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Old 10-07-2012, 23:34   #26
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'all the best with your new family just seen you bought sh** I meant adopted a child from Africa'

Really? It's a sad world if you think these kinds of comments are acceptable, particularly from a member of the Armed Forces.

It's a disgrace and Lily had every right to report him. I'm not the one here with something to get over....
I take back what I now said

Though it probably wasn't worth reporting him to the MOD, she should have just reported it to Twitter and have done with it

Bad taste or not, it was obviously in a mocking fashion
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:37   #27
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Surely that IS a racist comment. Comparing a child in Africa to "sh**"? Or am I missing something?
Yes, you clearly missed the rest of the OP's post, which made the tweet make sense.

It wasn't remotely racist. It just lacked punctuation. It was mocking her for being another rich celebrity who "bought" an African baby.
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:40   #28
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I thought the same too, so confused as to how it's not racist
I think it's being said that he's saying shit himself, as in, he has put his foot in it by saying "bought" instead of "adopted".

I don't think he is referring to an African baby as shit, the sentence could read;

Hey lily, just seen you bought, shit, I mean adopted an African child.

If that makes sense, it seems fairly obvious it's meant in that way to me, shame she didn't stop and think before running off and reporting him.
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:40   #29
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OP whether the tweet was how it read, or how you thought it should have read its still wrong. Why people feel the need to tweet celebrities abuse on any aspect of their lives is beyond me? Why bother? What do they hope to achieve? Only misery!

I once called Cher Lloyd a "Fart" on Twitter. I didn't '@' her in the comment... But I had a load of her fans abuse me for it. I only called the lass a fart, but since then I refuse to call people names on Twitter unless someone has obviously done something sick and wrong.
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:40   #30
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Yes, you clearly missed the rest of the OP's post, which made the tweet make sense.

It wasn't remotely racist. It just lacked punctuation. It was mocking her for being another rich celebrity who "bought" an African baby.
Or clearly that was the OP's opinion. I still saw no one say "If it was racist". Just a lot of abuse for Lily.
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:41   #31
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I think it's being said that he's saying shit himself, as in, he has put his foot in it by saying "bought" instead of "adopted".

I don't think he is referring to an African baby as shit, the sentence could read;

Hey lily, just seen you bought, shit, I mean adopted an African child.

If that makes sense, it seems fairly obvious it's meant in that way to me, shame she didn't stop and think before running off and reporting him.

I totally agree.
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:44   #32
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I genuinely don't think this was racism. I think that, as the OP suggested, its just a case of bad grammar:

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I believe the original tweet was missing punctuation and should have read 'Just seen you bought - sh** - I meant, adopted a child from Africa'. If anything he's mocking celebrities who use their riches and fame to fast-track adoptions from the third world.
His comment makes much more sense that way. If he were being racist then he wouldn't have switched between 'bought' and 'adopted'. He would have just said "I heard you adopted shit, I mean adopted a child, from Africa".

Edit: What kingjeremy just said, basically.
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:45   #33
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What bad about reporting racism?!
I don't like people reporting each other in general. We used to be able to deal with offensive things without the need to get a third party to intervene. Are we adults, or toddlers in a nursery school?
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:45   #34
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I once called Cher Lloyd a "Fart" on Twitter.
Why on earth would you call someone a "fart"? I've never heard anyone call someone else a "fart". It makes no sense whatsoever. A fart is a noise, so it's like calling someone a "cough" or a "hiccup".
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:48   #35
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I don't like people reporting each other in general. We used to be able to deal with offensive things without the need to get a third party to intervene. Are we adults, or toddlers in a nursery school?
So you don't agree with reporting a crime?!
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:50   #36
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If Lily was offended by the comment.. She has every right to make a complaint to whom ever she feels is the right person .. We don't know how he ment to tweet his sentence and he should be asked to explain himself. If it was an innocent " hey Lily,I see you just bought , shit ,adopted a baby.." ( I know I've not written word for word) then he didn't mean it racially but oops I made a mistake .. But I still don't understand why people need to be targeted in this way by nasty people with to much time on their hands
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:53   #37
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Or clearly that was the OP's opinion.
It makes perfect sense and reporting it has just made Lilly Allen look very stupid.
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:54   #38
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So you don't agree with reporting a crime?!
Never said that, did I?

I'm talking about people reporting each other over internet rubbish.

There's such a big difference between someone spouting a load of crap on the internet just because they can, and real hate crime, in my opinion.
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:57   #39
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If Lily was offended by the comment.. She has every right to make a complaint to whom ever she feels is the right person .. We don't know how he ment to tweet his sentence and he should be asked to explain himself. If it was an innocent " hey Lily,I see you just bought , shit ,adopted a baby.." ( I know I've not written word for word) then he didn't mean it racially but oops I made a mistake .. But I still don't understand why people need to be targeted in this way by nasty people with to much time on their hands
She has complained to the MoD because someone made a very light joke about a baby she didn't adopt, which no sensible person would interpret as 'racism'. If someone called me a **** in the middle of the street, as a rational person my first thought would not be to report it at my local police station. Twitter is no different.
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Old 11-07-2012, 00:00   #40
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Never said that, did I?

I'm talking about people reporting each other over internet rubbish.

There's such a big difference between someone spouting a load of crap on the internet just because they can, and real hate crime, in my opinion.
Well you obviously don't agree with reporting this case of racism (I am taking it how he has written it), which is a crime.

How do you distinguish between crap on the internet (directed at someone specific) and a real hate crime?
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Old 11-07-2012, 00:01   #41
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I think it's being said that he's saying shit himself, as in, he has put his foot in it by saying "bought" instead of "adopted".

I don't think he is referring to an African baby as shit, the sentence could read;

Hey lily, just seen you bought, shit, I mean adopted an African child.

If that makes sense, it seems fairly obvious it's meant in that way to me, shame she didn't stop and think before running off and reporting him.
Then it might have looked the way he had intended it to look if he had used commas like you have.
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Old 11-07-2012, 00:02   #42
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Well you obviously don't agree with reporting this case of racism (I am taking it how he has written it), which is a crime.

How do you distinguish between crap on the internet (directed at someone specific) and a real hate crime?
If it was racist (which it clearly wasn't) then who has the actual racism been directed at? A child who does not exist.
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Old 11-07-2012, 00:04   #43
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Never said that, did I?

I'm talking about people reporting each other over internet rubbish.

There's such a big difference between someone spouting a load of crap on the internet just because they can, and real hate crime, in my opinion.
Well if someone is able to spurt crap overt the internet, they are able to understand what they are doing, so they deserve to be treated the same as someone who does it in real life.

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It makes perfect sense and reporting it has just made Lilly Allen look very stupid.
Nope. If she interpreted it as others did because of the piss poor punctuation, she did the right thing. Maybe he will learn to make sense or not post at all.
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Old 11-07-2012, 00:05   #44
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I read it the racist way too. Even with the punctuation it's still an unpleasant comment and the whole campaign is completely moronic. So she was right to report him, I thought he was being racist too and that kind of public behaviour isn't acceptable from a soldier.

I can't believe people are condemning her for reacting. The whole tweeting campaign was done to get a rise out of her. Good for you Lily.
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Old 11-07-2012, 00:06   #45
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Well you obviously don't agree with reporting this case of racism (I am taking it how he has written it), which is a crime.

How do you distinguish between crap on the internet (directed at someone specific) and a real hate crime?
I can tell right now we're going to have to agree to disagree when it comes to our opinions on when it comes to reporting people.
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Old 11-07-2012, 00:06   #46
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If it was racist (which it clearly wasn't) then who has the actual racism been directed at? A child who does not exist.
Does racism have to be directed at someone to be racist?

In my opinion written the way it is, it is racist. He may have written it incorrectly but then again he may have not, racism does still happen and people aren't as embracing and can still say/do racist things.
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Old 11-07-2012, 00:06   #47
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I think it's being said that he's saying shit himself, as in, he has put his foot in it by saying "bought" instead of "adopted".

I don't think he is referring to an African baby as shit, the sentence could read;

Hey lily, just seen you bought, shit, I mean adopted an African child.

If that makes sense, it seems fairly obvious it's meant in that way to me, shame she didn't stop and think before running off and reporting him.
That's how I read it too.

I thought it was a bit risky to tease her about babies given her history anyway, it wasn't racist but she is touchy. No one likes a snitch.
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Old 11-07-2012, 00:06   #48
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Well if someone is able to spurt crap overt the internet, they are able to understand what they are doing, so they deserve to be treated the same as someone who does it in real life.


Nope. If she interpreted it as others did because of the piss poor punctuation, she did the right thing. Maybe he will learn to make sense or not post at all.


There is a massive difference in someone 'spurting crap over the internet' and someone making a racist comment - someone's career should not be wrecked because of a misjudged remark.
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Old 11-07-2012, 00:07   #49
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She has complained to the MoD because someone made a very light joke about a baby she didn't adopt, which no sensible person would interpret as 'racism'. If someone called me a **** in the middle of the street, as a rational person my first thought would not be to report it at my local police station. Twitter is no different.
And that's your choice.. Lily has a right to make her own choices in how she deals with something and I have no right into telling her she is wrong. If you read my post I agreed with the OP that it looked ok to me.
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I can tell right now we're going to have to agree to disagree when it comes to our opinions on when it comes to reporting people.
I think we will have to agree to disagree here, I firmly believe in reporting a crime.

Someone shouted a racist comment at me a few years ago and I didn't report it then because I was shocked that it actually happened, but I do wish had reported it now.
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