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Old 15-08-2012, 20:59
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I have been referred to as Jesus Christ - although not sure on the context.
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Old 15-08-2012, 21:02
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Again the SPL did not make any agreement with Green's Rangers. The SFA hasn't made any agreement with Green's Rangers.

The agreement was made with the OldCo, just because Green decided to take on the debt of the OldCo doesn't automatically mean the agreement with the SPL went with it - seems Green has assumed it has.

Maybe if Green hadn't called folk 'bigots' and McCoist hadn't flapped his gums at the SPL witholding prize money the SPL might have been a bit more helpful.
So you are claiming that the SPL are using this opportunity to punish rangers?

I will say it again, The SPL had a deal with Rangers, the SFA and Dundee utd, no matter what you or the SPL want to beleive, that is still in place.

As i also said, it is a 4 way deal, are we now saying all deals made are now off because the SPL said so?
That being the case, the SFA should be asking dundee utd for its money back for its part of its debt it paid.

Can Rangers also demand the money it is owed (was it £2.5m) be paid to oldco and divied up to its creditors?
After all. the deals no longer valid.

Both Rangers and Dundee united have letters from the SPL stating that they take responsibillity for the debt and will be paying it in due course.

Not sure why you are insisting on otherwise, other than the fact it is another oppertunity for you to put another boot into Rangers.
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Old 15-08-2012, 21:03
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i see Rangers season tickets are on the verge of selling out, they had to close the website down due to too high demand.
Looks like saturday will be a capacity crowd at Ibrox.
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Old 15-08-2012, 21:16
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Old 15-08-2012, 21:19
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i see Rangers season tickets are on the verge of selling out, they had to close the website down due to too high demand.
Looks like saturday will be a capacity crowd at Ibrox.


You couldn't make this up ... hilarious. It really is hilarious, apologies but it is

Can you feel the excitement brewing within the higher echelons of European football. Wonder if the Real Madrid players will be tuning in to take stock of the 'pure class' on offer.
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Old 15-08-2012, 21:23
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So you are claiming that the SPL are using this opportunity to punish rangers?

I will say it again, The SPL had a deal with Rangers, the SFA and Dundee utd, no matter what you or the SPL want to beleive, that is still in place.

As i also said, it is a 4 way deal, are we now saying all deals made are now off because the SPL said so?
That being the case, the SFA should be asking dundee utd for its money back for its part of its debt it paid.

Can Rangers also demand the money it is owed (was it £2.5m) be paid to oldco and divied up to its creditors?
After all. the deals no longer valid.

Both Rangers and Dundee united have letters from the SPL stating that they take responsibillity for the debt and will be paying it in due course.

Not sure why you are insisting on otherwise, other than the fact it is another oppertunity for you to put another boot into Rangers.
I'm mearly pointing out that unless the SPL agreed with Green to transfer the deal to the NewCo, Green has no deal with the SPL over the debt he decided to take on.

The SFA paid half the debt out of the prize money owed to OldCo while OldCo was still playing football. It should be the responsibility of the SFA to make sure D'Utd receive the rest.

It could be that the SPL prize money payment was due before the liquidation process begun therefore the SPL would need to honour the agreement, otherwise it will probably be up to the SFA to decide.
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Old 15-08-2012, 21:34
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I'm mearly pointing out that unless the SPL agreed with Green to transfer the deal to the NewCo, Green has no deal with the SPL over the debt he decided to take on.

The SFA paid half the debt out of the prize money owed to OldCo while OldCo was still playing football. It should be the responsibility of the SFA to make sure D'Utd receive the rest.
Rangers completed its part of the deal, as did the SFA, the SPL are the only ones not sticking to the deal they agreed with the other three parties.
The SFa may well need to step in, however since they are part of the deal, it may be a conflict of interest and they may need to pass it on to someone independent.

if it does, i doubt anyone independent would rule that Rangers owes the money, as that isnt what the SPL agreed to.

I really dont know why Dundee united got the SPL/SFA involved in the first place, if they hadn't, Rangers would have paid them by now, unfortunately for them, they agreed to allow the SPL to pay them instead, and now the SPL are refusing to do so.
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Old 15-08-2012, 21:38
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You couldn't make this up ... hilarious. It really is hilarious, apologies but it is

Can you feel the excitement brewing within the higher echelons of European football. Wonder if the Real Madrid players will be tuning in to take stock of the 'pure class' on offer.
Are you still at it?,
You just cant help having a dig can you?

Remember only earlier today you were slating another poster for doing the same.

I think you need to remember this the next time you take the moral high ground with anyone on here.
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Old 15-08-2012, 21:40
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Rangers completed its part of the deal, as did the SFA, the SPL are the only ones not sticking to the deal they agreed with the other three parties.
The SFa may well need to step in, however since they are part of the deal, it may be a conflict of interest and they may need to pass it on to someone independent.

if it does, i doubt anyone independent would rule that Rangers owes the money, as that isnt what the SPL agreed to.

I really dont know why Dundee united got the SPL/SFA involved in the first place, if they hadn't, Rangers would have paid them by now, unfortunately for them, they agreed to allow the SPL to pay them instead, and now the SPL are refusing to do so.
The SFA are involved because Whyte never paid the gate money due to D'Utd within the time limit after the SC tie, IIRC Rangers had just entered administration just before the end of the limit. Hence why the SFA had paid half the money to D'Utd.

All this could have also been resolved if the RFFF had decided to pay the other half instead of that 'club of honour' crap - mearly a point I'm making as that was in March.

There may well be Rangers fans angry at the SPL for not paying the money, however how many of them agreed with the RFFF?
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Old 15-08-2012, 21:54
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Seems a decent result for Scotland - does that mean Harry Potter keeps his job for a bit longer?

Poor Ian Black.
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Old 15-08-2012, 21:55
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The SFA are involved because Whyte never paid the gate money due to D'Utd within the time limit after the SC tie, IIRC Rangers had just entered administration just before the end of the limit. Hence why the SFA had paid half the money to D'Utd.

So Dundee utd panicked at the thought of losing the money, cant say i blame them....fair point.

All this could have also been resolved if the RFFF had decided to pay the other half instead of that 'club of honour' crap - mearly a point I'm making as that was in March.

I assume you were just using it as an example, as no fan of any club is going to give its own money to another club, while its own is in financial difficuilties.

There may well be Rangers fans angry at the SPL for not paying the money, however how many of them agreed with the RFFF?

From what i have seen angry may be the wrong word, confused and unsurprised sounds more right.
Rangers fans seem to think anything is possible when it comes to the decisions made by the SFA/SPL


As for how many agreed with the RFFF, not a clue, i actually had to google it, looking on their forums it looks like a desperate last ditch chance to save the club, not sure how successful it was....well not successful at all as they couldn't muster a bid, but i think it kept the club playing til the end of season.
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Old 15-08-2012, 21:56
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Good performance at Easter road from Scotland and a well deserved win.
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Old 15-08-2012, 21:58
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Poor Ian Black.
shameful stuff.
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Old 15-08-2012, 21:58
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Seems a decent result for Scotland - does that mean Harry Potter keeps his job for a bit longer?

Poor Ian Black.
Was a good performance

Ian Black, shouldn't have been picked, shouldnt have been brought on but he didn't deserve to be booed, not his fault he was called up while lacking the ambition to play at a higher level
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Old 15-08-2012, 22:03
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Well done Scotland........proud!!
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Old 15-08-2012, 22:06
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This was on SS1, truly embarrassed that bigoted "football fans" would boo their own players.

What will the folk watching in England think they are booing for?

Bloke in pub: "hey paul, why are they booing that ian Black guy"

Other bloke: Oh He plays for rangers, and all the big teams in scotland hate Rangers.

Theres no bigots in the SPL. I repeat, there is no bigots in the SPL!!!

i wonder what inventive ways this will be pinned on Rangers?
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Old 15-08-2012, 22:12
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Ian Black was picked because of his SPL form last season at Hearts while being one of the most hated players in the SPL.

Then he makes his debut for Scotland at Easter Road, home of Hibs and people wonder why he was booed.
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Old 15-08-2012, 22:13
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You couldn't make this up ... hilarious. It really is hilarious, apologies but it is

Can you feel the excitement brewing within the higher echelons of European football. Wonder if the Real Madrid players will be tuning in to take stock of the 'pure class' on offer.
How are your beloved QPR? Sold anywhere near even 10,000 season tickets? You are a QPR fan aren't you? Albeit with a strange obsession/hatred with Rangers and their supporters
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Old 15-08-2012, 22:13
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This was on SS1, truly embarrassed that bigoted "football fans" would boo their own players.
So fans voicing their displeasure that a player from the 4th tier of Scottish football was playing for Scotland is now bigoted? I'm sure the the Tartan Army would be over the moon if Rory McAllister was called up in the next squad, then again maybe not.....

What will the folk watching in England think they are booing for?
I'm sure English football fans would rather have watched Scotland v Australia instead of England v Italy.
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Old 15-08-2012, 22:13
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How are your beloved QPR? Sold anywhere near even 10,000 season tickets? You are a QPR fan aren't you? Albeit with a strange obsession/hatred with Rangers and their supporters
QPR have already sold out of season tickets for the upcoming EPL season.

http://www.qpr.co.uk/tickets/season-tickets/
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Old 15-08-2012, 22:14
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This was on SS1, truly embarrassed that bigoted "football fans" would boo their own players.

What will the folk watching in England think they are booing for?

Bloke in pub: "hey paul, why are they booing that ian Black guy"

Other bloke: Oh He plays for rangers, and all the big teams in scotland hate Rangers.

Theres no bigots in the SPL. I repeat, there is no bigots in the SPL!!!

i wonder what inventive ways this will be pinned on Rangers?
The booing had f**k all to do with who he plays for, more what division he plays in, he shouldn't have been picked but he shouldn't have been booed
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Old 15-08-2012, 22:18
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The booing had f**k all to do with who he plays for, more what division he plays in, he shouldn't have been picked but he shouldn't have been booed
Oh, please, plain old hatred and bigotry at play.
An embarrassment to Scottish football.
those "fans" should be ashamed of their conduct tonight.

Good result though, well played.
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Old 15-08-2012, 22:21
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Decent performance from Scotland, although Australia were really pretty poor. Quality wise I don't think Australia would have a hope if they had to play in a European qualifying group.
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Old 15-08-2012, 22:24
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Oh, please, plain old hatred and bigotry at play.
An embarrassment to Scottish football.
those "fans" should be ashamed of their conduct tonight.

Good result though, well played.
Steven Naismith, Charlie Adam, Allan Hutton, Allan Mcgregor all former rangers players never got booed, Ian black is not good enough to play for Scotland never has been and never will be especially now he is playing in the 3rd division
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Old 15-08-2012, 22:27
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QPR have already sold out of season tickets for the upcoming EPL season.

http://www.qpr.co.uk/tickets/season-tickets/
Not that QPR has anything to do with this but, that equates to about 9k
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