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Old 20-08-2013, 18:42
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Team Rock is now available on Apple iTunes Radio, whether that's what John Myres tweeted about I don't know but if it is it doesn't seem that big a deal.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:50
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Team Rock is moving into country music with a new radio show and magazine:

http://radiotoday.co.uk/2013/09/team...ew-radio-show/

Shame John Myers isn't hosting the show
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Old 06-09-2013, 10:23
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Bit of a train crash with the rest of TeamRocks output?
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:19
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Team Rock is moving into country music with a new radio show and magazine:

http://radiotoday.co.uk/2013/09/team...ew-radio-show/

Shame John Myers isn't hosting the show
Country music on a rock station - that must be the worst radio idea ever!
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:31
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Country music on a rock station - that must be the worst radio idea ever!
Careful - Dont criticise them for having non-rock music on a rock music radio station. I did that and was told I was wrong on here for it....

"TeamRock’s Head of Radio, Moose, said: “TeamRock Radio’s goal is to represent all genres of rock and country music is a massive beast that is generally ignored by UK commercial radio."

There is a reason for this - it never works...never has, never will. (and im typing this as a massive country fan)

Didnt know country like Dolly Parton, Kacey Musgraves and Leann Rimes (all quoted in article) were classed as a genre of rock?

The changeover at 4 could stand out like a sort thumb! "That was Slayer and coming up next, Coat of Many Colors"
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:47
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There is a reason for this - it never works...never has, never will. (and im typing this as a massive country fan)

The changeover at 4 could stand out like a sort thumb!
For an even bigger sore thumb does anyone remember the excellent Gerald Harper's 'Champagne & Roses'... but on talkSPORT!!!!
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Old 06-09-2013, 13:12
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For an even bigger sore thumb does anyone remember the excellent Gerald Harper's 'Champagne & Roses'... but on talkSPORT!!!!
No I don't. What sort of show was it?
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Old 06-09-2013, 14:25
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It was a music show broadcast on a Saturday night after their football phone-in playing the likes of Nat King Cole and Frank Sinatra. It didn't last very long.
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Old 06-09-2013, 15:19
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It was a music show broadcast on a Saturday night after their football phone-in playing the likes of Nat King Cole and Frank Sinatra. It didn't last very long.
Very odd programming for an otherwise all speech station

(from the top of my head, the licence did allow up to 10% of teir output to be music programming, but I didn't realise they took advantage of that)
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Old 06-09-2013, 15:24
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I believe their licence was amended to include the extra music programme.
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Old 06-09-2013, 15:43
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For an even bigger sore thumb does anyone remember the excellent Gerald Harper's 'Champagne & Roses'... but on talkSPORT!!!!
Ah Yes ....I remember it well I think I remember reading it was a favourite of the Talksport boss,in its previous incarnation as Gerald Harper's Sunday Affair on Capital in the 70's
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Old 06-09-2013, 16:22
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Careful - Dont criticise them for having non-rock music on a rock music radio station. I did that and was told I was wrong on here for it....

"TeamRock’s Head of Radio, Moose, said: “TeamRock Radio’s goal is to represent all genres of rock and country music is a massive beast that is generally ignored by UK commercial radio."

There is a reason for this - it never works...never has, never will. (and im typing this as a massive country fan)

Didnt know country like Dolly Parton, Kacey Musgraves and Leann Rimes (all quoted in article) were classed as a genre of rock?

The changeover at 4 could stand out like a sort thumb! "That was Slayer and coming up next, Coat of Many Colors"
Sometimes you can mix genres. Classical music fits very well into a rock format, for example.

But Country - I suppose it's possible that there is some Blues with a rock beat that Country fans may also appreciate, but beyond that I woud say they are two very distinct styles that do not mix.
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Old 06-09-2013, 16:58
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Cannot see bauer keeping absolute planet rock & kerrang ??
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Old 06-09-2013, 17:16
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Sometimes you can mix genres. Classical music fits very well into a rock format, for example.

But Country - I suppose it's possible that there is some Blues with a rock beat that Country fans may also appreciate, but beyond that I woud say they are two very distinct styles that do not mix.
I disagree - country can and does mix with rock quite often but not the 'Dolly Parton' type of country. If you look at artists like Cash, Willie, Waylon or (for example) the texas red dirt scene - artists like Cross Canadian Ragweed, Reckless Kelly , Bleu Edmonson etc which mix quite well with rock fans. Its all down to choice of material really.

From wiki - "Rock music influence in country also has become more overt during the late 2000s and early 2010s as artists like Eric Church, Jason Aldean, and Brantley Gilbert have had success; Aaron Lewis, former frontman for the rock group Staind, had a moderately successful entry into country music in 2011 and 2012"

But i retain my belief that country on commerical radio here will not work. There isnt the demand here due to the way the UK media has portrayed country music previously as being all 'ten gallon hats', line dancing and hay bales. The phrase "country music" is tainted over here.. Quite a lot of Billboard country would fit in quite well on stations like Heart but as soon as the words country are uttered it gets responses like "Yee-ha" and references to Achy Breaky Heart.
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Old 06-09-2013, 19:14
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There's a fair bit of alternative country, that would fit in nicely on a rock station. Things like the Drive By Truckers, Wilco, The Reverend Horton Heat have a good crossover audience. Not to mention some of the 70s&80s stuff like Jason & The Scorchers, The Outlaws, The Allman Brothers and many of the Southern Rock acts who'd slot in nicely on a country show. Even down to the likes of Hayseed Dixie who made their name playing coutrified versions of AC/DC songs. Many of the "new country" stars that cropped up in the 90s and beyond have a far more informed by rock than the highly polished Nashville sounds of the mid 60s as well. There's definitely room for it on a rock station if it's done without making a joke of it.
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Old 06-09-2013, 21:01
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I disagree - country can and does mix with rock quite often but not the 'Dolly Parton' type of country. If you look at artists like Cash, Willie, Waylon or (for example) the texas red dirt scene - artists like Cross Canadian Ragweed, Reckless Kelly , Bleu Edmonson etc which mix quite well with rock fans. Its all down to choice of material really.

From wiki - "Rock music influence in country also has become more overt during the late 2000s and early 2010s as artists like Eric Church, Jason Aldean, and Brantley Gilbert have had success; Aaron Lewis, former frontman for the rock group Staind, had a moderately successful entry into country music in 2011 and 2012"

But i retain my belief that country on commerical radio here will not work. There isnt the demand here due to the way the UK media has portrayed country music previously as being all 'ten gallon hats', line dancing and hay bales. The phrase "country music" is tainted over here.. Quite a lot of Billboard country would fit in quite well on stations like Heart but as soon as the words country are uttered it gets responses like "Yee-ha" and references to Achy Breaky Heart.
Well I said Blues with a decent rock beat may be the only crossover. The Cross Canadian Ragweed track you posted is a superb piece of rock. If anyone wants to claim that's country, and have a show with that sort of music, then carry on. Ditto Eric Church.

The Bleu Edmonson track sounds pure rock to me! Ditto Jason Aldean. Are you sure anyone considers those tracks country music?

The Reckless Kelly track sounds more like the sort of country that rock fans have their own station to avoid!

The Brantley Gilbert track proves your point - the songwriter appears to think he's written a country song - but that song again is an excellent rock song.

The Aaron Lewis track was a great piece of rock in the mould of Nickelback. Incidentally, wiki says "Aaron Lewis (born April 13, 1972) is an American musician, who is the lead vocalist, rhythm guitarist, and founding member of the rock group Staind"

Thanks for those tracks, most of them were fantastic rock songs! If someone wants to call them country and create a country show around them - fantastic!
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:00
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For an even bigger sore thumb does anyone remember the excellent Gerald Harper's 'Champagne & Roses'... but on talkSPORT!!!!
It replaced their wrestling programme if I remember correctly.
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:43
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Cannot see bauer keeping absolute planet rock & kerrang ??
They are two distinct station sounds though - if Bauer didn't already own the Kerrang! brand I'd imagine Kerrang! would be Absolute Xtreme or similar before long. That being said I can't see Absolute Radio, Abs 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, CR, Magic AM, Planet Rock, and Kerrang! all staying around though - Abs CR being the most obvious target.

These spin offs do appear to be working and are able to broaden the available programming while staying connected to the brand (see also Kisstory, 1xtra, Radio 4 Extra, Smooth 70s, Absolute 80s)
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:38
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Team Rock is moving into country music with a new radio show and magazine:

http://radiotoday.co.uk/2013/09/team...ew-radio-show/

Shame John Myers isn't hosting the show
The radio programme (which is in the timeslot that used to be used for the country show on Smooth) backs the new magazine which might bring in a new readership and more income for the group?
Content will largely reflect the content of the magazine, playing the songs by the artists interviewed each quarter.
http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/n...usic-magazine/
The magazine name is actually "Classic Rock Presents Country Music Magazine".
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Old 07-09-2013, 14:28
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Well I said Blues with a decent rock beat may be the only crossover. The Cross Canadian Ragweed track you posted is a superb piece of rock. If anyone wants to claim that's country, and have a show with that sort of music, then carry on. Ditto Eric Church.

The Bleu Edmonson track sounds pure rock to me! Ditto Jason Aldean. Are you sure anyone considers those tracks country music?

The Reckless Kelly track sounds more like the sort of country that rock fans have their own station to avoid!

The Brantley Gilbert track proves your point - the songwriter appears to think he's written a country song - but that song again is an excellent rock song.

The Aaron Lewis track was a great piece of rock in the mould of Nickelback. Incidentally, wiki says "Aaron Lewis (born April 13, 1972) is an American musician, who is the lead vocalist, rhythm guitarist, and founding member of the rock group Staind"

Thanks for those tracks, most of them were fantastic rock songs! If someone wants to call them country and create a country show around them - fantastic!
This is exactly my point....

You say country over here and people think its all Tammy Wynette, Billy Ray Cyrus and The Woolpackers.

People are happy to accept that dance music has evolved over the years and has lots of different variants - house, d&b, commercial etc

They are happy to accept that rock has evolved over the years and has lots of different variants - melodic rock, thrash, metal, modern rock etc

Yet you say Country and people naturally think of the commercial type - they arent prepared to believe/accept that there are other types of country - Bluegrass, Alt. Country/Americana, Texas Country, Country-Rock. Not all country comes from Nashville... All those artists I named come under the banner of Country. Eric Church and Jason Aldean are regularly in the Billboard Country Charts and played on country radio. You tune into a texas country station (eg KHYI - The Range) and you will hear the others - Cross Canadian Ragweed etc

I strongly believe that if the presenter prior to the Country show on TeamRock says "coming up next - its the country show" - the majority will switch over to Kerrang or Planet Rock sharpish having the view that its all Taylor Swift and Shania Twain...

Im a country fan and regularly get bought Bolo Ties etc for birthdays and Christmas.

Its this country's perception of country thats wrong, not the music, and until that changes (which the media seems to want to hang on to - asking country artists when interviewed "you don't wear a cowboy hat?") it will never succeed on commercial radio in the UK.

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Old 07-09-2013, 14:37
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Incidentally, wiki says "Aaron Lewis (born April 13, 1972) is an American musician, who is the lead vocalist, rhythm guitarist, and founding member of the rock group Staind"
Yes Aaron Lewis was the lead vocalist of the rock group Staind but If you are quoting wiki as for proof and read further down then it also says

"In July 2010, Lewis finished recording a country music EP entitled Town Line that was released March 1, 2011 on Stroudavarious Records. It features seven tracks including three versions of the first single "Country Boy" featuring George Jones, Charlie Daniels, and Chris Young, as well as the songs "Massachusetts", "Vicious Circles", "The Story Never Ends", and a re-recording of "Tangled Up in You" originally from The Illusion of Progress.[5] Lewis said in a July 2011 interview that he was introduced to country music as a child by his grandfather, but his interest was recently rekindled when he toured with Kid Rock.[6]

Lewis released his first full solo album, The Road, in November 2012. Its debut single, "Endless Summer", has also made the country charts."

(IIRC the reason for the 3 versions were cuts for language/drug references etc for radio)
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Old 07-09-2013, 15:11
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If anyone wants to claim that's country, and have a show with that sort of music, then carry on. Ditto Eric Church.

Ditto Jason Aldean. Are you sure anyone considers those tracks country music?
The Eric Church performance is from the Academy of Country Music awards and the Jason Aldean performance is from the CMA (Country Music Association) Music Festival.

So im quite sure thanks - the country music industry also agrees.
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Old 07-09-2013, 21:07
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Well you've sold it to me, Steve. I withdraw my original comment. I'd like to hear that show!

Looking at their schedule the Country Show seems to be on Sunday pm 4 - 6. Unfortunately that clashes with a couple of retro chart shows. I can't find a listen again feature for Team Rock, which is a shame.

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Old 07-09-2013, 21:12
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I imagine it will be on the On Demand page.

http://www.teamrockradio.com/on-demand
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Old 07-09-2013, 21:37
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I imagine it will be on the On Demand page.

http://www.teamrockradio.com/on-demand
I didn't notice that rather large menu item! TBF I'm used to listen again being part of the listen now section.

Anyway, thanks.
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