[.Joe.]

Originally Posted by unclekevo

I don't like how because he's a soldier people automatically assume that makes up for inappropriate behaviour, regardless of whether his intentions were innocent or not, what he wrote WAS offensive and he has to take responsibility for his actions.

Totally agree with this.

[Sloopy]

Originally Posted by Nyota

I cannot stand this whole "report everybody" culture that seems to have crept up on us recently. Very sinister indeed.

I agree.

There is a lot of stupidity and venom on Twitter, but I don't think so much time and resources should be spent on making them into matters for the police. If they did, then they would be having to investigate every day of the week.

They are still, essentially, just words on a computer screen, written by mainly moronic, barely literate idiots. All Twitter has done is given them a platform to spout this rubbish.

[Babycakes15]

It was a racist remark. Seeing as he wrote it, it wouldn't have been a punctuation error or whatever as he would have pressed delete instead of writing a word. Man is obviously an idiot, maybe if more people took racism seriously people wouldn't joke about it

[f_196]

One of the quirks of the English language, one bit of punctuation can be the difference between a mild insult and racism.

For example:

Let's eat Julie.

Let's eat, Julie.

One bit of punctuation makes all the difference! You can be eating with Julie or actually eating her

[Jason C]

Things like this serve to illustrate, at least to me, what a dreadful invention Twitter was.

[Chip Popple]

Seems like she's back-tracking, this was her tweet a few minutes ago

no, his fault for mis- writing more like! IF that's the case, and if it is, then I'm sure his superiors will understand.

Big word IF Lily - she's made a fool of herself imo.

[SarahJam]

She had also replied to someone yesterday saying something like 'If he has an explanation, he will be fine'.

And if he does then his job should be safe.

How is that back tracking, most of us who think that what he said was racist have said that IF it turns out that it was his foolish attempt at being funny and miss punctuation it is not racist, I said this in my first post.

Still agree with her - His fault for not punctuating properly if it is a mistake.

You can't just go about thinking someone has mis-spelt or mis pronounced something all your life, racism does still happens! And it partly still happens because people have this attitude of 'oh they must not have meant it like that'...

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by SarahJam

She had also replied to someone yesterday saying something like 'If he has an explanation, he will be fine'.

And if he does then his job should be safe.

How is that back tracking, most of us who think that what he said was racist have said that IF it turns out that it was his foolish attempt at being funny and miss punctuation it is not racist, I said this in my first post.

Still agree with her - His fault for not punctuating properly if it is a mistake.

You can't just go about thinking someone has mis-spelt or mis pronounced something all your life, racism does still happens! And it partly still happens because people have this attitude of 'oh they must not have meant it like that'...

I detest racism in any shape or form, but there is a massive difference between someone having bad punctuation and posting a racist comment. This boy's career could be over, bloody big mistake if it is.

Lily continuting to publicly argue with people who have verbally attacked her is just making this worse - why rise to it? All she has to do is block them - she seems to be enjoying the attention!!

[SarahJam]

Well he has yet to come out and say it was bad punctuation so I am going on the facts we have now.

No Idea why she is being condemned for re-tweeting abuse she is getting for reporting racism. I don't see it as attention seeking (and I've never been much of a Lily Allen fan). I'm glad others can see what other idiots there are on Twitter.

If it is a mistake then I very much hope that he won't lose his job and I would not agree with that of course.

If it wasn't a mistake then I think he should lose his job. He's in the army, are they brave, heroic people? Yes. Is he free to say/do what he likes because he's in the army? No.

If I was racist in my job I would be fired, and I'd probably never work in my field again.

[Daisy Bennyboots]

Everything that is wrong with this story encapsulates everything that is wrong with Twitter - provocation and goading, poor jokes that can never be delivered rightfully because the the constraints of the medium, over-reaction, misunderstandings, bad spelling or grammar, general idiotic behaviour and celebrities loving the attention and commanding their little armies to attack people as a kind of massive extention of their overblown sense of importance. Awful.

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by SarahJam

Well he has yet to come out and say it was bad punctuation so I am going on the facts we have now.

No Idea why she is being condemned for re-tweeting abuse she is getting for reporting racism. I don't see it as attention seeking (and I've never been much of a Lily Allen fan). I'm glad others can see what other idiots there are on Twitter.

If it is a mistake then I very much hope that he won't lose his job and I would not agree with that of course.

If it wasn't a mistake then I think he should lose his job. He's in the army, are they brave, heroic people? Yes. Is he free to say/do what he likes because he's in the army? No.

If I was racist in my job I would be fired, and I'd probably never work in my field again.

Bit difficult considering his twitter and FB account have been closed. Anyway, the MOD are dealing with it PRIVATELY - I doubt they'll allow him to talk to the press.

It's got nothing to do with Lily now,let the MOD deal with it - she should wrap up. She's not just re-tweeting abusive comments, she's replying to them

[SarahJam]

Then maybe people should stop sending her abuse.

Well how it is written is a racist comment to me, I would have reported it to. Not down to the 'reporting culture' of the world now but because that is genuinely offensive to me. I don't think people should be allowed to get away with saying things like that and people making excuses for them.

Don't get me wrong, there are times when people seem to overreact to things, but everyone has the right to get offended don't they?

If I said something to you that you felt was racist wouldn't you want to report it?

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by SarahJam

Then maybe people should stop sending her abuse.

Well how it is written is a racist comment to me, I would have reported it to. Not down to the 'reporting culture' of the world now but because that is genuinely offensive to me. I don't think people should be allowed to get away with saying things like that and people making excuses for them.

Don't get me wrong, there are times when people seem to overreact to things, but everyone has the right to get offended don't they?

If I said something to you that you felt was racist wouldn't you want to report it?

All she has to do is ignore it, we are talking about Twitter, there will always be idiots waiting to pick an argument. The minute you bite, they get what they want. She's been in the business long enough to know that - but we are talking about someone who publicly refused to appear on Piers Morgan, knowing it would make the headlines

And of course I'd report someone for a racist comment, I have done and will do if I see it happen in the future. But I don't consider the tweet to Lily Allen, there is a difference.

[Styles]

Even if he had meant for it to describe an African baby as sh*t I dont understand how this would be racist?

[SarahJam]

Originally Posted by Chip Popple

All she has to do is ignore it, we are talking about Twitter, there will always be idiots waiting to pick an argument. The minute you bite, they get what they want. She's been in the business long enough to know that - but we are talking about someone who publicly refused to appear on Piers Morgan, knowing it would make the headlines

And of course I'd report someone for a racist comment, I have done and will do if I see it happen in the future. But I don't consider the tweet to Lily Allen, there is a difference.

You have reported a racist comment before - You found that comment racist so reported it just like Lily found that comment racist and reported it. Whats the difference?

She can ignore it yet, but she hasn't I just personally don't see the problem in her defending herself (which she really shouldn't have to) and retweeting a few idiots. Yes its twitter, they have said things on a public forum, everything is public there. Instead of her being in the wrong for attention seeking, why aren't people saying its wrong for people to be sending her abuse.

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by SarahJam

You have reported a racist comment before - You found that comment racist so reported it just like Lily found that comment racist and reported it. Whats the difference?

She can ignore it yet, but she hasn't I just personally don't see the problem in her defending herself (which she really shouldn't have to) and retweeting a few idiots. Yes its twitter, they have said things on a public forum, everything is public there. Instead of her being in the wrong for attention seeking, why aren't people saying its wrong for people to be sending her abuse.

The difference is the comment I reported was full of disgusting expletives containing the words 'coon', '******' and 'monkey'. THAT is racism not a punctuation error. I did not then notify my followers that I had reported the comment, I did it privately - there is a big difference to what Lily did.

We're going around in circles here Sarah - we'll have to agree to disagree

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by Styles

Even if he had meant for it to describe an African baby as sh*t I dont understand how this would be racist?

Me neither I have never, ever heard the word shit being used as racist abuse.

[SarahJam]

Yes we will have to agree to disagree on parts.

But I'm sorry I don't see racism as black an while like the example you gave there. Yes those are racist words no doubt about it, but racism isn't limited to obviously racist things.

[SarahJam]

Originally Posted by Chip Popple

Me neither I have never, ever heard the word shit being used as racist abuse.

Then maybe this is why we're going round in circles, the way I see it is that he is likening African babies to s*** as in an Africa is the same colour.

That doesn't really explain it very well.

[flagpole]

Originally Posted by gold2040

Oh get over yourself


The Stormfront site is based in America so we have no jurisdiction over the site

unlike twitter which is based in...

Originally Posted by Zack06

'all the best with your new family just seen you bought sh** I meant adopted a child from Africa'

Really? It's a sad world if you think these kinds of comments are acceptable, particularly from a member of the Armed Forces.

It's a disgrace and Lily had every right to report him. I'm not the one here with something to get over....

you didn't read the whole of the OP:

all the best with your new family just seen you bought - shit - I meant adopted a child from Africa

[granted08]

Originally Posted by Styles

Even if he had meant for it to describe an African baby as sh*t I dont understand how this would be racist?

There's lots of racist jokes and slang that compare any race , culture religion or skin colour to s**t. This may not have been the case with Lily Allen, but it 's not uncommon.

[SarahJam]

Originally Posted by flagpole

unlike twitter which is based in...


you didn't read the whole of the OP:

all the best with your new family just seen you bought - shit - I meant adopted a child from Africa

That's what the OP thinks he means, not what was actually written.

[marobby]

maybe the soldier was being deliberately ambiguous

[Ber]

So making up false rumours about someone and spreading them on twitter is just lulz, whereas the target turning it back on them is an over-reaction?

[Jackboy18]

Originally Posted by Ber

So making up false rumours about someone and spreading them on twitter is just lulz, whereas the target turning it back on them is an over-reaction?

Exactly.

The soldier's moronic and greedy friends want him to sue Lily Allen for big bucks. If he attempts to, I hope Lily counter-sues for libel.