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Old 17-07-2012, 01:09
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Seems to be something in the British pschye that means it makes a bad h/m because they want to win. Hell, if I went in there ( which I would never do cos I would thrown out in the first week -I could not keep my mouth shut long enough not to be nominated/ or calling someone out i.e Conor over his behaviour re Deana). But if I was ever stupid enough to apply - I would want to win. So why are people syaing that wanting to win is a bad thing. Is it the methods they use to get to the prize? Or do we just like losers/underdogs.
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:11
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It depends on how much you want it, how little you care about other aspects of BB, and what methods you use to try to win.
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:12
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the uk is the only place i've seen that looks down on people game playing in a game.

"he's game playing". get him out!!!!

...in a game.

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Old 17-07-2012, 01:13
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Nothing wrong with wanting to win at all. That's not the issue. It's how you treat others on the climb up.
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:13
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Seems to be something in the British pschye that means it makes a bad h/m because they want to win. Hell, if I went in there ( which I would never do cos I would thrown out in the first week -I could not keep my mouth shut long enough not to be nominated/ or calling someone out i.e Conor over his behaviour re Deana). But if I was ever stupid enough to apply - I would want to win. So why are people syaing that wanting to win is a bad thing. Is it the methods they use to get to the prize? Or do we just like losers/underdogs.
I am watching BB1 at the mo, and ringing through my head is, the song ....'its only a gameshow, its only a gameshow, its only a gameshow, its only a gameshowwwww' watch BB1 if you want to know what i mean.

Oh and I love the gameplayers, they make the shows
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:14
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I don't have a problem with people wanting to win, but it does annoy me when they start putting on an act that they think the public will like ie Funtime Conor's contrived antics and pranks, Luke S and Ashleigh's fake relationship and Becky's "hilarious" attempts to create her own "best bits" in the Diary Room.
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:14
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It's true we prefer the underdog - but I think it's the type of game. If winning involves lying, cheating & betraying - you're not going to be loved.
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:15
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I don't have a problem with people wanting to win, but it does annoy me when they start putting on an act that they think the public will like ie Funtime Conor's contrived antics and pranks, Luke S and Ashleigh's fake relationship and Becky's "hilarious" attempts to create her own "best bits" in the Diary Room.
I completely agree.. It's horrific.
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:16
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Seems to be something in the British pschye that means it makes a bad h/m because they want to win. Hell, if I went in there ( which I would never do cos I would thrown out in the first week -I could not keep my mouth shut long enough not to be nominated/ or calling someone out i.e Conor over his behaviour re Deana). But if I was ever stupid enough to apply - I would want to win. So why are people syaing that wanting to win is a bad thing. Is it the methods they use to get to the prize? Or do we just like losers/underdogs.
Perhaps it's a backlash because Conor, Caroline, Luke S, Ashleigh and Becky have been cheating? My question is Is cheating to win a game show something to be admired?
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:16
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No but I don't think walking over someone to get there is the way to go.

Whatever people say, they enter the BB house in order to win the prize money and to generate more through a resulting career.

Many contestants, when you start digging a little deeper, often have a past that includes being an extra (Becky) or working in TV or film (Lydia) or having some link.
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:17
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Seems to be something in the British pschye that means it makes a bad h/m because they want to win. Hell, if I went in there ( which I would never do cos I would thrown out in the first week -I could not keep my mouth shut long enough not to be nominated/ or calling someone out i.e Conor over his behaviour re Deana). But if I was ever stupid enough to apply - I would want to win. So why are people syaing that wanting to win is a bad thing. Is it the methods they use to get to the prize? Or do we just like losers/underdogs.
nothing wrong with "playing the game" and wanting to win however if the desire to win gets over a certain mark that you start to delude yourself and become aggressive/intimidating...is a real cause for concern i.e conor.
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:20
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Seems to be something in the British pschye that means it makes a bad h/m because they want to win. Hell, if I went in there ( which I would never do cos I would thrown out in the first week -I could not keep my mouth shut long enough not to be nominated/ or calling someone out i.e Conor over his behaviour re Deana). But if I was ever stupid enough to apply - I would want to win. So why are people syaing that wanting to win is a bad thing. Is it the methods they use to get to the prize? Or do we just like losers/underdogs.
They all went in to have good time and maybe get some fame. The idea is to show yourself in a good light OR be prominent and get to the final. Once in the final its the luck of draw if you win.
I cant be bothered with people telling me they don't like a HM because
They are playing a game - they all are
They are bitching - everyone talks about the others behind their backs
They are being fake - they are all trying to present themselves as best they can
They are desperate to win - who doesn't want to win

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Old 17-07-2012, 01:21
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Nothing wrong with wanting to win. But how you choose to play the game is what the audience will judge you on.

Trying to bully, intimidate and even cheat your way to victory might wash in other countries, but it's not something that tends to sell well over here.
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:22
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I don't have a problem with people wanting to win, but it does annoy me when they start putting on an act that they think the public will like ie Funtime Conor's contrived antics and pranks, Luke S and Ashleigh's fake relationship and Becky's "hilarious" attempts to create her own "best bits" in the Diary Room.
So Lauren Deanna, Luke A, Adam, Scott and Sara dont ever do anything like that?
What never?

Of course they do. They all do.
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:24
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No just depends on how you go about it
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:24
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Nothing wrong with wanting to win. But how you choose to play the game is what the audience will judge you on.

Trying to bully, intimidate and even cheat your way to victory might wash in other countries, but it's not something that tends to sell well over here.
Totally agree.
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:42
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Seems to be something in the British pschye that means it makes a bad h/m because they want to win. Hell, if I went in there ( which I would never do cos I would thrown out in the first week -I could not keep my mouth shut long enough not to be nominated/ or calling someone out i.e Conor over his behaviour re Deana). But if I was ever stupid enough to apply - I would want to win. So why are people syaing that wanting to win is a bad thing. Is it the methods they use to get to the prize? Or do we just like losers/underdogs.
I've always questioned the exact same thing about the British psyche. Sociologically speaking, I think it boils down to old 3H Saxon values. Which are hard work, honesty and humility.

The British people have been socialised either consciously or subconsciously through out the ages with those 3H values in mind. Hence, the reason why people can not bring themselves to terms to see someone else profit without exhibiting those values.

Just a theory.

By they way, BBUS is back and the game playing in the first 2 episodes makes BBUK looks like a summer camp.
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:45
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So Lauren Deanna, Luke A, Adam, Scott and Sara dont ever do anything like that?
What never?

Of course they do. They all do.
You mean the ones that constantly get accused of being boring and never doing anything?
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Old 17-07-2012, 02:00
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Everyone that goes in the house would like to win. But when you go round being sly and two-faced and being someone you're not just to try and get popularity and further into the show, that's when it's wrong.
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Old 17-07-2012, 02:04
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I would say not everybody who goes into BB wants to win some want the fame and would sooner lose and have more post BB fame then win have have none
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Old 17-07-2012, 02:23
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I would say not everybody who goes into BB wants to win some want the fame and would sooner lose and have more post BB fame then win have have none
When I said that everyone that goes in would like to win, I meant that nobody would be unhappy if they were crowned the winner.
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Old 17-07-2012, 19:06
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You said:
I don't have a problem with people wanting to win, but it does annoy me when they start putting on an act that they think the public will like ie Funtime Conor's contrived antics and pranks, Luke S and Ashleigh's fake relationship and Becky's "hilarious" attempts to create her own "best bits" in the Diary Room.
I asked;
So Lauren Deanna, Luke A, Adam, Scott and Sara dont ever do anything like that?
What never?

Of course they do. They all do.
You replied:
You mean the ones that constantly get accused of being boring and never doing anything?
That's not answer is it? It's an attempt at distraction, an irrelevant point.

Having made your bold statement why wouldn't you be prepared to answer a simple challenge to it?
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Old 17-07-2012, 19:09
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They all want to win. You can sense the desperation in Conor, Adam, LukeA, Lauren & Becky especially.
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Old 17-07-2012, 19:09
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I would say not everybody who goes into BB wants to win some want the fame and would sooner lose and have more post BB fame then win have have none
I think they would all like to win, they ,may not expect to win. Ashleigh for example, I believe has no expectations of winning.

BUT I cant think of anyone who does not want to win. They behave differently, have different tactics and barriers they will or wont cross.

Can you think of anyone who you could say did not want to win.
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Old 17-07-2012, 19:14
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Big brother is ultimately a popularity contest. They nominate who they dont like, we vote for who we do like. I see it as a social experiment that is supposed to reflect real life in some ways, so we judge people how we would if they acted that way in real life. People audition every year because everyone deep down wants to be accepted and loved. Theoretically that's also why they should want to win. I agree with the point made about "Nothing wrong with wanting to win. But how you choose to play the game is what the audience will judge you on." But since it's a popularity contest, we expect the housemates to want to win solely based on their true personality, not through manipulation and tactics.

Also in general, us British don't like winning, showing off or being competitive. It's just in our nature.

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