full resoultion to Lighting's story. So a third and final game of this series of games would be welcome. Though ideally i woud rather FF XIII Versus released before this.

[Cryolemon]

Originally Posted by Uncle_Pobatti

This seems illogical on face value - I mean, they could make millions guaranteed with a FF7 remake but could lose just as much with a failed FF13-3... but supposing FF7 was remade and everyone bought it, where would they go from there?

I personally think they probably should save FF7 HD for as long as possible, because as the end of this article points out, if they're ever in a lot of trouble financially it would save them:

http://kotaku.com/5920568/an-open-le...ndomencounters

And remember, if your financial situation ever gets really dire, if you're ever in a situation where the money-bleeding can't be patched, there's a four-word answer to all of your problems.

Final Fantasy VII HD.

[BastardBeaver]

FFS - where is Versus XIII? Just give us some news on that please S-E!!

[Pyramidbread]

Originally Posted by Uncle_Pobatti

Well, since Versus 13 isn't out yet and not a great deal is truly know about it, I can't be 100% sure about this, but I don't see how your definition of 'competent' fits here.

If, by 'competent', you mean 'willing to cut corners, remove exploration, simplify the game system, re-use the same engine for a second instalment with only minor changes, re-use a small number of rather small location maps passing as different time periods, retcon the ending to make a sequel, don't even provide one for the sequel itself, advertise DLC in the game itself (the card game), Chao Racing Chocobo Edition, that **** slot machine' then yes, the FF13 team are very 'competent' indeed

Well, I know which team has managed to release two games and are now working on a 3rd, and I know which team has been working on one game for six years, going on seven. Hell, people have spent less time waiting for Half Life 2 Episode 3/Half Life 3.

[sheep88]

Originally Posted by Pyramidbread

There is no line, XIII's team is just more competant and faster than Versus' team. Seriously, if your gonna blame anyone for Versus not being out, blame the team working on it.

I know the Kingdom Hearts team is working on Versus just think the game should be being prioritised now by Square-Enix. I'm not blaming anyone for anything you are the one questioning competancy just saying i hope versus and X HD don't get shelved i am prepared to wait for both as i enjoy the FF games and appreciate the work that goes into them it's just worrying that Versus is taking so long and there seems to be little or no news on it. 'wait in line' was just a poor turn of phrase i was just pointing out a lot of Square Enix games are being released however Versus is nowhere to be seen despite being announced for a while now.