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Microsoft Surface isnt it just a laptop?
the Microsoft Surface tablet has a cover that is a keyboard and has a stand that comes out of the back. correct me if im wrong but havent they just designed a laptop?
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the Microsoft Surface tablet has a cover that is a keyboard and has a stand that comes out of the back. correct me if im wrong but havent they just designed a laptop?
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the Microsoft Surface tablet has a cover that is a keyboard and has a stand that comes out of the back. correct me if im wrong but havent they just designed a laptop?
The touchscreen display enables the unique way in which a tablet is used, compared to a laptop computer, not the fact that the keyboard comes in software (or as an optional physical add-on). |
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the Microsoft Surface tablet has a cover that is a keyboard and has a stand that comes out of the back. correct me if im wrong but havent they just designed a laptop?
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Yeah, the pro is interesting. basically you decide if you use it at the moment as a laptop or a tablet. Full HD, Intel i5 3rd gen processor, full W8 pro. I am waiting for the price and battery life to see if it is something for me. I wanted to buy an ultrabook this year, this just can be a nice alternative.
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The pro version sounds as if it could be the perfect replacement for my Transformer Prime.
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The key difference between tablet and laptop is not so much that one has a physical keyboard and the other doesn't, it's more that the other has a touchscreen display while the former does not.
The touchscreen display enables the unique way in which a tablet is used, compared to a laptop computer, not the fact that the keyboard comes in software (or as an optional physical add-on). The key here is that the keyboard cover is detachable and then the device is like any other tablet. Also you can fold the cover behind the tablet and use it as a tablet. |
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the Microsoft Surface tablet has a cover that is a keyboard and has a stand that comes out of the back. correct me if im wrong but havent they just designed a laptop?
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No. With Windows 8, expect to start seeing "ordinary" laptops but with touchscreens.
All that this means is that the dividing line between laptops, netbooks, tablets, etc, is blurring and disappearing - also about time, for it is not the category label that matters, but whether a particular tool is the right tool for the job. |
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No, it’s a Tablet PC that connects to a keyboard dock – it’s like the Asus Transformer
Because of this it might just fall over when on your lap with keyboard attached. Obviously though, a decent solid cover will prevent one heck of a lot of damage. Broken screens are almost as common as muck. |
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what im basically saying is that two things a laptop has over a tablet is it has a stand so you dont have to hold it all the time and it has a keyboard. now this has both these the only thing that differentiates it from a laptop now is it has a touch screen not a tracker pad
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what im basically saying is that two things a laptop has over a tablet is it has a stand so you dont have to hold it all the time and it has a keyboard. now this has both these the only thing that differentiates it from a laptop now is it has a touch screen not a tracker pad
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I'd say no. It's a tablet but one that comes with a keyboard for typing, rather than using an onscreen keyboard (unless you want to). I think the difference really is that a laptop is an all on one device. This is a tablet, with a cover that has a keyboard in it.
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Would it be correct to say that a tablet can only run one app at a time whereas a netbook/laptop/desktop can run numerous programs at the same time?
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Would it be correct to say that a tablet can only run one app at a time whereas a netbook/laptop/desktop can run numerous programs at the same time?
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No, that would be a limitation imposed by OS not the hardware. AFAIK Android has full multitasking, iOS had some limitations, but they are more relaxed now, how far I do not know. Not sure about Windows RT, but Surface pro will have full Windows 8 on it.
Chances are that the metro environment will run much the same on Windows 8 or Windows RT. |
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57...news&tag=title
Seems to me RT manufacturing means an uncertain future for manufacturers with it ending up being a Foxxcon device like the iPad. Surface is just a trademark used for Microsoft touch enabled gadgets. |
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57...news&tag=title
Seems to me RT manufacturing means an uncertain future for manufacturers with it ending up being a Foxxcon device like the iPad. Surface is just a trademark used for Microsoft touch enabled gadgets. I'm pretty sure its down to the fact that Acer produce rubbish. Other OEMs don't seem to be making such a (public) fuss about this. I don't think Acer wants to compete against high-quality tablets and aren't happy that Microsoft are trying to raise the bar among OEMs. |
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I thought I heard somewhere the MS were to charge OEMs $85 for RT.
If right they surely have only one or two 'special deal' partners in mind to produce them. $85 is not feasible so that would already exclude Acer. |
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I thought I heard somewhere the MS were to charge OEMs $85 for RT.
If right they surely have only one or two 'special deal' partners in mind to produce them. $85 is not feasible so that would already exclude Acer. What has been confirmed, is that the initial run of Windows RT devices are limited to only a few OEMs - at least until 2013. Interestingly, though, it wasn't Microsoft that made the choice on who made the cut. It was down to Qualcomm, nVidia and Ti, who were allowed to choose two OEM partners each for the initial RT devices. The belief is that Microsoft want to make sure that the first devices to hit the market are all high-quality, so that initial reviews don't damage Window 8's reputation as a tablet OS. Then, next year, they'll open the floodgates to all OEMs. |
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Well it now rings very very true with this so called tantrum.
Rather than high quality it is as likely exclusivity that guarantees both mass production and decent profits. |
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Yeah, the pro is interesting. basically you decide if you use it at the moment as a laptop or a tablet. Full HD, Intel i5 3rd gen processor, full W8 pro. I am waiting for the price and battery life to see if it is something for me. I wanted to buy an ultrabook this year, this just can be a nice alternative.
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The key difference between tablet and laptop is not so much that one has a physical keyboard and the other doesn't, it's more that the other has a touchscreen display while the former does not.
The touchscreen display enables the unique way in which a tablet is used, compared to a laptop computer, not the fact that the keyboard comes in software (or as an optional physical add-on). |
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I think we are seeing a merging of technology with fuzzy edges. How big does a phone have to be before it becomes a tablet? Many are already a lot larger than my first PalmPilot.
Does a laptop with removable keyboard and a touch screen count as a tablet? I'm expecting many laptops to have touchscreens after Windows 8 is released, so then the question is "Are all laptops with removable keyboards tablets?" Microsoft are planning to roll out Windows 8 across a very wide variety of devices, I'm sure we will have a flood of new names for devices to add to ultrabooks and netbooks that were recently added to try and describe the ever expanding range of laptop types (maybe a touchbook?). So, to answer the original question, is the surface just a laptop? Yes, except I wouldn't use the word "just". |
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