[Landis]

Originally Posted by Tassium

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Ed Miliband could actually take a vow of silence and even with the Conservatives gerrymandering of the GE, Labour would still win.

I think that is unlikely. In fact I would love to know how many people who work for YouGov actually believe that if we had a general election tomorrow, we would see Ed Miliband walking into Number 10 on Wednesday.
However, three things can change everything:
1. Change leader to the other Miliband
2. Move Ed Balls to another dept....
3. NHS gets into (more) difficulty and public blame tory reforms.
At that point I will really believe the polls....

[clitheroe1]

Originally Posted by biggle2000

Sorry but I voted labour ever since I was old enough. I have to admit I was the type of person that would have voted for a 'monkey with a red rosette', that is, until Gordon Brown. I simply couldn't bring myself to vote labour with him at the helm and his successor is even worse. I voted conservative for the first time in 2010 and labour and their bumbling so called leader (trade union puppet) have yet to convince me otherwise. If TB was to be reinstated as leader that might just give me something to think about. Otherwise forget it. Dave gets my vote over the trade unions Pinocchio any day!

Ed Milliband is not a trade union puppet and has disasgreed with the union position on many issues. The right wing media portrayal of "Red Ed" is nothing like the reality. However, it is better to be in touch with the views of trade unionists than being in the back pocket of people in the banking and finacial industries that provide Cameron with a third of his party's funding.

[David Tee]

Originally Posted by clitheroe1

Ed Milliband is not a trade union puppet and has disasgreed with the union position on many issues. The right wing media portrayal of "Red Ed" is nothing like the reality. However, it is better to be in touch with the views of trade unionists than being in the back pocket of people in the banking and finacial industries that provide Cameron with a third of his party's funding.

My favourite post this month.

[RandomJointer]

Blair will never be the Labour leader again but he is the most successful Labour leader ever. His counsel will be invaluable to Ed. Having him on-board will only help Labour.

As things stand Tory economic policy is in tatters, the Liberals are electoral toast and an election held tomorrow would return a workable Labour majority.

Edd would be wise to continue his current path. The Tory minority government will cling on as long as they can. Cling on despite the unpopularity, cling on despite being a government nobody voted for. Cling on despite the catastrophic economic policy and the Tory death spiral trashing the economy and putting hard working families out of work. We all suffer but we all know the destiny is in Edd's hands.

We need an election now to put this incompetent and corrupt government to bed.

An incompetent and corrupt government without clue that troughs whilst hard working families suffer. Sadly, as Edd and Blair knows, we are not going to get one until they are forced to go to the country.

[biggle2000]

Originally Posted by clitheroe1

Ed Milliband is not a trade union puppet and has disasgreed with the union position on many issues. The right wing media portrayal of "Red Ed" is nothing like the reality. However, it is better to be in touch with the views of trade unionists than being in the back pocket of people in the banking and finacial industries that provide Cameron with a third of his party's funding.

He's not just in touch with the trade unions, Ed has strings attached to his hands and feet that are definitely being pulled by the trade unions. Besides, any man capable of stabbing his brother in the back the way Ed did does not deserve public trust.

[StalwartUK]

...and watch the Labour poll figures drop like a stone.

[clitheroe1]

Originally Posted by biggle2000

He's not just in touch with the trade unions, Ed has strings attached to his hands and feet that are definitely being pulled by the trade unions. Besides, any man capable of stabbing his brother in the back the way Ed did does not deserve public trust.

This is total fiction. What's your evidence for this other than regurgitating the same old inaccurate clichés put forward by Conservative Central Office and the right-wing Press?

How exactly did Ed Milliband stab is brother in the back? David Milliand didn't have a god given right to lead Labour so why shouldn't Ed put himself forward for the role? He was elected by a democratic process which is hardly back stabbing.

[biggle2000]

Originally Posted by clitheroe1

This is total fiction. What's your evidence for this other than regurgitating the same old inaccurate clichés put forward by Conservative Central Office and the right-wing Press?

How exactly did Ed Milliband stab is brother in the back? David Milliand didn't have a god given right to lead Labour so why shouldn't Ed put himself forward for the role? He was elected by a democratic process which is hardly back stabbing.

Tell me, if you were applying for a job that was your dream job and would be the pinnacle of your career, and your brother stepped in at the last minute and got the job you'd wanted. Would you not say that that was stabbing you in the back. If my brother had done that to me I would never speak to him again. I am not saying that David had a god given right to the job but, by god, he had the right for his brother not to stand against him. Pure evil!

[Annsyre]

More 'photo opportunities with Blair and his charming wife alongside Ed and his wife are just what the Labour Party needs especially as Ed has just visited the Durham Gala. This shows him to be a man of all of the people, not just left wing unionists. It shows that he is perfectly at ease with rubbing shoulders with millionaires. Good for him. Keep it up Ed.

[Annsyre]

Originally Posted by biggle2000

Tell me, if you were applying for a job that was your dream job and would be the pinnacle of your career, and your brother stepped in at the last minute and got the job you'd wanted. Would you not say that that was stabbing you in the back. If my brother had done that to me I would never speak to him again. I am not saying that David had a god given right to the job but, by god, he had the right for his brother not to stand against him. Pure evil!

If it was the choice of the employers then it would be absolutely fair.

In Ed's case he got more votes that his brother and won fair and square.

[clitheroe1]

Originally Posted by biggle2000

Tell me, if you were applying for a job that was your dream job and would be the pinnacle of your career, and your brother stepped in at the last minute and got the job you'd wanted. Would you not say that that was stabbing you in the back. If my brother had done that to me I would never speak to him again. I am not saying that David had a god given right to the job but, by god, he had the right for his brother not to stand against him. Pure evil!

If it was also my brother's dream job I would be happy for him if he got it. What happened to older brothers looking out for and supporting their younger siblings? Ed has acted totally honourably and now it's for his older brother to do his utmost to ensure that Ed is elected Prime Minister at the next General Election.

[flobadob]

What's the point of making TB leader of the Labour Party? If you want a right-wing millionaire as PM, you can vote for Dave Cameron.

[gummy mummy]

Originally Posted by biggle2000

Tell me, if you were applying for a job that was your dream job and would be the pinnacle of your career, and your brother stepped in at the last minute and got the job you'd wanted. Would you not say that that was stabbing you in the back. If my brother had done that to me I would never speak to him again. I am not saying that David had a god given right to the job but, by god, he had the right for his brother not to stand against him. Pure evil!

Has David Miliband ever publicly said his younger brother Ed has stabbed him in the back or is it just a load of hyperbole and sour grapes dreamt up by the media and the people who wanted David M to become leader. ?

[spiney2]

obviously tony is forever "george's poodle" so unelectable. it was the discovery he had secretly agreed to regime toppling, then looked for a pretext. even though just about everyone - at first - believed saddam's WMDs did exist ......

[CRTHD]

If Ed keeps on cosying-up to the unions, Blair (along with auntie Mandie) will probably stand behind Cameron!

[Soppyfan]

Originally Posted by Landis

I think that is unlikely. In fact I would love to know how many people who work for YouGov actually believe that if we had a general election tomorrow, we would see Ed Miliband walking into Number 10 on Wednesday.

The people who work there must be Labour voters, it's obvious.

[Julie68]

The daft thing is is that if Tony Blair got leadership of the labour party, people are stupid enough to vote him back into power.
They'll forget that it was Tony Blair who started the mess that this country is in.

[clitheroe1]

Originally Posted by Julie68

The daft thing is is that if Tony Blair got leadership of the labour party, people are stupid enough to vote him back into power.
They'll forget that it was Tony Blair who started the mess that this country is in.

Actually, it started with Margaret Thatcher deregulating the banks.

The Labour Party have fallen out of love with Tony Blair so I think it would be inconceiveable that he would elected leader again and I doubt very much whether he would seek the job.

[reglip]

Originally Posted by biggle2000

He's not just in touch with the trade unions, Ed has strings attached to his hands and feet that are definitely being pulled by the trade unions. Besides, any man capable of stabbing his brother in the back the way Ed did does not deserve public trust.

So you'll be able to point to where he has publically supported strike action then?

[Caxton]

Tony Blair to replace Ed?

I have heard of heart, kidney and even face transplants but Tony Blair replacing his 'ed is a new one on me

[butty92]

Tony Blair created the mess the Labour party got in. He stepped down at the right moment, so the blame would be given to Gordon Brown, who was fighting a losing battle. Labour needs to move and bring in new fresh blood to be a credible opposition and candidate for the next government, not go back to the old suit.

[biggle2000]

Originally Posted by Annsyre

If it was the choice of the employers then it would be absolutely fair.

In Ed's case he got more votes that his brother and won fair and square.

That's not the point. The point is that anyone else could have gone up against David but his own brother should not have. It was in poor taste and just proves that Ed the red is totally unprincipled. There is only scum would go up against their own brother.

[biggle2000]

Originally Posted by Caxton

Tony Blair to replace Ed?

I have heard of heart, kidney and even face transplants but Tony Blair replacing his 'ed is a new one on me

[Annsyre]

Originally Posted by Caxton

Tony Blair to replace Ed?

I have heard of heart, kidney and even face transplants but Tony Blair replacing his 'ed is a new one on me

Oh ye of little faith. The Daily Telegraph thinks that Miliband is the Lazarus of politics.

[Rikki65]

Labour would still be in if Blair was still leader. He won his last election with an albeit small majority post Iraq which is more than can be said for Cameron's efforts. I'd welcome TB back with open arms; imo the best prime minister in my lifetime.