[ray.ray.returns]

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/...its-not-right/

this is just not right. We are being manipulated all the time. That poor singing girl

[ShaunW]

Glad you posted this, because I have been feeling depressed since England lost on penalties, now I live in hope that it was all just theater.

[ftv]

At the Beijing Olympics some of the fireworks were not real but actually superimposed by CGI on the live pictures.

[Pete_uk]

The rotters!

[i4u]

Re the crying woman at Euro 2012....

Uefa have admitted the manipulation, saying they were trying to show “the human story of the game”.

But it wasn't the human story it was fakery.

I can accept putting a celeb or crowd shot a few seconds after it happened but a shot 39mins old from before the match had started is a joke.

[Tassium]

The response of UEFA is just as bizarre.

Uefa has admitted playing with the footage but said it had done so only in an attempt to transmit the full emotional impact of the game on fans, to show "the human story of the game" and "to translate the emotion and tension of German fans".

So when footballers cheat they are just attempting to transmit the full emotional impact of the game?

Apparently dishonesty is fine if in the service of football.

[Tassium]

I wonder how common this is?

There does appear to be a definite increase in the number of dead-on reaction shots in live sporting events.

I can't believe it's only happened this time at this football match.

Watching Wimbledon and it's amazing how many slo-mo crowd reactions of perfect relevance are featured. How did they just happen to be pointing the camera at the exactly right person/persons?

Are live events now fair game for manipulative TV producers?

[i4u]

There's normally one camera free to scan the crowd at sporting events being fed to EVS, which can playout material while still recording.

At wimbledon they usually replay the winning shot followed by a crowd reaction, or in the case of Lendl a still photograph.

[Union Jock]

Originally Posted by ray.ray.returns

That poor singing girl

Has she come to harm?

As for fakery, I'm beginning to wonder if the storm that stopped one of the matches was faked now.

[spiney2]

pretty much everyone who appears on tv wears makeup .......

[ftv]

You do realise Albert Square isn't real and the people are just actors ?

[yorksdave]

I went to a recording of "Millionaire" a couple of years back, they recorded all the audience clapping at the beginning so they could insert tracking shots of the audience during the show and also made the celebrity contestants answer questions again, giving the same answer, because they were unhappy how things came over the first time. All "reality" television is a manipulation of events for dramatic effect.

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by ftv

You do realise Albert Square isn't real and the people are just actors ?

Yes, but the set is a real fake set, and the actors are real actors, not pretend ones!

[GeorgeS]

Originally Posted by i4u

There's normally one camera free to scan the crowd at sporting events being fed to EVS, which can playout material while still recording.

At wimbledon they usually replay the winning shot followed by a crowd reaction, or in the case of Lendl a still photograph.

I was at a 6 Nations this year where the area next to us was the crowd reaction shot location. It was pretty clear that when anything for that side was likely to happen, that they would end up being on tv. So the crowd know it to and act for the tv camera man.

[goodkarma84]

Originally Posted by ftv

At the Beijing Olympics some of the fireworks were not real but actually superimposed by CGI on the live pictures.

hopefully we will do the same

also probably best we CGI the whole of the opening ceremony and our athletes too

didnt they get a little girl to lip synch

[ariusuk]

Originally Posted by Tassium

I wonder how common this is?

There does appear to be a definite increase in the number of dead-on reaction shots in live sporting events.

I can't believe it's only happened this time at this football match.

You're right: this happens all the time... and German TV does it as much as anyone else.

There is a bigger agenda here, which is that ARD/ZDF doesn't like UEFA, and the amount of control it has over TV coverage. And that's why they are making such a big thing about this.

[captham]

Might seem trivial but it is not an accurate representation of something sold as live. Millionare is different, it is a piece of fun, not a live sporting event, besides it is pre-recorded and does not pretent otherwise.

What is particularly shocking is that UEFA was duping all the broadcasters who bought the feed.

[bob.cryer]

Its a crowd shot, lets not go overboard. As long as the pitch action is genuine then all is right with the world.

[Nyota]

I just hate the contempt with which these producers treat their audience. Why do they revel in assuming we're all idiots? It's insulting beyond belief.

[ariusuk]

Originally Posted by captham

Might seem trivial but it is not an accurate representation of something sold as live.

Nobody ever claimed it was live - it was a replay and was played in slow motion, with replay wipes. It was quite obviously not live.

[Sharon87]

Welcome to the world of TV. They use good shots they filmed previously to emphasise what they're trying to portray. Everywhere does it, this isn't a news story. I'm sure there have been other examples which haven't been revealed. Audience reaction shots are just that, audience reaction shots.

[Aaron_Scotland]

Feel sorry if that lady watches it back, I'd be mortified if I was made to look like I was crying at the game vs a patriotic national anthem.