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The Barton clan seem to have had a heap of retcons thrown at them recently, all of them very bad. One that annoys me though, which i might just be remembering wrongly but wasn't it Moira's mother who was supposedly quite well off and was off cruising around marrying everyone in sight, yet recently Moira called John's mother for help when the farm needed money. A mother who didn't attend her sons funeral either. I might be wrong about this on as since the only two Bartons i actually liked (John and Holly) left my attention span to this family has dwindled.
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A retcon about the Bartons which you haven't mentioned is Moira's cheating. When the Bartons were introduced, they were this very tight-knit, very close family and John and Moira were very happy together with a very solid marriage and neither of them had ever cheated on each other. In fact, neither of them would ever cheat on each other. But they then had Moira cheat on him by sleeping with Cain; something which she would never have done. And also, over the past few months or so, we found out that she also cheated on him before Adam was born. Not only again was this something that the Moira we first saw would never have done, but we had been told that Cain was the first time that Moira had cheated, when now it wasn't, and also that Adam, as well as Holly and Hannah, were all John's biological children. They've totally changed what the Bartons were once were and they haven't felt like a close, tight-knit family for some time now.
John and Moira were childhood sweethearts, never even been with anybody else I don't think. They were going through a rocky patch and John kissed Eve (Suzanne Shaw). Moira could not believe he could do such a thing and treated him with such contempt for ages until he convinced her it was a mistake and it was her he loved. They then had rockier times and she slept with Cain. John and Moira then patched things up then he died and obviously got back with Cain. (Which imo was a stretch, even Adam gets on with Cain now )Then John's estranged, long-lost, never mentioned before brother James appears revealing that he and Moira had a fling resulting in Adam. It just doesn't fit at all
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It has been mentioned but Neighbours did a real botch-up with the Ramsay/Robinsons.
They really must have never seen early episodes. NO WAY would St. Anne Robinson have a love-child with Max Ramsay. Max was a decent bloke too, he wouldn't have gone with his best mate's wife. Jim and his one night stand in Vietnam resulting in Glen and Anne's rape by Jim's old boss Roger Bannen meaning Julie wasn't his child were both stretches but the Anne/Max lovechild who was adopted at birth but still had the surname Ramsay was crackers as well coming to Ramsay Street to which she had no connection
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After watching quite a bit of early Neighbours recently, I noticed a little retcon in the Robinson backstory
![]() In one of the very early episodes Scott starts seeing his first girlfriend and her parents are against the relationship. Helen says she's the wrong person to ask for advice because she stopped Jim and Anne from marrying when they wanted, making them wait a few years. Fast forward a few years, Scott's now with Charlene and about to marry. Jim thinks they are too young and voices his disapproval until Helen reminds him she didn't stand in the way when he married Anne at the same age and gave them her blessing ![]() Video evidence ![]() http://youtu.be/EHpLv5vCvu4?t=13m18s http://youtu.be/7kou3Jtx6L8?t=2m15s |
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After watching quite a bit of early Neighbours recently, I noticed a little retcon in the Robinson backstory
![]() In one of the very early episodes Scott starts seeing his first girlfriend and her parents are against the relationship. Helen says she's the wrong person to ask for advice because she stopped Jim and Anne from marrying when they wanted, making them wait a few years. Fast forward a few years, Scott's now with Charlene and about to marry. Jim thinks they are too young and voices his disapproval until Helen reminds him she didn't stand in the way when he married Anne at the same age and gave them her blessing ![]() Video evidence ![]() http://youtu.be/EHpLv5vCvu4?t=13m18s http://youtu.be/7kou3Jtx6L8?t=2m15s
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In Neighbours Lauren left in March 1994 and was supposedly pregnant with Paige (as revealed 20 years later) however she wasn't visibly pregnant so could only have been in the very early stages of her pregnancy. However Mason celebrated his 18th birthday in February 2013 meaning he was born in February 1995. So that would mean Lauren gave birth to Paige, got together with Matt and gave birth to Mason all within 11 months which is impossible. Also at the time Lauren left in March 1994 she was supposedly pregnant with Brad's baby but she hadn't seen Brad for ages he'd left the previous December after marrying Beth and him and Lauren hadn't been together for months prior to him leaving anyway. So had she been pregnant with his baby she would almost be ready to drop by the time of her exit yet was often seen onscreen in a bikini with a flat stomach right up until her exit. The whole storyline just does not fit with the timeline at the time.
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In Neighbours Lauren left in March 1994 and was supposedly pregnant with Paige (as revealed 20 years later) however she wasn't visibly pregnant so could only have been in the very early stages of her pregnancy. However Mason celebrated his 18th birthday in February 2013 meaning he was born in February 1995. So that would mean Lauren gave birth to Paige, got together with Matt and gave birth to Mason all within 11 months which is impossible. Also at the time Lauren left in March 1994 she was supposedly pregnant with Brad's baby but she hadn't seen Brad for ages he'd left the previous December after marrying Beth and him and Lauren hadn't been together for months prior to him leaving anyway. So had she been pregnant with his baby she would almost be ready to drop by the time of her exit yet was often seen onscreen in a bikini with a flat stomach right up until her exit. The whole storyline just does not fit with the timeline at the time.
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Ian Beale had his 21st birthday 2 years after his 18th
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When Neighbours first started in 1985, Scott Robinson (Darius Perkins) was best friends and classmates with neighbour Danny Ramsay (David Clencie).
When Neighbours moved from Channel 7 to 10 in 1986, Scott was recast with Jason Donovan. Danny was now working at the bank with Des Clarke, and Scott all of a sudden became much younger than Danny and still at school with his friend Mike (Guy Pearce) |
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Also wasn't Lucy Robinson made two years older at some point?
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Dodger and Sienna's age in Hollyoaks was changed. When Dodger was searching for his father, his birth certificate stated he (and therefore Sienna) was born in 1990, being 24.
Then when they decided for Sienna to have a 14 year old daughter when she was 14, they got aged up to 28. Quote:
Dodger and Sienna's age in Hollyoaks was changed. When Dodger was searching for his father, his birth certificate stated he (and therefore Sienna) was born in 1990, being 24.
Then when they decided for Sienna to have a 14 year old daughter when she was 14, they got aged up to 28. Darren being Sandy's son was the worst one. At least we hadn't been told the identity of Nico's father. |
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In Neighbours Lauren left in March 1994 and was supposedly pregnant with Paige (as revealed 20 years later) however she wasn't visibly pregnant so could only have been in the very early stages of her pregnancy. However Mason celebrated his 18th birthday in February 2013 meaning he was born in February 1995. So that would mean Lauren gave birth to Paige, got together with Matt and gave birth to Mason all within 11 months which is impossible. Also at the time Lauren left in March 1994 she was supposedly pregnant with Brad's baby but she hadn't seen Brad for ages he'd left the previous December after marrying Beth and him and Lauren hadn't been together for months prior to him leaving anyway. So had she been pregnant with his baby she would almost be ready to drop by the time of her exit yet was often seen onscreen in a bikini with a flat stomach right up until her exit. The whole storyline just does not fit with the timeline at the time.
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In Emmerdale, in the early days of the King family, there was mention of a long-lost sister (Georgina?), twin-sister of Max who had fallen out with Tom years previous.
Also in Emmerdale I'm sure when Declan first appeared his estranged wife Ella and "children" were living in Singapore. When they arrived in the dales a few months later, it was just Ella and daughter Mia. Also in Hollyoaks I'm sure Becca referred to herself as an only child until sister Nancy popped up
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The Aaron Abuse story doesn't match up with some events does it? At Emmerdale Wikia, it says that in one episode Chas overheard Aaron desperate to get back to his Dad's house begging him to come home, but If his Dad was abusing him why he be so desperate for him to come home? Have they explained it and I missed it?
http://emmerdale.wikia.com/wiki/Gordon_Livesy Also It says at corriepedia that Michelle's biological son Alex has been retconned out of the show because a few years ago Michelle referenced giving birth to and raising Ryan. http://coronationstreet.wikia.com/wiki/Michelle_Connor |
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Also, not really a retcon, but what is the age difference supposed to be between Emma and Pete in Emmerdale? Because Pete looks easily 35/36, and Emma looks barely 40.
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The Aaron Abuse story doesn't match up with some events does it? At Emmerdale Wikia, it says that in one episode Chas overheard Aaron desperate to get back to his Dad's house begging him to come home, but If his Dad was abusing him why he be so desperate for him to come home? Have they explained it and I missed it?
http://emmerdale.wikia.com/wiki/Gordon_Livesy Also It says at corriepedia that Michelle's biological son Alex has been retconned out of the show because a few years ago Michelle referenced giving birth to and raising Ryan. http://coronationstreet.wikia.com/wiki/Michelle_Connor Yes they explained it. It's been brought up a few times by various characters notably Chas and Cain, who have mentioned how close Aaron was to his dad and that he always wanted to go home to him (and it's behaviour not at all uncommon in child abuse victims, in fact sticking by and loyalty to an abuser is common in all abuse victims not just child ones, how many women stuck in violent relationships defend and stick by their abuser? it's all about the mind games that are played) Chas even asked Aaron about it directly Chas: He said something that got me thinking, how you always worshipped your dad. Aaron: He thinks I'm making it up? Chas: No, of course he doesn't but that is how it was, everytime you came here you couldn't wait to go home. Why didn't you tell me. Aaron: I don't know. I guess I just hated you for not knowing and staying away...and he always said he was sorry, that it wouldn't happen again and he was my dad, I loved him. It was also brought up by Gordon's defence during the court case. They actually did a pretty good job of making the storyline work with what we saw on screen and most questions people had were addressed. But there is a big retcon in the storyline. In 2006 Aaron came to stay with Chas for a week (the first she had seen him in a while) Sandra and Gordon were invited to The Woolpack to have drinks with the Dingles, were Sandra announced that she was pregnant. That would mean Aaron's sister would only be 9 going on 10 today and a toddler when Aaron left their home in 2008. She then turns up in 2016 as a teenager. We never actually saw her, just the pregnancy announcement and references to "the baby" so they just about get away with it I think. |
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Yes they explained it. It's been brought up a few times by various characters notably Chas and Cain, who have mentioned how close Aaron was to his dad and that he always wanted to go home to him (and it's behaviour not at all uncommon in child abuse victims, in fact sticking by and loyalty to an abuser is common in all abuse victims not just child ones, how many women stuck in violent relationships defend and stick by their abuser? it's all about the mind games that are played) Chas even asked Aaron about it directly
Chas: He said something that got me thinking, how you always worshipped your dad. Aaron: He thinks I'm making it up? Chas: No, of course he doesn't but that is how it was, everytime you came here you couldn't wait to go home. Why didn't you tell me. Aaron: I don't know. I guess I just hated you for not knowing and staying away...and he always said he was sorry, that it wouldn't happen again and he was my dad, I loved him. It was also brought up by Gordon's defence during the court case. They actually did a pretty good job of making the storyline work with what we saw on screen and most questions people had were addressed. But there is a big retcon in the storyline. In 2006 Aaron came to stay with Chas for a week (the first she had seen him in a while) Sandra and Gordon were invited to The Woolpack to have drinks with the Dingles, were Sandra announced that she was pregnant. That would mean Aaron's sister would only be 9 going on 10 today and a toddler when Aaron left their home in 2008. She then turns up in 2016 as a teenager. We never actually saw her, just the pregnancy announcement and references to "the baby" so they just about get away with it I think. |
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The most recent EastEnders one was Ronnie's revelation that Archie had raped her as a child. I mean, if you look back at episodes you could kind of tag on a ''rape'' backstory there and perhaps find it believable - but I struggle to believe the actors were aware of this at the time.
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There's been some major retcons there. Firstly, that Dodger isn't Dirk's son and that he is a twin. Then their ages (I believe that was done after baby 'Sophie' was revealed so they could have Sienna mistaking Peri for Sophie) Then that Dodger is the father of Sienna's baby and Patrick had realised but kept the secret and pretended that Dodger was dead. And that Dirk was around at that time.
Darren being Sandy's son was the worst one. At least we hadn't been told the identity of Nico's father. |
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All terrible retcons. I don't watch HO anymore, but haven't they retconned Cindy too with a secret husband and child?
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Den Watts and Eric Mitchell being friends when he had no idea who the Mitchells were back in 2003/2004.
Also wouldnt Sharon have known them when they were children?? ![]()
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Holly in Hollyoaks was about ten when she left and few years later she came back she was starting Sixth form
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Has Dennis Jnr/Denny's age been retconned? Since the recast, he seems to be about Bobby's age but he was born in 2006 so should only be approaching 10.
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Holly in Hollyoaks was about ten when she left and few years later she came back she was starting Sixth form
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Terry Raymond from Eastenders. When he first showed up he was an abusive drunk who terrified Tiffany and Simon. By the time he left, he seemed to be the long suffering nice bloke who would do anything for anyone. The same could apply to Billy Mitchell. Must be that lovely Walford air. It's such a nice place to live after all....
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John and Moira were childhood sweethearts, never even been with anybody else I don't think.

