[LauraH23]

Anyone follow Roddy Piper on twitter? He's kicking off big time as someone has started rumours that he was innapropriate to Kaitlyn at Raw's 1000 ep

[poikly]

When Raw went Old School they had the two different sets for Superstars so we'll have to wait and see I guess

[KieranDS]

edit - delete post.

[Big Boy Barry]

Originally Posted by jamespondo

Still pretty heelish though. Attempting to pin a true goodie goodie after he's been knocked out, then refusing to help him. Then attacking an undisputed fan favourite when it wasn't it retaliation for anything..

He could have pinned Cena instantly, but gave a chance to recover, from which Cena did. As for Cena getting beatdown, Punk has no further obligation to protect him. As far as Rock is concerned, he fired the first shot by talking big about possibly facing Punk, so Punk's actions were his way of saying "yeah, well bring it on"

[KieranDS]

Ratings breakdown should be out soon for Raw 1000.

[KieranDS]

WWE RAW did a 3.86 rating over three hours with an average of 6.04 million viewers – the most viewers ever for a three-hour show.

They averaged a 4.03 rating and 6.31 million viewers over the final two hours.

WWE’s advertising the 8pm start time worked for this show as they had 5.58 million viewers already tuned in for the start of the show.

In the segment breakdown, DX’s reunion opened so strong that the second quarter gain with the end of the DX segment gained 27,000 viewers. That would usually be a loss.

The six-man with Rey Mysterio, Sin Cara and Sheamus vs. Alberto Del Rio, Dolph Ziggler and Chris Jericho with the Charlie Sheen interview lost 395,000 viewers.

Jack Swagger vs. Brodus Clay and a bunch of backstage stuff with the Legends gained 326,000 viewers.

The AJ Lee and Daniel Bryan wedding at 9pm gained 616,000 viewers for a 3.91 rating.

The Rock coming out with CM Punk and Daniel Bryan in the ring gained 575,000 viewers for a 4.28 quarter rating.

Christian vs. The Miz lost 895,000 viewers but that’s not a surprise given the large gains for the previous segments.

The segment with Triple H, Paul Heyman and Stephanie McMahon gained 334,000 viewers.

Brock Lesnar’s brawl with Triple H gained 90,000 more viewers.

The Heath Slater segment with the WWE Legends gained 25,000 viewers for a 3.99 quarter rating in a timeslot that usually loses big time.You would expect that Slater segment to lose a lot of viewers because it came right after the big HHH-Lesnar segment.

The Undertaker’s return with Kane gained 293,000 viewers.

WWE Champion CM Punk vs. John Cena with The Rock and Big Show appearing gained 389,000 viewers and peaked the show with a 4.43 overrun rating.

[madmaniac]

I enjoyed RAW - a glimpse back to the good ol'days.

It kind of shows how poor WWE is at the moment if it needs to bring in its old stars to prop up the ratings.

I'd love to see a few things in the current WWE product:

- More factions. They might create some breakout stars. The Rock broke through the Nation of Domination. Orton and Batista through Evolution, HHH through DX, etc.
- More gimmicks ... why don't wrestlers have nicknames any more? Steve Austin would never have been massive without the "Stone Cold" gimmick. Rocky Maivia wasn't going anywhere until he became "The Rock".
- Give PPVs a different feel to RAW and Smackdown. Vastly different arena setups, lighting, production, and maybe separate commentators for PPVs only (JR and another perhaps).
- ... and LESS PPVs! Maybe one every other month.
- Forget the brand split already. It hasn't been split in months so stop promoting RAW as a "Supershow" and merge the brands.
- Make the titles mean something. Especially the IC title.
- Why are all tag teams so bland these days? Why do the tag partners need to look the same and dress the same? I'd like to see maybe some of the under utilised singles guys become tag teams and come up with a catchy name (i.e. Steve Austin and Brian Pillman = Hollywood Blonds).

And probably some others but I'm tired now.

[KieranDS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dui5lIVV7g0
New theme for Raw apparently. It's a WWE remix of that Tonight Is The Night song. They played it a bit on Raw when Cole was introducing us to the show.

I like it.

[Gwm101]

Cena sounds like a real nasty piece of work backstage.

[I IZ Ghetto]

Originally Posted by Gwm101

Cena sounds like a real nasty piece of work backstage.

Well after "rallying" for Ortons release, I'm not surprised. The way I see it, Riley was gaining massive popularity, and Orton I would say is just more popular than Cena fullstop. Coincidence?

[Shadout]

Originally Posted by I IZ Ghetto

Well after "rallying" for Ortons release, I'm not surprised. The way I see it, Riley was gaining massive popularity, and Orton I would say is just more popular than Cena fullstop. Coincidence?

That's a new one on me, what's he said specifically, and where did this story come from?

[JCR]

Originally Posted by Gwm101

Cena sounds like a real nasty piece of work backstage.

The people at the top of the tree in pro wrestling will always try to hold potential replacements back to 'protect their spot'; this is the way it's always been, and probably always will be.

[Gwm101]

Originally Posted by JCR

The people at the top of the tree in pro wrestling will always try to hold potential replacements back to 'protect their spot'; this is the way it's always been, and probably always will be.

That hardly justifies him being an a***-hole.

It's a shame. Pre-Hollywood, The Rock had no problem putting others over to elevate them. Cena just sounds like such a weasel backstage and on top of that he's a proven serial cheat. I know probably a lot of them are, but when I see his goofy face trying to give off this squeaky clean image, stuff like this really grates me.

Can't wait till someone else rises to the top. Yeah, maybe they'll be the same, but we are long overdue something different.

[smc81]

Originally Posted by Gwm101

Cena sounds like a real nasty piece of work backstage.

He does not have that rep at all. Most people have nothing but good things to say about him.

[Steveaustin316]

Originally Posted by JCR

The people at the top of the tree in pro wrestling will always try to hold potential replacements back to 'protect their spot'; this is the way it's always been, and probably always will be.

That's a shame, because selfish behaviour like that will only hurt the company in the long run.

[Gwm101]

Originally Posted by Steveaustin316

That's a shame, because selfish behaviour like that will only hurt the company in the long run.

Amen.

[OminousGlory]

Originally Posted by Shadout

That's a new one on me, what's he said specifically, and where did this story come from?

The former Kenny Dykstra recently said that Cena was rallying for Orton's release... though this was back when Orton failed his first drug test, not his recent failing. Dykstra's been saying a lot of crap about Cena though and I don't believe most of it. Mainly because it's taken him like four years to spit it out since he was released. He's just another Michael Tarver "bitch about Cena" type.

As for the A-Ry story which is where this topic started, you gotta be able to handle some ribbing, especially from the top guy.

[AJ Wheels]

That kenny dykstra guy has taken all this time to speak up about wwe because he was still hoping to be rehired, but year after year after year went by, and he wasnt rehired. Now he has realised they dont want him back, theyre not interested, and so now hes coming out with all these 'backstage stories' and its quite silly really.

If they werent gonna rehire him before, they definitely wont now. Totally burned his bridges.

[dillkid]

I'm calling BS on all of the stories Kenny Dykstra keeps telling about Cena. He's just bitter and jealous that he's career went down the toilet. Don't you find it funny that he started them when Cena was going through he's divorce? He thought dirt was going to come out of it, and that he was going to be throwing another log into the fire.

[jamespondo]

Alex Riley did himself no favours by eliminating himself in Royal Rumble 2011, botching a basic move from Jack Swagger and putting in generally green performance during his push.

That's not to say John Cena is some kind of saint. He was happy to single handedly destroy Nexus, make The Miz look a complete joke, happily point out Del Rio's flaws, take down Lesnar's momentum, and headline nearly every PPV this year.

[smc81]

Originally Posted by jamespondo

Alex Riley did himself no favours by eliminating himself in Royal Rumble 2011, botching a basic move from Jack Swagger and putting in generally green performance during his push.

That's not to say John Cena is some kind of saint. He was happy to single handedly destroy Nexus, make The Miz look a complete joke, happily point out Del Rio's flaws, take down Lesnar's momentum, and headline nearly every PPV this year.

Cena does not book his own storylines - he does what he is told. If you want to blame someone for the state of the product then you have to look at Vince McMahon and his writing team.

[OnDatKryptonite]

Originally Posted by AJ Wheels

That kenny dykstra guy has taken all this time to speak up about wwe because he was still hoping to be rehired, but year after year after year went by, and he wasnt rehired. Now he has realised they dont want him back, theyre not interested, and so now hes coming out with all these 'backstage stories' and its quite silly really.

If they werent gonna rehire him before, they definitely wont now. Totally burned his bridges.

You have some details missing.

Dykstra was backstage last November and apparently went to shake Cena's hand and to basically put the past behind them. Cena refuse to shake his hand even though Dykstra thought he was being the bigger man by being willing to forgive the guy his girlfriend cheated on him with which led to the end of their engagement. He also was basically told as long as Cena was on the roster he would never be welcomed back because of the politics involved given Cena is a company ace. So Cena burned his bridges and Dykstra figured he had more to gain by telling stories than keeping quiet since that door is locked for him anyway.

[jamespondo]

Cena will be involved in the layout of his matches and have enough power to influence decisions. This company relies on two things to maintain this level of success - the WWE brand and Cena's drawing power. You don't have that level of power and not be able to influence Vince, Stephanie and Triple H.

He could have said why not give the headline match of Over The Limit and Money in the Bank to the WWE title, or used his promos to make Del Rio seem a bigger threat, or questioned why Nexus were being buried so much. It was his call to end Extreme Rules with another superman defies the odds ending, when being taken away on a stretcher was the way to keep Brock seeming like a major threat.

[KieranDS]

According to a blog from an ex-creative team member Cena WANTS to turn heel and put people over but Vince doesn't want him to do any of those things.

[KieranDS]

Originally Posted by jamespondo

Cena will be involved in the layout of his matches and have enough power to influence decisions. This company relies on two things to maintain this level of success - the WWE brand and Cena's drawing power. You don't have that level of power and not be able to influence Vince, Stephanie and Triple H.

He could have said why not give the headline match of Over The Limit and Money in the Bank to the WWE title, or used his promos to make Del Rio seem a bigger threat, or questioned why Nexus were being buried so much. It was his call to end Extreme Rules with another superman defies the odds ending, when being taken away on a stretcher was the way to keep Brock seeming like a major threat.

How do you know he doesn't do that but it falls on deaf ears i.e Vince?