You can't say that without naming names.

There is no obvious candidate unless you go back to No Surname or McLeish.

Saying "I want attacking football" doesn't help because 3 defeats later he will be out on his arse.

Ok here is the incident - now talk us through the part of your post I have highlighted:

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/gi...over-scotland/

because I certainly don't see what you are seeing.

I see, at best, a faint brush of his back leg and an exaggerated leap into the air. If it's not a dive it's about as close to a dive as you can get.

It is a dive he kicks the back of his own leg to simulate being clipped by Maloney and the ref buys it.

So do we expect an emergency SFA board meeting on Wednesday for the inevitable.

I do feel Belgium will probably give us about 3 or 4 and that will be the final nail

In other news, Jonny Hayes has been getting pretty strong abuse from Sevco fans on Twitter for Tweeting "No poppy ya dancer".

It continued even after explaining it was a horse that came in at 11-1...

Its only a matter of time that we get the ' Usual Suspects' starting all that crap. on this tthread !!!

lol even when your own player admits to fouling Bale and giving away the penalty - some still deny it was a penalty. Also, some of your players need to realise they were playing football at the Cardiff city Stadium not the Arms Park.

Anyway, being constructive can't see that it's the managers fault really - you need to go back to grass roots, you virtually bypassed the midfield everytime you got the ball and yes fletcher got to the first ball but usually there was a Wales player to get the 2nd ball

I agree, even in that poor quality clip that was linked, and from an unfavourable angle, in real time, you can see there was probably contact. I saw the match live, in hd, on a 43" inch screen, replays confirmed he caught him, the player admitted it himself that he was at fault,, but I guess fellow DS posters happen to know more than the actual players playing, it's embarrassing, I see no one has addressed the earlier penalty Wales should have got also, Wales deserved to win, they won, they are simply better than Scotland at the moment, not by much, but that's around Wales's level, when the draw was made I expected them to finish fourth above Scotland and Macedonia, I'm still hopeful of that.

That's a bit of an exaggeration:


It says more about Maloney in any case than it says about Bale - who clearly clipped his own heels on the back of minimal contact, had earlier dived in the game and has done it several times in the past (including last weekend's embarrassment). Ramsey was just as bad - I suppose if you throw yourself to the ground enough times in the box you're bound to get one of them.

I don't think many people are arguing Scotland deserved to win. That was one of the poorest performances I've seen from us in a long time. Nevertheless, it doesn't make the diving of Bale and Ramsey any better.

I still genuinely think Wales are a worse team than Scotland (I can't ever imagine us getting beat 6-1 by Serbia, who looked an extremely mediocre side when we played them) but realistically we're both playing for 4th place.

We are worse than Wales, its time to accept that with the ranking continuing to plummet we are getting closer to being fifth seeds in tournament draws

Someone talking sense Bunk is delusional it has already been quoted on here Scotland's recent record against Wales 15 goal to 4 I think - Wales have slumped a bit since Gary Speed's death but they have a good midfield when Wales can get them all out and fit

If you disagree then that's your opinion, but it's hardly delusional to think Scotland will finish above Wales. I don't see a great deal of difference between our sides - Wales have better big name players like Bale, but I think we've got more depth. Make no mistake about it, any team that gets beat 6-1 by Serbia is a truly terrible international side.

And any team that can go to wembley and come away deserving a minimum of a draw if not a win can't be too bad

So your argument that Wales are actually a good team rests on a game over a year ago where they put in a decent performance against a mediocre England side, but still lost.

Wales' recent form coming into the Scotland game was:

Played 5

Won 0
Drawn 0
Lost 5

Goals for 1
Goals against 13

and how has your form been

the last 7 matches head to head

Wales won 5
Scotland won 1
Drawn 1

So how does that make scotland better than wales

and add to that another win last night - which really is the only one that matters when you are talking about which is currently the best team

FIFA lists the head to head for the last 7 as 4-3 to Wales...

Not that it makes a blind bit of difference because games played yonks ago are completely irrelevant to how teams are playing now. You'd be as well quoting the historical record going back to the 19th century for all the difference it makes.

What about a side that loses 5-1 to the USA

I'm not saying Scotland are a good side - I think we're terrible - but I'm simply not buying this idea that somehow Wales are actually decent. Their recent form has been pathetic.

You're entitled to take your usual ludicrously negative stance on the matter, but I personally don't think Wales will finish above us in the group.

I do sometimes think I am over negative, lets be honest we are terrible though and are getting worse

Wales are not a good side but they were playing a terrible side

Getting rid of Levein should at least do something to turn it around. Although I don't disagree that we are genuinely terrible at this point in time.

If Levein goes who would you get, my money is on McLeish.

Not him please! Strachan or Jordan.

Look on the bright side, at least Gordon Smith won't be appointing the next Scotland manager.