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Old 16-07-2012, 11:52   #1
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Can't believe you can actually bet on this??
Surely people 'in the know' would be able to clean up??
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:00   #2
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With WWE becoming so predictable I knew that Cena would win the main event, so I went to bed this morning. I felt the match with Bryan and Punk went on a bit too long. It was a good match, but I started to get bored with it.

The first ladder match were Cara botched the top rope move and nearly hurting Ziggler was a good match and I enjoyed that, but after that it went downhill rapidly.
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:16   #3
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Just comes to something when they promote Big Show as a "monster" who no one can stop yet Super Cena saves the day again. Cena is the modern day Hulk Hogan. I shoulldn't wish bad things on people but might not be a bad thing if Cena got taken out of action for 1 year would it
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:19   #4
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With WWE becoming so predictable I knew that Cena would win the main event, so I went to bed this morning. I felt the match with Bryan and Punk went on a bit too long. It was a good match, but I started to get bored with it.

The first ladder match were Cara botched the top rope move and nearly hurting Ziggler was a good match and I enjoyed that, but after that it went downhill rapidly.
I think it was more that Ziggler slipped if you watch it back.

Cara after did look like he did a couple of stiff kicks on Ziggler to get him out the ring.
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:41   #5
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Just to mention from the previous thread, a £10 bet on Ziggler, Sheamus, Punk and Cena would have given you around a £45-50 return just before the event, about £70 had you done it the day before.... and yes people in the know would be able to clean it up but you never know with Vince.
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:00   #6
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Here's the match listings for the new CM PunK DVD/Blu-ray, out in October.

http://www.silvervision.co.uk/produc...y-2-Discs.html
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:22   #7
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Guess I'm in the minority I don't mind Cena winning. Hasn't been involved in the title picture for a year now and looking forward to how Cena uses the MITB case. If it means we get Cena/Punk again I can't argue.
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:44   #8
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With a new WWE Championship belt to be released anytime soon it could be possible that WWE wants Cena to be the first with it for marketing reasons with Mattell or whoever will make the toy version.

I would not mind having Cena in the title frame either now or in a year or two. However, what I hate is the fact he's been rammed down our throats whilst CM Punk has been Champion, and it will be the same **** as his last reign and be in the main event scene till Wrestlemania at least now.

There's also Linda's campaign, and they may want Sheamus and Cena as face Champions whilst she is in the final months of her campaign to make WWE look good.

Anyway, I'm just not interested in anything Cena, so all eyes on Ziggler.
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:50   #9
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MITB has become too predictable, someone needs to cash it in and lose (in a way which doesn't make them look weak). Cena won't be hurt by having him be the first, so he's the best choice.
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Old 16-07-2012, 14:38   #10
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Thought last night's PPV was really strong, if safe. Opening match was excellent, Sheamus vs. Del Rio was good, tag team match was solid, Bryan vs. Punk was another great match from the two, and the main event was good. The filler was ok too.

I think CM Punk's title reign will last until Night of Champions in Boston. They keep pushing how long he's held the title and This will bring his reign over the 300 day mark. Placing him in the top 10 reigns of all time.
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Old 16-07-2012, 14:48   #11
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MITB has become too predictable, someone needs to cash it in and lose (in a way which doesn't make them look weak). Cena won't be hurt by having him be the first, so he's the best choice.
My guess would be tonight on Raw, Cena will cash in the MITB for next week. They want to go big for the 1,000th Raw its all set up for it Cena v Punk for the brand new WWE title, with Cena cashing in. I can't see Cena being one to cash in after a match and would then allow for Punk v Cena v Bryan at Summerslam.
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Old 16-07-2012, 14:59   #12
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Old 16-07-2012, 15:24   #13
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It was a decent pay-per-view but I definitely think WWE have to seriously change John Cena's dominance before it's too late. He's headlined all but Royal Rumble this year, and only lost two of those matches (of which only one was clean and he was essentially the "moral" victor of the John Laurinaitis match anyway).

I don't even hate John Cena like many do, but relying on one star doesn't work like it did before. It was okay when Hulk Hogan was "the man" (and even he lost sometimes) because it was a pretty fresh thing for most people, but the majority of today's adult fans were spoiled by the Monday Night Wars where there verging on a dozen people as over as Cena - Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H, The Undertaker and for a period of time Mick Foley in WWE; Hulk Hogan, Goldberg, Sting and to a degree Booker T in WCW; and even Rob Van Dam and arguably Tazz in ECW. Those of us who were fans in those days have been spoilt, really.

TNA is alright in that they don't rely on one person - but the problem is TNA is dreadful everywhere else.
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Old 16-07-2012, 15:59   #14
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I thought the Smackdown MITB was MOTN, though it started off slow because Tensai was so big compared to the others, and because I thought there were too many people in the match - I only watch Raw so I ended up being pleasantly surprised by Kidd in particular, shame he's not around more. Agree the second half was better than the first, from Cara being slammed on the ladder by Tensai to the end was spot after spot and looked great. Really happy Ziggler won as well thought I thought Cody might have got it.

WHC match was okay but I found it slightly boring as I don't like ADR much. Not a lot to say about the last minute match additions as they were all fairly predictable, except that I thought the amount of time Kaitlin got in the Divas match was pretty good and that she proved herself quite well. WWE title was really good but as others said, I thought it was a bit too long. I'd like to see how they're going to wrap this up now that there is a new contender for the title after the MITB contract has been won. Didn't make it to the end of the Raw MITB match but not surprised to hear Cena won as they made such a fuss about it being his first match. I'm hoping this means he will be first to cash in and lose, though it won't be a clean loss I imagine!

Also thought the crowd was fairly decent, and they had some great signs - "that ladder has a family!" being one of my favourites!
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Old 16-07-2012, 17:03   #15
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Agree with AJ here, TNA is far ahead of WWE in terms of current TV output. If TNA had the production value of WWE it would be far superior. TNA is currently booking joined up stroylines, with genuinely interesting long running arc's, build from Bully/Park, AA, and AJ/Daniels has been running for some months now, with no sign of it becoming tired, and now they have Ace's and 8's, which looks likesosme sort of NEXUS type angle, and it is building again. Add in the BFG seris and OFN and TNA is blowing WWE out of the water with its current output. And this comes from a WWE fan, but my SKY+ is in overtime FF'ing smackdown (sorry RAW rebound) and Raw (two hours is too long atm, why go three!). Only thing that is interesting atm is NXT.
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Old 16-07-2012, 17:05   #16
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Cena winning the contract makes no sense anyway since he consistently gets title shots on a regular basis.
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Old 16-07-2012, 17:11   #17
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Cena winning the contract makes no sense anyway since he consistently gets title shots on a regular basis.
12 months+ since he had a shot, for a main event talent that is quite a while to be fair to the guy
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Old 16-07-2012, 17:20   #18
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12 months+ since he had a shot, for a main event talent that is quite a while to be fair to the guy
Given the number of title reigns he's already had, I doubt he needs another one urgently.
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Old 16-07-2012, 17:22   #19
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Only to pay Mrs Cena!
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He can sell his damn car collection, lol
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Old 16-07-2012, 17:29   #21
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TNA is alright in that they don't rely on one person - but the problem is TNA is dreadful everywhere else.
You what? TNA has been absolutely brilliant for at least the last 2-3 months now!
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Old 16-07-2012, 17:30   #22
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I think people are mistaking the WWE championship, which is a mid-card title with the John Cena championship which is a guaranteed main event. So congrats to CM Punk last night for finally getting a shot at the most prestigous championship in the company, though knowing his luck, he'll probably semi-main with Cena next month and the Triple H championship will take precedent.
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Old 16-07-2012, 18:24   #23
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Wrestling has become so predictable now, and theyre making it for kids. All this AJ stuff is stupid, its a mockery of what wrestling used. And dont even get me started on that 'lawsuit' nonsense involving triple h and brock lesnar, as if we adults are meant to buy that crap.

Anyhows i watched this PPV cause its free, first wwe show ive watched properly in a month, apart from the first match, it was a total bore.
I dnt think Cena was meant to win the contract, it just fell off, he looked more surprised than anyone, and he just went along with it when he realised that it came off the hook.
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Old 16-07-2012, 18:29   #24
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I think Cena was meant to win but the case did come off a little early, We should probably blame that on Jericho for swinging on it

I'll be happy to watch Cena v Punk again, they always work very well together.
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Old 16-07-2012, 18:35   #25
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I dnt think Cena was meant to win the contract, it just fell off, he looked more surprised than anyone, and he just went along with it when he realised that it came off the hook.
Can you imagine what would've happened if that'd happened? The case falls off the hook when the wrong guy is holding it? Imagine Santino winning like that, I think Vince would be having a fit backstage
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