To be fair, I was talking to yer man

If the fans of the rest of the SPL clubs hadn't got up on their hind legs about not admitting Sevco to the top flight, I feel that they would be taking the place that Dundee currently occupy.

And I reckon that a number of SPL clubs were applying undue pressure to the SFL to admit Newco to Div 1.

As for the vote to admit Dundee to the SPL, it was probably the correct decision, because SPL rules state that when a team finishes bottom they cannot reapply for membership unless the club that is set to replace them cannot take part due to ground standards. Dundee of course way exceed these.

But due to the exceptional circumstances that the bankruptcy of Rangers this season, I feel that if sporting integrity was to be upheld, then a sporting solution was required. There was IMO enough time to either stage a two legged match at East End and Dens or a one off game at McDiarmid Park between the two sides.

This would surely have kicked any argument about this into the long grass.

That would have possibly been the worst option, because neither side would have been ready for such a game, meaning that it gave the illusion of "sporting integrity", but really it would have been a case of who happened to be further on in their pre-season preparations.

hearing some stuff on twitter

rangers still haggling over sfa membership
spl can't afford sfl payments
and some rumours about Dunfermline getting a winding up order......

any truth in any of this??

Doubtful.

1st two are true

on bbc website

spl trying to get rangers media rights from sfl
spl cant pay sfl until tv deal is signed....

I would love it if the sfa dropped there investigation into dual contract, but then a few weeks later, the inlkand revenue announce there intention to investigate dual contract, and force the sfa to comment on this

FOLLOW FOLLOW

Well this is going well.

If deal cant be reached for Rangers to play, it could put the SFL and the SPL under.

The SPL saying they cant afford to pay the SFL the money they owe them unless they get money from Rangers media rights in the 3rd DIV.

Does that mean if the SPL cant pay the bill, they go under?
Does that also mean the SFL couldnt afford to run without the money?

i dont know, all i know is it aint good for Scottish football.

lol....

I'm sure someone will invent an 'lol' even louder one day

TO COIN A PHRASE:

'JESUS WEPT '

sfl hold the cards

they are owed 2 million
spl cant pay unless tv deal signed
apparently tv not signing unless rangers are included
rangers not getting licence unless tv deal is sorted

pmsl....is this what sporting integrity is?
totally farcical

I really want the SFL to get the money from this, it would be great to see some of the lower clubs get a go at some good attendance figures and TV money, build up their stadiums and teams to a higher level.
It could be good for scottish football as a whole in the long run.

unless it all goes pear shaped and they are so busy fighting over the money that no-one bothers to transfer rangers licence over.

Ahhhhh but.....

Team GB are competing at the Olympics this week no less!

FIFA and UEFA use this and the meltdown in Scotland as the perfect excuse to attempt a merger of all the UK FAs into one beautifully united GBFA....

Under terms devised by the English FA(as one would fully expect of course....)

OK, it's a total p***take, but I feel that stranger things have happened in this game.....

Any better ideas???

Depends on whether the TV companies wish to give all their spare buttons and washers to the SFL sorry to say.

I didn't ask for your opinion which seems to be made up of pure bluster (and probably a fair slice of hatred) ... please direct us to these findings you speak of.

Must be more than buttons of the SFL and the SPL are fighting over it, and it the SPL doesnt get the "buttons", they cant afford to pay the SFL the money they owe it.

Sorry, but this is big money here.

Sorry Cantona - please don't post your opinion as fact - direct us to the findings that say Rangers administered the EBT's illegally - that is the gist of it don't try and cloud it.

Of course once you can do this then the thread can move forward - I trust your googling skills should meet the required task quite easily as you seem to know what you are talking about ... ho hum.


Unfortunately your posts have proved pretty much to be along the lines of a Man United fan posting in a forum that you really shouldn't be posting in ... as your interest for Scottish football is zilch, but you think you can take a cheap shot at Rangers ...

prove me wrong ... and back it up old bean.

Sorry why should Rangers fans be accused of this when your club systematically covered it up from the top to the very bottom ... explain please or is it a simple case of sweep, sweep.

Your club (and fans) have to deal with the fall out of this like adults and not try and start sweeping what happened under a carpet ... it happened - it was covered up .... deal with it.

This is not a point scoring exercise but after some of the shit that has been posted against my club I almost certainly aint gonna sit back and take it.

If this is the case then, as drastic as it sounds, this must surely be the end of professional football as we know it in Scotland.

Utterly pathetic, pityful and disgraceful.

I sold my car, the guy that bought it got done for drink driving, I'm now banned.


Perhaps you will be able to tell me what position Torbett's position of employment was at Celtic Football Club then?


HMRC have already decided they were illegal, that is why they sent Rangers a bill for them.


It is a complete point scoring exercise, and to use the abuse of boys by a pervert just shows what absolute filth some of your support are.

If I was to retort in a similar way I'd ask you for your opinion about Charles Dougan's wife who sued Rangers after he died in the second Ibrox disaster, the 4th incident in 10 years after incidents in 1961, 1963 and 1969 and was awarded £26,261. The Sheriff said "the accident was due to the fault and negligence of the defenders" with the defenders being Rangers. Killed your own fans.

Im Scottish, i live in Scotland, Ive been to Ibrox numerous times. The last one being the legends game - you should bring Albertz and Gio back, they would rip up Div 3.

I have no axe to grind with Rangers at all - i dislike them so i guess i do from that point of view but not enough to want them dead. All I'm doing is commenting on what i think is a massive story for Scottish football.

If I've got any of the story wrong I'm happy to be corrected by you or anyone else, I'm not precious about it. I assumed that getting a large tax bill indicated tax avoidance in the past but again happy to be corrected. I would have thought that the current mess the club (in whatever guise it currently takes) is in was a fairly big indicator of wrong-doing on an absolutely mahoosive scale.

You don't go from being the cock of the walk to well, just cocks in the space of a few weeks without some pretty major wrongdoing.

One of the problems i debating the EBT issue is the use of the word 'guilty'. This is not a criminal trial, therefore there is no guilty or not guilty.

However HMRC have found that Rangers have missused the EBT scheme, so from that point of view they have been found 'guilty' for use of a better word, by HMRC.

The old Rangers have appealed the bill they were handed by HMRC, they are not appealling their 'guilt'. All we are waiting for is the appeal tribunal deciding how much the old Rangers owe, it may be £5m or it may be £50m, or a figure anywhere in between. The fact that it is taking so long for them to report back suggests to me, without any way of knowing, that there is something much greater going on with this appeal, and the authorities may be looking at certain individuals and at something far more corrupt than just the missuse of EBT's. But that is just me speculating.