[Mr Teacake]

Imogen was one of the worst type of BB contestant - a complete bore who pretended she was attracted to Sezer for publicity.

[*Topaz*]

Originally Posted by DavetheScot

Not only did he betray his wife not once but twice (and probably more often), he also betrayed his own brother, That takes a real rat. Say what you like about Imogen, but at least she wasn't betraying anyone who loved or trusted her.

That's very true about Ryan but at least he's not made a 'career' out his immorality like Imogen.

Am I looking at the same person when she's described as 'pretty' or very 'beautiful' by the way I mean I know it's in the eye of beholder - but all I see is a very average looking woman with a huge plastic chest who can perhaps look passably attractive when she's glammed up with a lot of make up and nice dress but other than that looks as rough as a badger's arse!

[whydoiwatch]

Originally Posted by *Topaz*

That's very true about Ryan but at least he's not made a 'career' out his immorality like Imogen.

Am I looking at the same person when she's described as 'pretty' or very 'beautiful' by the way I mean I know it's in the eye of beholder - but all I see is a very average looking woman with a huge plastic chest who can perhaps look passably attractive when she's glammed up with a lot of make up and nice dress but other than that looks as rough as a badger's arse!

She's more than passably attractive and she isn't rough as a badger's arse-- that's just silly. I'm a straight woman so it's not like I want to shag her!

[zx50]

Originally Posted by *Topaz*

Am I looking at the same person when she's described as 'pretty' or very 'beautiful' by the way I mean I know it's in the eye of beholder - but all I see is a very average looking woman with a huge plastic chest who can perhaps look passably attractive when she's glammed up with a lot of make up and nice dress but other than that looks as rough as a badger's arse!

People think different people are attractive. It's fine if you don't think she's a good looking woman, but I happen to think she's a very good looking woman.

[*Topaz*]

Originally Posted by whydoiwatch

She's more than passably attractive and she isn't rough as a badger's arse-- that's just silly. I'm a straight woman so it's not like I want to shag her!

Originally Posted by zx50

People think different people are attractive. It's fine if you don't think she's a good looking woman, but I happen to think she's a very good looking woman.

I'm fine with you thinking she's your version of 'attractive' but sorry I stand by version of attractiveness which is based on more than artificial looks and I don't think I'm 'silly' for holding that view or for thinking that without make up and pretty dresses she is quite average and sometimes does look as rough as a badger's arse and that her visible silicone implants are very hideous to look at!

[Joey Boswell]

I dont particularly think Imogen is attractive, but everybody has different opinions.

[HazelKeelan]

To be fair, she looked ok in that video where she is being taken hard by her boyfriend in every position and ending up with a pool of jizz on her belly.

But maybe that was before she had work done?

[plankwalker]

Originally Posted by HazelKeelan

To be fair, she looked ok in that video where she is being taken hard by her boyfriend in every position and ending up with a pool of jizz on her belly.

But maybe that was before she had work done?

Thanks for the Graphics ... perhaps not. I just wonder if she is just a bit simple, especially after being strung along by someone like Ryan Giggs.

By the way, in that video do you think she had a wig on? but maybe I'm getting confused with the Keeley Hazell one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...fair-bald.html

[DavetheScot]

Originally Posted by *Topaz*

That's very true about Ryan but at least he's not made a 'career' out his immorality like Imogen.

Has she, though? Yes, she sold her story. But now she just gets papped in the tabloids. The associated text doesn't usually have her talking about Ryan. It's true she wouldn't get papped if that hadn't happened, but she's making a career out of her looks now; her immorality was only the springboard.

Anyway, if Ryan thought he could gain by exploiting his immorality, I bet he would. He knows he can only lose by doing that, so he doesn't. Hardly makes him morally superior.

[HazelKeelan]

Originally Posted by plankwalker

Thanks for the Graphics ... perhaps not. I just wonder if she is just a bit simple, especially after being strung along by someone like Ryan Giggs.

By the way, in that video do you think she had a wig on? but maybe I'm getting confused with the Keeley Hazell one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...fair-bald.html

Quite possibly, although you would have thought it would have come off, given how hard a shafting she got.

[*Topaz*]

Originally Posted by DavetheScot

Has she, though? Yes, she sold her story. But now she just gets papped in the tabloids. The associated text doesn't usually have her talking about Ryan. It's true she wouldn't get papped if that hadn't happened, but she's making a career out of her looks now; her immorality was only the springboard.

Anyway, if Ryan thought he could gain by exploiting his immorality, I bet he would. He knows he can only lose by doing that, so he doesn't. Hardly makes him morally superior.

Yes imo she has made a media career out of her immorality in allowing herself to be papped....it's the nudge nudge wink wink subtext of her presence in the media which she often plays up to and she would talk about her affair with Ryan more openly at every opportunity if she could because she's always been a talentless nonentity that's latched onto other people's fame ........and I never said Ryan was 'morally superior' - he is much worse than her, a repulsive morally bankrupt berk but he will always be in the media for his talent and achievements and whatever his reasons and self interest in not wanting to profit from his immoral actions - the fact is he hasn't so in that respect he will always come off superior to her, and while she is profiting from her immorality she will always get most of the stick which I won't lose any sleep over particularly when she's provoking much of it and seemingly enjoying the notoriety!

Also to those posters who suggested that Ryan has got off scott free in all this.....it's not true.....he might not get the amount of media slating that Imogen has brought on herself but he's paying the price for his affairs it other ways......apparently he gets taunted on the football pitch for it and if you look at him he looks like he's aged considerably in the last few years.....so either way he's paying the price for his cheap dirty thrills!

[DavetheScot]

Originally Posted by *Topaz*

Yes imo she has made a media career out of her immorality in allowing herself to be papped....it's the nudge nudge wink wink subtext of her presence in the media which she often plays up to and she would talk about her affair with Ryan more openly at every opportunity if she could because she's always been a talentless nonentity that's latched onto other people's fame ........and I never said Ryan was 'morally superior' - he is much worse than her, a repulsive morally bankrupt berk but he will always be in the media for his talent and achievements and whatever his reasons and self interest in not wanting to profit from his immoral actions - the fact is he hasn't so in that respect he will always come off superior to her, and while she is profiting from her immorality she will always get most of the stick which I won't lose any sleep over particularly when she's provoking much of it and seemingly enjoying the notoriety!

I don't think his motives in not exploiting his affair can be so lightly discarded. If his motives are self-serving, how can he be regarded as superior, except to those who want to exonerate him because he can play football and is therefore above all criticism?

[*Topaz*]

Originally Posted by DavetheScot

I don't think his motives in not exploiting his affair can be so lightly discarded. If his motives are self-serving, how can he be regarded as superior, except to those who want to exonerate him because he can play football and is therefore above all criticism?

He hasn't been exonorated - read my 2nd paragraph which you conveniently edited out and even in my 1st paragraph you quoted I didn't exonerate him and I criticised him more harshly than her - he just won't get the amount of media backlash that Imogen has got for exploiting it!

[Blondie X]

Originally Posted by DavetheScot

I don't think his motives in not exploiting his affair can be so lightly discarded. If his motives are self-serving, how can he be regarded as superior, except to those who want to exonerate him because he can play football and is therefore above all criticism?

Sadly there are many of football fans who think because someone plays for the club they support or their country, that they are some sort of superhero and are allowed to behave how they like. However, outside the world of the football fanatics, I do think Ryan Giggs has lost a lot of respect from the general gbp. He was always thought of as one of the good guys whereas now most people think he's a total sleeze and a scumbag.

[HazelKeelan]

Originally Posted by Joey Boswell

I dont particularly think Imogen is attractive, but everybody has different opinions.

She isn't that attractive but she is a dirty girl and takes a good shafting, which are commendable redeeming features.

[Beautiful_Harv]

Originally Posted by HazelKeelan

She isn't that attractive but she is a dirty girl and takes a good shafting, which are commendable redeeming features.

Sorry, i know i shouldnt laugh but

[DavetheScot]

Originally Posted by *Topaz*

He hasn't been exonorated - read my 2nd paragraph which you conveniently edited out and even in my 1st paragraph you quoted I didn't exonerate him and I criticised him more harshly than her - he just won't get the amount of media backlash that Imogen has got for exploiting it!

My comment is not so much directed against you - as you say, you've been quite plain that he's as bad as Imogen or worse. What I'm saying is that those who do exonerate him or who regard him as less culpably because he isn't trying to exploit the affair are wrong. I accept you are not one of that band.

[seansnotmyname@]

Originally Posted by DavetheScot

My comment is not so much directed against you - as you say, you've been quite plain that he's as bad as Imogen or worse. What I'm saying is that those who do exonerate him or who regard him as less culpably because he isn't trying to exploit the affair are wrong. I accept you are not one of that band.

These people seem entirely fictional to me. She's bad, he's worse.

[DavetheScot]

Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@

These people seem entirely fictional to me. She's bad, he's worse.

Would that they were fictional.