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Anyone else excited about Mars Curiosity landing on Aug 6th?
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1066andallthat
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by exlordlucan:
“What if it gets held up in traffic, you'll have wasted a day off.”

I'm so sad that I subscribe to emails from NASA which has informed me of every correction to the flight path and every test that has been done on internal instruments.

By the way, in case anyone is worried, they've all worked perfectly!!!
KIIS102
17-07-2012
Didn't know this was happening, love this stuff so will keep up to dates with what happens. Hope it lands safely like the previous probes. Maybe it's me but I always feel a bit sad thinking something we've made is millions of miles from it's home alone, I know it's just a machine but still.

Hopefully we get tons of new pictures from the Red Planet over the new few weeks and months!
1066andallthat
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by Phoenix Lazarus:
“I'll be more excited when there's an actual manned mission to Mars.

I can just imagine, when that happens, it will be made into a really cheesy event, with the reporting on it being accompanied by frequent playing of David Bowie, Life on Mars.”

I would want our first manned mission to Mars to be one way.

Why?

The cost to bring them back would be astronomical.

There is an obvious advantage to having humans on Mars as robotic instruments are pretty mediocre.

Surely, there are two or three people who would be willing to sacrifice their lives to become famous throughout the rest of human history?

If I had the skills I would consider it (but I'm 51!).
1066andallthat
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by KIIS102:
“Didn't know this was happening, love this stuff so will keep up to dates with what happens. Hope it lands safely like the previous probes. Maybe it's me but I always feel a bit sad thinking something we've made is millions of miles from it's home alone, I know it's just a machine but still.

Hopefully we get tons of new pictures from the Red Planet over the new few weeks and months!”

I love this stuff.

I get NASA emails about the two Voyager missions which are now moving beyond the solar system (launched in the '70s). The first thing that humans have sent out beyond our solar system and they are still beeping away sending us data. They are telling us what it is like at the limits of the effect of the Sun.

The two human made Voyager craft will travel through the universe long after Earth exists. Earth will be destroyed in about 4-5 billion years yet the two Voyager craft will still be drifting along.

I find the thought of that astounding.
1066andallthat
17-07-2012
Just by chance, NASA have just sent me an email to explain how people on DigitalSpy can keep track of this mission:

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cf...lease_2012-205
Stever7
17-07-2012
It's odd, considering this type of thing is one of the fields I may end up in, I never really follow live feeds from it. The only exception is some of the shuttle launches that I've watched
Batwing
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by 1066andallthat:
“I sent my brother the simulated video of the landing and told him the mission cost $2.5 billion and was the most exciting search for life in our solar system ever as well as being the most technically challenging landing ever...

What a miserable reply I got saying it was a waste of money...

I replied that we are spending 4x that for a three week sports' festival called the Olympics.”

Tell him Americans are paying for their rover, not him.
jzee
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by KIIS102:
“Didn't know this was happening, love this stuff so will keep up to dates with what happens. Hope it lands safely like the previous probes. ”

It's the biggest lander yet, the size of a car!
Originally Posted by KIIS102:
“Maybe it's me but I always feel a bit sad thinking something we've made is millions of miles from it's home alone, I know it's just a machine but still.”

Don't worry, it will have all the other landers there to keep it company, maybe it can go and find the Beagle?
Originally Posted by 1066andallthat:
“Just by chance, NASA have just sent me an email to explain how people on DigitalSpy can keep track of this mission:

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cf...lease_2012-205”

Thx for that.
Batwing
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by 1066andallthat:
“While they are using their (expensive, developing world exploiting) iPad or iMacs no doubt.”

You mean like every other product made in China?
fordj
17-07-2012
I'm excited about New Horizons arriving at Pluto in 2015, so I'm very excited about this.

Planet Mars Facts
TelevisionUser
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by Phoenix Lazarus:
“I'll be more excited when there's an actual manned mission to Mars.

I can just imagine, when that happens, it will be made into a really cheesy event, with the reporting on it being accompanied by frequent playing of David Bowie, Life on Mars.”

Originally Posted by 1066andallthat:
“I would want our first manned mission to Mars to be one way.

Why?

The cost to bring them back would be astronomical.

There is an obvious advantage to having humans on Mars as robotic instruments are pretty mediocre.

Surely, there are two or three people who would be willing to sacrifice their lives to become famous throughout the rest of human history?

If I had the skills I would consider it (but I'm 51!).”

It's not cost that's the problem but political will. For example, President George W. Bush spent over $300 billion on Operation Iraqi Oil and Prime Minister Blair spent $15 billion on the same reckless escapade.

That would translate into 60 American crewed return missions to Mars and 3 British crewed return missions to Mars. Aerospace engineer and consultant Robert Zubrin has shown that you can get to Mars and back for about $5 billion per mission if Martian resources are utilised and that was described in his book The Case for Mars which I highly recommend. It's about £10 new in paperback form.

In the meantime, I'd also like to see robot sample and return missions to both Mars and its largest moon, Phobos, using the techniques pioneered by the Soviets to bring back their own rock and soil samples from the Moon which they successfully did as part of their Luna series of probes. That aspect of the Soviet space programme is little known and the Soviets do deserve credit for what they achieved.
YoungAtHeart
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by 1066andallthat:
“I would want our first manned mission to Mars to be one way.

Why?

The cost to bring them back would be astronomical.

There is an obvious advantage to having humans on Mars as robotic instruments are pretty mediocre.

Surely, there are two or three people who would be willing to sacrifice their lives to become famous throughout the rest of human history?

If I had the skills I would consider it (but I'm 51!).”

I'll go! I'll do it! I'll just get my coat....

There again, I'm probably too old too. Damn that age thing!
tenofspades
17-07-2012
So what will this find over what the Mars pathfinders did not?
~Twinkle~
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by tenofspades:
“So what will this find over what the Mars pathfinders did not?”

Can your question be answered? No one knows what it will find because it hasn't been found yet.
phylo_roadking
17-07-2012
Quote:
“...and 3 British crewed return missions to Mars...”

...stopping off at the Moon to take on coal...
TelevisionUser
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by phylo_roadking:
“...stopping off at the Moon to take on coal...”

...which is then stored in the rear end of the British crew capsule which itself looks scarily reminiscent of a reused Austin Allegro !
balthasar
17-07-2012
The hover and lower part of of the landing mission in the video, looks very ambitious.

Sort of thing the gremlins of Mars would have a field day with !
phylo_roadking
17-07-2012
Nah, move up a generation....to fibreglass!

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3200/3...7c7f2b27_z.jpg
Caldari
17-07-2012
I'm very interested in seeing how the new 'sky crane' landing system fares.
KJ44
17-07-2012
Whoever came up with that landing method must have balls of steel.
Caldari
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by KJ44:
“Whoever came up with that landing method must have balls of steel. ”

Quick video with some of the NASA bods responsible explaining EDL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cu..._of_Terror.ogv
1066andallthat
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by Batwing:
“Tell him Americans are paying for their rover, not him.”

He is a (very successful) business man.

He just does no like to hear about bad investments (in his pathetically limited terms).
1066andallthat
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by Stever7:
“It's odd, considering this type of thing is one of the fields I may end up in, I never really follow live feeds from it. The only exception is some of the shuttle launches that I've watched”

I don't want to be judgemental but that sort of comment shows that you will not be successful. Sorry.
1066andallthat
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by tenofspades:
“So what will this find over what the Mars pathfinders did not?”

You have won the prize for being the first ignorant negative post of this thread!

Well done!

Go and look at the NASA web site to see what Curiosity is aiming to achieve. I am not going to condense it into byte sized chunks for ignoramuses like you.
1066andallthat
17-07-2012
Originally Posted by ~Twinkle~:
“Can your question be answered? No one knows what it will find because it hasn't been found yet. ”

I disagree and your comment illuminates a big misunderstanding in science.

All tests done by Curiosity will answer questions posed by scientists back here on earth.

The scientific questions that Curiosity may answer are not just "out there" waiting to be answered.

Scientists and engineers have posed questions and designed experiments to answer these questions.

They are not grabbing in the dark.

I'm 51 but I am hopeful that, in my lifetime, we will confirm life on another planet in our solar system or life on planets outside our solar system (exoplanets).

When proved to be true, all world religions will need to perform a radical rethink to remain credible.
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