What's going on BT?

wwwebber · 12-07-2012, 13:30

I've still got the old silver BTVision box, I've had it since launch which is quite a few years I can tell you !!. At the start the software was very dodgy, even watching live TV had its problems. After some very overdue software upgrades the box now runs as sweet as a nut.

My question is, with the new Freeview HD Youview box on the horizon (which I will be getting day one), why bother upsetting the applecart with a new OS & UI ??. The old boxes are running fine so why introduce a new apparently slow, buggy OS / UI to a platform that is on its way out ?. What is BT trying to achieve here apart from forcing an upgrade on people that doesn't provide any extra features (in fact you lose red button & text at the moment) and wipes all of your recordings ?.

If I'm something here then please by all means enlighten me.

stewM · 12-07-2012, 14:53

wwwebber, as far as I understand, BT are moving the existing boxes from Widows to Linux. The new Youview compatable Boxes - soon to be launched - will also run on Linux. So BT will be able to use one operating system to run both boxes.

The new software incorporates an upgraded Iplayer, and the red button functions etc will no doubt be added added back when the new software is fully launched.

Crease2000 · 12-07-2012, 15:20

The thing I'm wondering about is whether the black boxes will be able to cope with the current software upgrade? Mine didn't, BT had to send me a new one. Prior to the upgrade that I'm in the process of looking at, there was nothing wrong with my previous black box on the old software.

Life is a mystery, everyone must stand alone

jamcambs · 12-07-2012, 17:27

Due to the high charges for using Windows CE by Microsoft. So they are moving to a linux based software which will add more features and facilities.

MostynDS · 12-07-2012, 19:42

Clearly because BT feel the box has a long way to go. I hate to say I told you so, but...

jamcambs · 12-07-2012, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by MostynDS

Clearly because BT feel the box has a long way to go. I hate to say I told you so, but...

How do you mean? They have a new box on its way.

scotty2808 · 12-07-2012, 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by MostynDS

Clearly because BT feel the box has a long way to go. I hate to say I told you so, but...

I can absolutely guarantee you there is no future in the silver box. Upgrading to the black stb or a future one is the only real way to obtain an upgrade.

Those still on silver - I suspect is due to bad luck as most got upgraded.

I'd hold off till things become clearer. The black boxes will handle linear IPTV easily so upgrading wont be the end of the world.

Hewjars · 12-07-2012, 21:28

What size is the new one? I like a nice compact box to look at.

jamcambs · 12-07-2012, 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewjars

What size is the new one? I like a nice compact box to look at.

What on earth are you on about???

Try going to confused.com

Hewjars · 12-07-2012, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamcambs

What on earth are you on about???

Try going to confused.com

The size of the new box. Dimensions etc. i don't like a great box cluttering up the place

jamcambs · 12-07-2012, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewjars

The size of the new box. Dimensions etc. i don't like a great box cluttering up the place

What are you on, drugs???

Hewjars · 12-07-2012, 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamcambs

What are you on, drugs???

I was under the impression you liked a nice compact box. Sure you said so before somewhen in the dim and distant

NO!! Sorry, my mistake,that's the other person who co-incidentally hailed from Cambridge, had a similar user name and always claimed to be cancelling Sky despite only paying tuppence a month or something for the whole package.

swedish cook · 12-07-2012, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwwebber

I've still got the old silver BTVision box, I've had it since launch which is quite a few years I can tell you !!. At the start the software was very dodgy, even watching live TV had its problems. After some very overdue software upgrades the box now runs as sweet as a nut.

My question is, with the new Freeview HD Youview box on the horizon (which I will be getting day one), why bother upsetting the applecart with a new OS & UI ??. The old boxes are running fine so why introduce a new apparently slow, buggy OS / UI to a platform that is on its way out ?. What is BT trying to achieve here apart from forcing an upgrade on people that doesn't provide any extra features (in fact you lose red button & text at the moment) and wipes all of your recordings ?.

If I'm something here then please by all means enlighten me.

Its got to be a contractual issue thats forcing them to update the BT Vision boxes to non-HD replacement just ahead of Youview.

1andrew1 · 12-07-2012, 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewjars

What size is the new one? I like a nice compact box to look at.

Check out the Humax website for the Humax model, others tbc.

jamcambs · 13-07-2012, 05:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewjars

I was under the impression you liked a nice compact box. Sure you said so before somewhen in the dim and distant

NO!! Sorry, my mistake,that's the other person who co-incidentally hailed from Cambridge, had a similar user name and always claimed to be cancelling Sky despite only paying tuppence a month or something for the whole package.

Crease2000 · 13-07-2012, 12:58

The black box is (cms) 36x23x5 lol

Hewjars · 13-07-2012, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamcambs

of course you are

jamcambs · 13-07-2012, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewjars

of course you are

What? I have no idea who you are and why you keep following me and commenting on my posts.

12-07-2012, 13:30	#1
wwwebber Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,536	What's going on BT? I've still got the old silver BTVision box, I've had it since launch which is quite a few years I can tell you !!. At the start the software was very dodgy, even watching live TV had its problems. After some very overdue software upgrades the box now runs as sweet as a nut. My question is, with the new Freeview HD Youview box on the horizon (which I will be getting day one), why bother upsetting the applecart with a new OS & UI ??. The old boxes are running fine so why introduce a new apparently slow, buggy OS / UI to a platform that is on its way out ?. What is BT trying to achieve here apart from forcing an upgrade on people that doesn't provide any extra features (in fact you lose red button & text at the moment) and wipes all of your recordings ?. If I'm something here then please by all means enlighten me.

12-07-2012, 14:53	#2
stewM Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Saddleworth Posts: 288	wwwebber, as far as I understand, BT are moving the existing boxes from Widows to Linux. The new Youview compatable Boxes - soon to be launched - will also run on Linux. So BT will be able to use one operating system to run both boxes. The new software incorporates an upgraded Iplayer, and the red button functions etc will no doubt be added added back when the new software is fully launched.

12-07-2012, 15:20	#3
Crease2000 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South London, UK Posts: 522	The thing I'm wondering about is whether the black boxes will be able to cope with the current software upgrade? Mine didn't, BT had to send me a new one. Prior to the upgrade that I'm in the process of looking at, there was nothing wrong with my previous black box on the old software. Life is a mystery, everyone must stand alone

12-07-2012, 17:27	#4
jamcambs Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 575	Due to the high charges for using Windows CE by Microsoft. So they are moving to a linux based software which will add more features and facilities.

12-07-2012, 19:42	#5
MostynDS Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 773	Clearly because BT feel the box has a long way to go. I hate to say I told you so, but...

12-07-2012, 20:01	#6
jamcambs Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 575	Quote: Originally Posted by MostynDS Clearly because BT feel the box has a long way to go. I hate to say I told you so, but... How do you mean? They have a new box on its way.

12-07-2012, 21:07	#7
scotty2808 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 435	Quote: Originally Posted by MostynDS Clearly because BT feel the box has a long way to go. I hate to say I told you so, but... I can absolutely guarantee you there is no future in the silver box. Upgrading to the black stb or a future one is the only real way to obtain an upgrade. Those still on silver - I suspect is due to bad luck as most got upgraded. I'd hold off till things become clearer. The black boxes will handle linear IPTV easily so upgrading wont be the end of the world.

12-07-2012, 21:28	#8
Hewjars Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 782	What size is the new one? I like a nice compact box to look at.

12-07-2012, 21:34	#9
jamcambs Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 575	Quote: Originally Posted by Hewjars What size is the new one? I like a nice compact box to look at. What on earth are you on about??? Try going to confused.com

12-07-2012, 22:04	#10
Hewjars Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 782	Quote: Originally Posted by jamcambs What on earth are you on about??? Try going to confused.com The size of the new box. Dimensions etc. i don't like a great box cluttering up the place

12-07-2012, 22:06	#11
jamcambs Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 575	Quote: Originally Posted by Hewjars The size of the new box. Dimensions etc. i don't like a great box cluttering up the place What are you on, drugs???

12-07-2012, 22:39	#12
Hewjars Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 782	Quote: Originally Posted by jamcambs What are you on, drugs??? I was under the impression you liked a nice compact box. Sure you said so before somewhen in the dim and distant NO!! Sorry, my mistake,that's the other person who co-incidentally hailed from Cambridge, had a similar user name and always claimed to be cancelling Sky despite only paying tuppence a month or something for the whole package.

12-07-2012, 23:24	#13
swedish cook Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 821	Quote: Originally Posted by wwwebber I've still got the old silver BTVision box, I've had it since launch which is quite a few years I can tell you !!. At the start the software was very dodgy, even watching live TV had its problems. After some very overdue software upgrades the box now runs as sweet as a nut. My question is, with the new Freeview HD Youview box on the horizon (which I will be getting day one), why bother upsetting the applecart with a new OS & UI ??. The old boxes are running fine so why introduce a new apparently slow, buggy OS / UI to a platform that is on its way out ?. What is BT trying to achieve here apart from forcing an upgrade on people that doesn't provide any extra features (in fact you lose red button & text at the moment) and wipes all of your recordings ?. If I'm something here then please by all means enlighten me. Its got to be a contractual issue thats forcing them to update the BT Vision boxes to non-HD replacement just ahead of Youview.

12-07-2012, 23:30	#14
1andrew1 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,981	Quote: Originally Posted by Hewjars What size is the new one? I like a nice compact box to look at. Check out the Humax website for the Humax model, others tbc.

13-07-2012, 05:14	#15
jamcambs Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 575	Quote: Originally Posted by Hewjars I was under the impression you liked a nice compact box. Sure you said so before somewhen in the dim and distant NO!! Sorry, my mistake,that's the other person who co-incidentally hailed from Cambridge, had a similar user name and always claimed to be cancelling Sky despite only paying tuppence a month or something for the whole package.

13-07-2012, 12:58	#16
Crease2000 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South London, UK Posts: 522	The black box is (cms) 36x23x5 lol

13-07-2012, 20:54	#17
Hewjars Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 782	Quote: Originally Posted by jamcambs of course you are

13-07-2012, 20:57	#18
jamcambs Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 575	Quote: Originally Posted by Hewjars of course you are What? I have no idea who you are and why you keep following me and commenting on my posts.

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