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Old 16-07-2012, 12:14
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:36
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In the English pyramid when teams have folded or a team from the division below has been refused promotion for not having a ground up to standard etc, it's generally the relegated team that gets a reprieve.
Are you sure? I cannot remember the circumstances, but IIRC, I recall Ron Atkinson (as their then manager) calling for Sheffield Wednesday to be put back up into the top flight having been relegated, because a spare place became available - but it wasn't accepted.
1990 when Swindon got punished for financial irregularities, & match fixing, although they won the play offs, they got demoted to division 3, but on appeal got reinstated in division 2, Sunderland who lost the play off final got promoted to division 1 instead, Sheff Wed who finished 3rd bottom in division 1 never got a reprieve from relegation[these were the old divisions before the Premier League was formed].
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:44
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Breaking news, Dundee will be in the SPL next season.
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:47
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1990 when Swindon got punished for financial irregularities, & match fixing, although they won the play offs, they got demoted to division 3, but on appeal got reinstated in division 2, Sunderland who lost the play off final got promoted to division 1 instead, Sheff Wed who finished 3rd bottom in division 1 never got a reprieve from relegation[these were the old divisions before the Premier League was formed].
Thanks for that. I had the vague memory of Big Ron calling for Sheff Wed to not be relegated, but I couldn't remember any details, and was unable to find it by searching primarily because I didn't really know what I was lookintg for.
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:48
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no real surprise that dundee got promoted into the SPL.
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:50
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Yay!

Even if it's only for a season, it's good to be back.
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:53
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Thanks for that. I had the vague memory of Big Ron calling for Sheff Wed to not be relegated, but I couldn't remember any details, and was unable to find it by searching primarily because I didn't really know what I was lookintg for.
No probs.

Looks like SPL 2 won't be happening.

Also haven't Dundee had financial problems recently themselves, i recall them getting docked a few points more than the normal 10 points for going into Admin?
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:59
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No probs.

Looks like SPL 2 won't be happening.

Also haven't Dundee had financial problems recently themselves, i recall them getting docked a few points more than the normal 10 points for going into Admin?
been in administration a couple of times, think it was a 25 point penalty.

spl2 was a nonstarter, league reconstruction has to involve all clubs not just a select few
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:02
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No probs.

Looks like SPL 2 won't be happening.

Also haven't Dundee had financial problems recently themselves, i recall them getting docked a few points more than the normal 10 points for going into Admin?
Why should past financial mismanagement, for which we were punished, come into it?
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:05
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Now all the United and Dundee home fixture clashes to sort
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:10
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Why should past financial mismanagement, for which we were punished, come into it?
Just asking a question that's all, & indeed Administration & Liquidation are 2 separate things, so shouldn't be compared to.


Be interesting to see what happens to the SFA CE his position has to be untenable after recent events.
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:27
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Pleased with the outcome, welcome back Sc...eh Dundee !!

Guaranteed 9 points if nothing else

Will be great to have the Dundee derby back and hopefully a few Claudio Caniggia, Fabrizio Ravanelli type signings

So we have an Edinburgh Derby and Dundee Derby very early into the season, Scottish football can finally move on !!

I wonder what will happen with their season tickets ? Will they still charge same rate or will they suddenly hike up the price as their playing higher calibre of opposition.
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:28
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dundee up to spl from div 1.....

who else is getting promoted so the rangers can be in div 3

need to know who goes up from 2 to 1 , and who goes up from 3 to 2

1 more question....
will celtic/have celtic had to reduce season ticket price that usually includes OF fiixture....if so by how much
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:29
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It's already been confirmed that Stranraer are moving from D3 to D2, and it'll probably be Airdrie Utd from D2 to D1 (both as losing finalists in the play-offs).
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:30
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It's already been confirmed that Stranraer are moving from D3 to D2, and it'll probably be Airdrie Utd from D2 to D1 (both as losing finalists in the play-offs).
thanks for that...i mustv missed that info
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:32
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Now all the United and Dundee home fixture clashes to sort
It'll also mean that some Celtic and Rangers home fixtures will clash.
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:34
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The Celtic home game will probably be moved to an early kick off or a Sunday kickoff with Rangers getting the good old Saturday 3pm game (I hope so anyway as I missed a few games last season with Rangers games getting shifted about for TV)
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Rangers first game is the Challenge Cup away to Brechin 28th July, although i'm not an fan of any teams in Scotland, it will be strange to see Rangers playing in the 3rd division.
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:39
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1 more question....
will celtic/have celtic had to reduce season ticket price that usually includes OF fiixture....if so by how much
No change in pricing as this situation was included.
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Old 16-07-2012, 13:41
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Good to see Dundee in SPL - sepecially after the crowd that turned up for the friendly. Jeez, I'm really fickle when it comes to money-matters

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Old 16-07-2012, 13:59
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no real surprise that dundee got promoted into the SPL.
Or Club 12, as they will henceforth be known.
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Old 16-07-2012, 17:24
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Good to see Dundee in SPL - sepecially after the crowd that turned up for the friendly. Jeez, I'm really fickle when it comes to money-matters

Yeah an 11k crowd is amazing in a city with a 200,000+ population.
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Old 16-07-2012, 18:01
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A interesting discussion been going on on Talksport about the Rangers situation and the future of scottish football.

A lot of bigoted ill-informed callers being handed their arse by the expert pundits.
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Old 16-07-2012, 18:09
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STV understands that Sevco Scotland have no option but to accept the 12 month transfer embargo or they will not be able to transfer membership.

They also can't apply for new membership as they don't meet the criteria.
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Old 16-07-2012, 18:13
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STV understands that Sevco Scotland have no option but to accept the 12 month transfer embargo or they will not be able to transfer membership.

They also can't apply for new membership as they don't meet the criteria.
Yeah the SFA are basically blackmailing Rangers, either accept these illegal sanctions or we wont allow you to play.

Given that they barely have a full team, not sure how banning them from buying more players is going to work, when they are allowing them to play in 2 weeks time.
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