[guffybear]

Originally Posted by Apple_Crumble

I'm not keen on bullies in nightclub toilets.

Nor was Cheryl

[Unigal07]

Originally Posted by Gneiss

Toy dogs, eating disorders, sex addiction, psychotherapy, cyber bullying just one in a long line of "celeb fashions"...

... quite pathetic really.

This.

Cheryl can dish it out but she can't take it.

She said one time that she would never join Twitter because she didn't get why people want to tell everyone what they're doing and what they're thinking all the time and that it was weird. Then she realised she could get a few column inches and joined. Block the abusers or shut up whining. Every celebrity gets it. Deal with it or get off Twitter FFS.

[zx50]

Originally Posted by guffybear

Nor was Cheryl

It could have been that lass that was hassling Cheryl in the toilet. We don't know.

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by Unigal07

This.

Cheryl can dish it out but she can't take it.

She said one time that she would never join Twitter because she didn't get why people want to tell everyone what they're doing and what they're thinking all the time and that it was weird. Then she realised she could get a few column inches and joined. Block the abusers or shut up whining. Every celebrity gets it. Deal with it or get off Twitter FFS.

Who does Cheryl cyber bully then?

[Chip Popple]

Another revolting site for vile comments is the Daily Mail comments section - some of the things said about Christine Bleakley are evil.

[zx50]

Originally Posted by Chip Popple

Who does Cheryl cyber bully then?

No-one. I suspect the toilet incident is being hinted at again.

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by zx50

No-one. I suspect the toilet incident is being hinted at again.

So predictable eh. Like I said in a previous thread, the captain of England punched a DJ in the face causing an injury, that never gets mentioned though

Then you have the captain of Chelsea, in court today for racially abusing an opponent - he played for his country too.

[Tiki - Taka]

Originally Posted by Chip Popple

So predictable eh. Like I said in a previous thread, the captain of England punched a DJ in the face causing an injury, that never gets mentioned though

Then you have the captain of Chelsea, in court today for racially abusing an opponent - he played for his country too.

It does actually.. On football forums.

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by Tiki - Taka

It does actually.. On football forums.

And I'll mention it on the showbiz forum because it's relevant to the point I'm making.

Steven Gerrard is not just a footballer, he's a celebrity.

[zx50]

Originally Posted by Chip Popple

So predictable eh. Like I said in a previous thread, the captain of England punched a DJ in the face causing an injury, that never gets mentioned though

Then you have the captain of Chelsea, in court today for racially abusing an opponent - he played for his country too.

Only certain incidents get repeated because the celebrity is disliked by some on here.

[Tiki - Taka]

Originally Posted by Chip Popple

And I'll mention it on the showbiz forum because it's relevant to the point I'm making.

Steven Gerrard is not just a footballer, he's a celebrity.

Fair enough... But he's not really a celebrity in the same sense as Cheryl..

Cheryl is a celebrity first and foremost, and a singer secondly.
Gerrard is a footballer first and foremost, and a celebrity secondly. For every story written about Gerrard's private life there are 20 about Cheryl's.

Nobody talks about Gerrard - Period... So ofcourse nobody will bring it up often.

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by Tiki - Taka

Fair enough... But he's not really a celebrity in the same sense as Cheryl..

Cheryl is a celebrity first and foremost, and a singer secondly.
Gerrard is a footballer first and foremost, and a celebrity secondly. For every story written about Gerrard's private life there are 20 for Cheryl.

Nobody talks about Gerrard period... So ofcourse nobody will bring it up often.

He still smacked someone in the face, like Cheryl did. Difference is he got away with it - at least the latter was punished.

And he is a celebrity, his wife has made a career out of being his wife - there is an article about him on holiday in today's Daily Mail.

[Unigal07]

Originally Posted by Tiki - Taka

It does actually.. On football forums.

It does indeed. I've seen it mentioned loads of times on here (in the Football forum, naturally, since Steven Gerrard is a footballer and not a celebrity).

And Steven Gerrard isn't on Twitter or Facebook courting publicity and moaning about people being meanies to him!

[Tiki - Taka]

Originally Posted by Chip Popple

He still smacked someone in the face, like Cheryl did. Difference is he got away with it - at least the latter was punished.

Yes, he smacked someone in the face, but he isn't really a celebrity figure like Cheryl, so of course people won't be as bothered.

In the same way a complete unknown would have gotten much less press and abuse than Gerrard did. The bigger you are - the more you'll get whipped for it.
Obviously Cheryl is disliked alot more (Everybody has an opinion on Cheryl... Only United, Chelsea and Everton fans care about Gerrard's private life).

I think this all gets brought up so often because she likes to play the 'victim' card. People are just reminding her that she isn't (wasn't) always so sweet herself.

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by Tiki - Taka

He smacked someone in the face, but he isn't a celebrity figure like Cheryl, so of course people won't be as bothered.

In the same way a complete unknown would get less press and abuse than Gerrard did. The bigger you are - the more you'll be whipped for it.

Cheryl is disliked alot more. I think this all gets brought up so often because she likes to play the 'victim' card. People are just reminding her that she isn't (wasn't) always so sweet herself.

Gerrard just represented his country in Euro 2012? That's pretty big isn't it? It's pretty massive tbh.

Makes me laugh that Gerrard smacking someone isn't quite as bad because he 'isn't that much of a celebrity' - ridiculous tbh.

So is Cheryl more of a racist than John Terry? Even though we pretty much captured what he said to Ferdinand on You Tube?

[Canks]

I am a Cheryl fan but I don't believe most celebs get cyber bullied in the same way a teenage girl, for example, can get bullied on Facebook. There is a difference in being randomly abused then being systamatical bullying. It does not have the same effect and impact. Victims of real bullying, and I do call them victims a word I would not apply to Cheryl or Eamonn Holmes, can have long lasting problems. Still love Cheryl just wish the word " bully" wasn't used so carelessly .

[mary patricia]

Originally Posted by Chip Popple

Gerrard just represented his country in Euro 2012? That's pretty big isn't it? It's pretty massive tbh.

Makes me laugh that Gerrard smacking someone isn't quite as bad because he 'isn't that much of a celebrity' - ridiculous tbh.

The poster never said that Gerrard smacking someone isn't quite as bad, just that it isn't mentioned quite so much on here because he's not mentioned on here much. I bet Cheryl's assault isn't discussed on football forums.

[Tiki - Taka]

Originally Posted by Chip Popple

Gerrard just represented his country in Euro 2012? That's pretty big isn't it? It's pretty massive tbh.

Makes me laugh that Gerrard smacking someone isn't quite as bad because he 'isn't that much of a celebrity' - ridiculous tbh.

I'm actually surprised you're suprised.

Don't you think if Glen Johnson (for example) had done what Gerrard did it would be less of a deal to people?
I'd know I'd be less likely to start a conversation about it with a girl or my mum (because they wouldn't have a clue who he is.)
Whereas - If it was Rooney, it would have been twice as big a deal.

Gerrard is famous, but not in a celebrity sense... He has had few private-life controversies throughout his career..

His wife is almost as well known with the "Hello Magazine" crowd as he is.

What he did is as bad as what Cheryl did, but it's not as "important" to people. Gerrard hardly belongs in the showbiz section.

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by Tiki - Taka

I'm actually surprised you're suprised.

Don't you think if Glen Johnson (for example) had done what Gerrard did it would be less of a deal?
I'd be less likely to start a conversation about it with a girl or my mum (because they wouldn't have a clue who he is.)
Whereas - If it was Rooney, it would be twice as big a deal.

Gerrard is famous, but not in a celebrtity sense... He has had few private-life controversies throughout his career..
His wife is probably as well known with the "Hello Magazine" crowd as he is.

Yet they sold their wedding to OK magazine?

Not forgetting this http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&...9,r:0,s:0,i:73

Why would it be twice as big a deal if it was Rooney?

[Unigal07]

Originally Posted by Tiki - Taka

I'm actually surprised you're suprised.

Don't you think if Glen Johnson (for example) had done what Gerrard did it would be less of a deal to people?
I'd know I'd be less likely to start a conversation about it with a girl or my mum (because they wouldn't have a clue who he is.)
Whereas - If it was Rooney, it would have been twice as big a deal.

Gerrard is famous, but not in a celebrity sense... He has had few private-life controversies throughout his career..

His wife is almost as well known with the "Hello Magazine" crowd as he is.

What he did is as bad a Cheryl, but not as "important" to people. Gerrard hardly belongs in the showbiz section.

Cheryl fans have huge chips on their shoulders. They can't bear seeing their highness being slagged off so they scrape the bottom of the barrel to make her look less bad. Moaning that Gerrard isn't slagged off a lot in the Showbiz forum really does take the biscuit though

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by Unigal07

Cheryl fans have huge chips on their shoulders. They can't bear seeing their highness being slagged off so they scrape the bottom of the barrel to make her look less bad. Moaning that Gerrard isn't slagged off a lot in the Showbiz forum really does take the biscuit though

Poor comment, that's not the point at all Unigal.

There was no need for this thread to degenerate into something nasty, whether you like her or not, she is trying to help young people deal with cyber bullying, The likes of yourself and others have chosen to post negative comments.

I could accuse you of having a massive chip on your shoulder, I mean, I'm slagging off your beloved Stevie G - works both ways.

[Nyota]

It's got to the stage where I roll my eye when a celeb says they're being bullied. The meaning of the word "bullying" has been watered down so much thanks to morons like Fearne Cotton. It's pathetic.

[KieranDS]

Originally Posted by Zack06

She makes it sound like she's the only celebrity to get abuse etc etc....All celebrities are going to get abuse, she chose to put herself out there, so she shouldn't really be acting so attacked, it's the nature of her job.

There are some celebrities that are subjected to far far worse such as death threats etc, and they don't act like this. People are going to judge her, so she should have been prepared for that as every celebrity should.

Well she has been subject to death threats because the police and X Factor producers investigated comments that were on Twitter and circulating through BBM.

There was also another case where someone left a voicemail on Dermot O'Learys phone threatening to rape her which the police investigated and the man was later arrested.
http://news.sky.com/story/767515/che...-dermots-phone

That's about as serious as it gets.

[Chocolate orang]

Does she ever stop playing the victim? Oh wait, I see she is trying to publicise her charity that she has practically nothing to do with. That explains it then.

[Tiki - Taka]

Originally Posted by Chip Popple

Yet they sold their wedding to OK magazine?

Not forgetting this http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?

Why would it be twice as big a deal if it was Rooney?

Because he's Rooney...

People want to see Rooney slip up.
People want to laugh at Rooney.
Papers sell more papers with Rooney.
Rooney is more well known than Gerrard.
He is a bigger name in football and celebrity culture.


Anyway.... Cheryl being cyber bullied is a case of her being victim of her own fame and success.

The bigger you are the more people that will hate you.
She had her time when it was cool and fashionable for guys to fancy her and for girls to want to be like her... Now it's just as cool to hate her guts. She's one of the Uk's very biggest celebrities and that's how the cookie crumbles up there.

She's also seen as someone very vulnerable, easily bruised and easy to rattle. Whereas other females would just give abuse back and or take it on the chin.

The more she lets the world know the bullies hurt her, the more it will happen. Due to the "internet hardman" generation it's very easy for people to jump on the bandwagon, whilst being anonymous.