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Old 15-08-2012, 15:56
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When are Rapid Vienna and the other foreign clubs going to get paid?
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Old 15-08-2012, 16:01
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Rapid Vienna's payment isn't due until the end of this month.
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Old 15-08-2012, 16:53
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Rapid Vienna's payment isn't due until the end of this month.
Lol isnt due? There payment was due months ago!!!
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Old 15-08-2012, 17:03
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So the hate campaign against Rangers continues, posters on here continue to slate them, throw accusations at them, once proven wrong, they simply ignore it and throw something else at Rangers.
I suppose if you throw enough sh!t at something, some will stick, i guess that the Rangers haters intention at least.

So, anyway, why do you reckon the spl are not paying dundee utd the money they owe them?

Rangers paid Celtic the 500k they owed them, and they took it gladly, didnt hear anyone questioning why a new club in Div3 was offering the richest club in scottish football 500k for no reason, wheres lennon now, im sure hed be out there shouting had they not received the money.
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Old 15-08-2012, 17:07
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So the hate campaign against Rangers continues, posters on here continue to slate them, throw accusations at them, once proven wrong, they simply ignore it and throw something else at Rangers.
I suppose if you throw enough sh!t at something, some will stick, i guess that the Rangers haters intention at least.

So, anyway, why do you reckon the spl are not paying dundee utd the money they owe them?

Rangers paid Celtic the 500k they owed them, and they took it gladly, didnt hear anyone questioning why a new club in Div3 was offering the richest club in scottish football 500k for no reason, wheres lennon now, im sure hed be out there shouting had they not received the money.
Celtic have never confirmed the debt owed so they will hardly confirm it's paid.

btw it's around £40k.

as for Dundee Utd there has been no agreement made with Green's Rangers by the SPL over who pays the debt.
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Old 15-08-2012, 17:16
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You just criticised a poster for slagging off other clubs, then did just that in the very next line you typed.
If you read my post you will realise that I told the truth. If that relates to both people slagging clubs then that was what I did. I didn't try and deny it - just didn't realise what was was wrong with my post. In fact there is nothing wrong with it whatsoever unless we are all not allowed to laugh at The Rangers FC for their self-inflicted predicament

All I'm saying is that yo lot are reaching orgasmic levels in your support of your Div 3 status whilst laughing at everyone else.

If it is so good then why bother even talking about the SPL
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Old 15-08-2012, 17:19
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There is keeping the faith and then there is blind faith.

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Old 15-08-2012, 17:28
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If you read my post you will realise that I told the truth. If that relates to both people slagging clubs then that was what I did. I didn't try and deny it - just didn't realise what was was wrong with my post. In fact there is nothing wrong with it whatsoever unless we are all not allowed to laugh at The Rangers FC for their self-inflicted predicament

All I'm saying is that yo lot are reaching orgasmic levels in your support of your Div 3 status whilst laughing at everyone else.

If it is so good then why bother even talking about the SPL
You slagged off someone for taking shots at other clubs, then proceeded to do the same thing the next thing you wrote.
What dont you get?
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Old 15-08-2012, 17:34
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as for Dundee Utd there has been no agreement made with Green's Rangers by the SPL over who pays the debt.
Both the SPL and the SFA agreed to pay roughly half the debt each to come from gate/winnings money rangers were supposed to receive.

However the SPL demanded to keep all that money as part of rangers getting its licence transfered, and rangers agreed to that.

Now, the SFA have paid their part, the SPL are saying they cant/wont pay their part as their is no money to pay it from.

If dundee utd had did what other clubs did and wait off, they would have been paid off Rangers by now, however they went to the SPL/SFA, that was a mistake, as it looks like the SPL are trying to shaft them for the money.
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Old 15-08-2012, 17:36
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Lol isnt due? There payment was due months ago!!!
It will still be due for years to come, as Rangers have no legal need to pay it, charles green may pay up, who knows, but he doesnt have to.
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Old 15-08-2012, 17:38
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Both the SPL and the SFA agreed to pay roughly half the debt each to come from gate/winnings money rangers were supposed to receive.

However the SPL demanded to keep all that money as part of rangers getting its licence transfered, and rangers agreed to that.

Now, the SFA have paid their part, the SPL are saying they cant/wont pay their part as their is no money to pay it from.

If dundee utd had did what other clubs did and wait off, they would have been paid off Rangers by now, however they went to the SPL/SFA, that was a mistake, as it looks like the SPL are trying to shaft them for the money.
Any deal was before Green created the new Rangers so it's should be up to Green to double check who is paying who before proclaiming all debts to Scottish clubs have been paid.

Bit like the boy Murray proclaiming The new Rangers are 'debt free' when everyone knows that is not the case.
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Old 15-08-2012, 17:39
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It will still be due for years to come, as Rangers have no legal need to pay it, charles green may pay up, who knows, but he doesnt have to.
so who do Everton pay?
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Old 15-08-2012, 17:47
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Any deal was before Green created the new Rangers so it's should be up to Green to double check who is paying who before proclaiming all debts to Scottish clubs have been paid.

Bit like the boy Murray proclaiming The new Rangers are 'debt free' when everyone knows that is not the case.
It is all perfectly clear what was to happen, the SPL cant or wont pay what they owe, that is between them and Dundee utd

perhaps if i am wrong, the SFA will ask Dundee utd for their money back, as they obviously made the same error as me, and assumed they were paying half, and the SPL were paying the other half, if that isnt the case, i see a court case on the horizon, bad tidings for the SPL.
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Old 15-08-2012, 18:04
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It is all perfectly clear what was to happen, the SPL cant or wont pay what they owe, that is between them and Dundee utd

perhaps if i am wrong, the SFA will ask Dundee utd for their money back, as they obviously made the same error as me, and assumed they were paying half, and the SPL were paying the other half, if that isnt the case, i see a court case on the horizon, bad tidings for the SPL.
The debt was incurred as a result of an SFA competition (Scottish Cup) - by rights the SPL didn't need to make any agreement to pay the debt at all.

The money should actually come from the SFA who in turn would need to seek recompense from Rangers either Old or New.
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Old 15-08-2012, 18:20
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by rights the SPL didn't need to make any agreement to pay the debt at all.
By the same token, Rangers didnt need to make any payments to any of its Debtors either.

However as is also the case with the SPL, they made an agreement to do so anyway, out of that, Rangers got their licence transfered, and the spl got a Tv deal and got Rangers to waive any claim to the prize money they were owed.

The agreement is there in writing i believe, so im sure the truth will out eventually.

Dundee utd and Rangers have written letters from the SPL stating they will be paying their share of the debt to Dundee utd, not sure how the SPL can try and wrangle out of this.

Sporting integrity indeed,
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Old 15-08-2012, 18:32
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You slagged off someone for taking shots at other clubs, then proceeded to do the same thing the next thing you wrote.
What dont you get?
No, I didn't

I just stated that you and your fellow supporters seem to be genuinely() enjoying life in SFL3 and was proposing that as you were having such a good time slagging of the SPL and all other fans were having a great time - a really great laugh - at your demise then, perhaps, it would be good for all if you stayed in SFL3.

Let's be honest, there is a great chance that we will all be happy next season as well
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Old 15-08-2012, 18:39
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No, I didn't

I just stated that you and your fellow supporters seem to be genuinely() enjoying life in SFL3 and was proposing that as you were having such a good time slagging of the SPL and all other fans were having a great time - a really great laugh - at your demise then, perhaps, it would be good for all if you stayed in SFL3.

Let's be honest, there is a great chance that we will all be happy next season as well
We shall have to agree to disagree.

But yes, dont know how this season will go for rangers, it isnt going to be a walk over, but hopefully over the coming months all the money/contract/debts and punishments will be over with, and we can all move on to what is important, the game of football.
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Old 15-08-2012, 19:08
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By the same token, Rangers didnt need to make any payments to any of its Debtors either.

However as is also the case with the SPL, they made an agreement to do so anyway, out of that, Rangers got their licence transfered, and the spl got a Tv deal and got Rangers to waive any claim to the prize money they were owed.

The agreement is there in writing i believe, so im sure the truth will out eventually.

Dundee utd and Rangers have written letters from the SPL stating they will be paying their share of the debt to Dundee utd, not sure how the SPL can try and wrangle out of this.

Sporting integrity indeed,
There was no agreement with Green's Rangers.

By the same token Everton do not need to pay Green's Rangers for Jelavic.
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Old 15-08-2012, 19:24
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There was no agreement with Green's Rangers.

By the same token Everton do not need to pay Green's Rangers for Jelavic.
You are right. there was no legal requirement for them to pay.

However, that changed when the SPL agreed to the deal that both it and the SFA would jointly pay the debt owed, payment to come from the money that was originally intended to Rangers as prize money.

If that deal hadnt been done then you are right, the SPL would not need to pay, but now they agreed to do so, they must honour that.

If Dundee had did what other scottish clubs did, and just wait and see what happens, rather than trying to get the money from the spl, they would have had the money direct from Rangers last week.

The SPL is shafting Dundee over this, now Dundee are seeing other clubs getting the money they are owed from rangers, they want theirs.

But they are looking in the wrong place, the SPLm owe the money, not Rangers.

The SPL is in serious trouble here, it cant even afford to pay Dundee united the 30k its owed, never mind the SFL the millions it owes to them.
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Old 15-08-2012, 19:57
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You are right. there was no legal requirement for them to pay.

However, that changed when the SPL agreed to the deal that both it and the SFA would jointly pay the debt owed, payment to come from the money that was originally intended to Rangers as prize money.

If that deal hadnt been done then you are right, the SPL would not need to pay, but now they agreed to do so, they must honour that.

If Dundee had did what other scottish clubs did, and just wait and see what happens, rather than trying to get the money from the spl, they would have had the money direct from Rangers last week.

The SPL is shafting Dundee over this, now Dundee are seeing other clubs getting the money they are owed from rangers, they want theirs.

But they are looking in the wrong place, the SPLm owe the money, not Rangers.

The SPL is in serious trouble here, it cant even afford to pay Dundee united the 30k its owed, never mind the SFL the millions it owes to them.
The agreement was with the OldCo for OldCo debt, however the debt is now with the NewCo so is therefore NewCo debt.

The SPL aren't going to pay the OldCo for a debt no longer there.
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Old 15-08-2012, 20:32
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The agreement was with the OldCo for OldCo debt, however the debt is now with the NewCo so is therefore NewCo debt.

The SPL aren't going to pay the OldCo for a debt no longer there.
Debts dont transfer over between companies, when the old company died, all its debt died with it.
However Rangers offered up that it was only fair it pay all its scottish football debts none the less.

that was agreed, along with the Dundee utd debt being paid by both the sfa and spl jointly, and the money rangers being owed to rangers forfeited and held by the spl.

rangers did their part by paying out the clubs awaiting payment from them, the SFA did their part paying their half, now we are waiting on the SPL paying their part, but they are trying to avoid it.

The SPL need to pay up what they agreed here.

To be honest, i think you know all this already,and are just hoping to stir it up a bit, perhaps hoping that some readers may not know the facts and believe you.

The SPL should pay up, if it cant, its debts should be called in.
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Old 15-08-2012, 20:32
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Great bit of officiating in the Scotland game. The ball was over the goal line for a corner, then in the follow up shot it was over the line for a goal, then it hit Fox's hand and came back out without a penalty being given. Three errors in one.

Although since then there's been two great goals.
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Old 15-08-2012, 20:38
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That would explain where Bhoy 07 gets his information from!
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Old 15-08-2012, 20:40
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Debts dont transfer over between companies, when the old company died, all its debt died with it.
However Rangers offered up that it was only fair it pay all its scottish football debts none the less.

that was agreed, along with the Dundee utd debt being paid by both the sfa and spl jointly, and the money rangers being owed to rangers forfeited and held by the spl.

rangers did their part by paying out the clubs awaiting payment from them, the SFA did their part paying their half, now we are waiting on the SPL paying their part, but they are trying to avoid it.

The SPL need to pay up what they agreed here.

To be honest, i think you know all this already,and are just hoping to stir it up a bit, perhaps hoping that some readers may not know the facts and believe you.

The SPL should pay up, if it cant, its debts should be called in.
Again the SPL did not make any agreement with Green's Rangers. The SFA hasn't made any agreement with Green's Rangers.

The agreement was made with the OldCo, just because Green decided to take on the debt of the OldCo doesn't automatically mean the agreement with the SPL went with it - seems Green has assumed it has.

Maybe if Green hadn't called folk 'bigots' and McCoist hadn't flapped his gums at the SPL witholding prize money the SPL might have been a bit more helpful.
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Old 15-08-2012, 20:41
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That would explain where Bhoy 07 gets his information from!
I have been referred to as Jesus Christ - although not sure on the context.
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