[footygirl]

Originally Posted by LIZALYNN

I can see Nathan in the role more than any of the others but also David would suit the part. The Jesus role is a bit shouty in the temple scene and Gethsemane.
Rory would make a good Pilate because he sings crystal clear lyrics.
The only one I just can't see in the role of Jesus is Roger good a singer as he is. He wouldn't come across as a "sad little man."

Jesus was not a "sad little man"- he was a person of warmth, self doubt- bit different to sad!!!

David doesn't suit the part- he is too young - and needs to be some charisma about Jesus - I don't get that with David. I don't think ALW wants Nathan. Rory acting skills are questionable. That leaves Roger, as Ben I think is too young for the part

[SnoopMK]

I don't understand your saying that anyone of the ones left is too young for the role. Nathan is the youngest at 23. David is late 20s and Ben is 31. I think Rory is 24 or around that. Roger is 41 and the oldest, but as Jesus by most accounts was supposed to be early 30s I think the only ones you could possibly accuse of being "too young" are Nathan and Rory, but I don't think either of them look as young as they are.

My guess right now is that Nathan will win. He's not my favorite, but he seems to have the public support. I would like David or Roger to win, but Rory and Ben would be OK as well. I honestly don't think any of them ideally suits the role, but as I think David and Roger are the best all-around performers, they are who I am supporting the most.

[cazzz]

I'm watching the film JCS on ITV3 at the moment, I havent seen it for years, Anyone else watching and changing their mind about who they think should play the part.

I'm not a big fan of Nathan but having jogged my memory with the film, the music is suited to him more than it is for Roger and a few others

[Charlie_Charles]

Hi Everyone,

My favourites now have had to change what with the recent eliminations, Jeff originally being my first favourite
For me it is now Roger and as runner-up David.

Roger has stage presence, a great voice, he can move and act and best of of all he has dignity. His only down side is his fitness but hey I trained for a 5km run in four weeks so that is not an issue, anyway it seems that Nathan is a bit chubby and puffy too and that is acceptable so I have great hopes for Roger

David I like a lot too. He has a great voice, he can act and although I have yet to see him really move I am hoping he can

Keeping an open mind, age and colour for me is not a factor, I am only going on the talent that I see when I watch the contestants

[yorkgirl]

Hi Guys, just caught up with friday's show after a weekend off. H'mmm, this is the first ALW show where I've not had a favourite. To be honest, they all have strengths and weaknesses, but there is nobody who I instinctively feel, 'yeah, I'd like to see him in the part'. But, my gut feeling is that Ben is going to get this. At first it seemed like Rory was the chosen one, and I originally really liked him, but he's just too wooden. If I was a betting woman, I'd lay bets on Ben. Can't say I'm particularly bowled over by him, but I think the judges are.

[tally]

I've had a whale of a time watching the film. It's just so of my era when I was a wannabee hippy and the height of my wish list was to go on an overlander to Katmandu in a battered up bus.

It must be awfully dated to youngsters watching it now, but having seen it in the West End, then multiple times on film ( no videos in those days, it was on a loop at the cinema so I took myself off and watched it 2 or 3 times a go) it's part of my youth and brings back some great memories. I'd forgotten how radical it was at the time, but even the awful 70's gear just makes me glow with nostalgia.

It was the first time I'd heard "Could We Start Again Please" which is one of my favourites ( Oh gawd I sound like Jason the Smug) but wasn't in the original Lomdon production.

I was iffy about Ted Neeley as JC but after about 6 or 7 viewings I couldn't imagine anyone else doing it..........


..........until I saw Steve Balsamo. (I know I bring him up a lot, but he really was in a league of his own)

[diamond1]

Originally Posted by tally

..........until I saw Steve Balsamo. (I know I bring him up a lot, but he really was in a league of his own)

this ^

[guenevere]

Why has ALW taken so strongly against Nathan? Or why does he appear to have? Everyone seems to say he doesn't like him - but why on earth? What has Nathan does that's so bad?

• Nathan has a marvellous charismatic persona and a fabulous appearance. I think he is capable of producing the acting goods.
• Roger either had throat trouble the other night or "choked" during the sing-off. Either way, he undoubtedly sang worst in the sing-off. I think he would make a great Beast in "Beauty and the Beast," or Jud in "Oklahoma," but don't see him as Jesus.
• Dave to me doesn't have the gravitas for a leading role such as this.
• Ben is quite good and is probably the judges' reserve favourite. I like him too.
• Rory - can sing, but I think lacks the dramatic presernce.

Surely Nathan must win, and PinkPetunia, I may take up your tickets - unless my boredom of the whole thing overrides. I've never visited Dublin!

[Button62]

Hands off ! I have first dibs on PP's tickets !

Nathan is singing Lady Gaga tonight ..... should be interesting !

Gary Barlow is singing with all the guys also .... it is just like X Factor.

[LIZALYNN]

Originally Posted by footygirl

Jesus was not a "sad little man"- he was a person of warmth, self doubt- bit different to sad!!!

David doesn't suit the part- he is too young - and needs to be some charisma about Jesus - I don't get that with David. I don't think ALW wants Nathan. Rory acting skills are questionable. That leaves Roger, as Ben I think is too young for the part

I agree of course footygirl. But I was refering to the lyrics sung by Pilate in the show.

[LIZALYNN]

Originally Posted by tally

I've had a whale of a time watching the film. It's just so of my era when I was a wannabee hippy and the height of my wish list was to go on an overlander to Katmandu in a battered up bus.

It must be awfully dated to youngsters watching it now, but having seen it in the West End, then multiple times on film ( no videos in those days, it was on a loop at the cinema so I took myself off and watched it 2 or 3 times a go) it's part of my youth and brings back some great memories. I'd forgotten how radical it was at the time, but even the awful 70's gear just makes me glow with nostalgia.

It was the first time I'd heard "Could We Start Again Please" which is one of my favourites ( Oh gawd I sound like Jason the Smug) but wasn't in the original Lomdon production.

I was iffy about Ted Neeley as JC but after about 6 or 7 viewings I couldn't imagine anyone else doing it..........


..........until I saw Steve Balsamo. (I know I bring him up a lot, but he really was in a league of his own)

Totally agree. The film is an absolute classic tanks and all. I had a purple vest and wore flares in the seventies.
The late Carl Anderson was superb as Judas and Ted Neeley was also magnificent.
I had both album's, the show and the film and Could We Start Again Please was only ever on the film version. Shame because I love that number.
Steve Belsamo was brilliant as Jesus (especially Gethsemane) in later years of the live show. This is why I am biased to think only Nathan can deliver.
Andrew Lloyd Webber needs to remind contestants that it is a rock opera.
I would cast the boys as these:
Nathan - Jesus
Rory - Pilate
Roger - Ciaphas
David - Annas
Ben - Herod

[Ignazio]

David is my first choice - but I'd also be happy with Ben. In fact the only contestant left that I'm not keen on is Nathan.

[Charlie_Charles]

Originally Posted by LIZALYNN

Totally agree. The film is an absolute classic tanks and all. I had a purple vest and wore flares in the seventies.
The late Carl Anderson was superb as Judas and Ted Neeley was also magnificent.
I had both album's, the show and the film and Could We Start Again Please was only ever on the film version. Shame because I love that number.
Steve Belsamo was brilliant as Jesus (especially Gethsemane) in later years of the live show. This is why I am biased to think only Nathan can deliver.
Andrew Lloyd Webber needs to remind contestants that it is a rock opera.
I would cast the boys as these:
Nathan - Jesus
Rory - Pilate
Roger - Ciaphas
David - Annas
Ben - Herod

Wow!

Is anyone else on this forum amused at the arrogance of the Nathan supporters casting the other contestants in roles that have already been taken?

If he wins, I am not sure I would want to be in a theatre surrounded by so much 'fanatism' probably be akin to that of a Bieber concert.

I am happy to have;

Roger, Rory, David or Ben - as Jesus
Nathan - as anyone else

Okay let the flaming begin, be nice to have something to warm me up on these cool rainy days.

[Charlie_Charles]

Originally Posted by Ignazio

David is my first choice - but I'd also be happy with Ben. In fact the only contestant left that I'm not keen on is Nathan.

True, I am beginning to feel the same way too.
Roger and David are my favourites closely followed by Ben

So any of those three is good for me but at the same time I would not be disappointed with Rory at all.

[DiamondDoll]

Originally Posted by Charlie_Charles

Wow!

Is anyone else on this forum amused at the arrogance of the Nathan supporters casting the other contestants in roles that have already been taken?

If he wins, I am not sure I would want to be in a theatre surrounded by so much 'fanatism' probably be akin to that of a Bieber concert.

I am happy to have;

Roger, Rory, David or Ben - as Jesus
Nathan - as anyone else

Okay let the flaming begin, be nice to have something to warm me up on these cool rainy days.

Worry not because forum favourites never ever win in these things.

[Charlie_Charles]

Originally Posted by DiamondDoll

Worry not because forum favourites never ever win in these things.

Phew!

That is very good to know
Lol!

[DiamondDoll]

Originally Posted by Charlie_Charles

Phew!

That is very good to know
Lol!

Simon Cowell once tore a strip off a contestant in Pop Idol saying that he had too much belief in what he was reading on the net.

[nmj216]

Originally Posted by Ignazio

David is my first choice - but I'd also be happy with Ben. In fact the only contestant left that I'm not keen on is Nathan.

I like David too....don't understand all the negativity on here

[johartuk]

Originally Posted by Charlie_Charles

Wow!

Is anyone else on this forum amused at the arrogance of the Nathan supporters casting the other contestants in roles that have already been taken?

If he wins, I am not sure I would want to be in a theatre surrounded by so much 'fanatism' probably be akin to that of a Bieber concert.

I am happy to have;

Roger, Rory, David or Ben - as Jesus
Nathan - as anyone else

Okay let the flaming begin, be nice to have something to warm me up on these cool rainy days.

I didn't see that post as arrogant (and, before you say it, I'm not a Nathan fan). What I find odd is that as soon as someone says "I think Contestant X would make a good Pilate/Caiaphas/whoever", they're slagged off for it. As if saying that someone would be good in one of the other JCS roles is akin to insulting that contestant. We all have different opinions on which of the contestants should get the role of Jesus, and as long as our comments don't become personal attacks on contestants or their supporters, then that's fine.

I honestly don't have a favourite as yet. To be honest, none of the remaining contestants strike me as having the whole package.

DAVID - He seems to overact each song, which I find distracting. He acts by numbers, lacking subtlety and naturalness. He needs to dial it back and be more instinctive. He also needs to concentrate on his vocals, which have been under par for the last couple of performances.

BEN - Has that stillness about him which Jesus needs to have, and seems to have the acting and singing chops. However, he needs to do an uptempo number to show us that side of him, which we haven't seen yet.

NATHAN - Probably the best singer, with great stage presence, but doesn't seem to have the acting chops needed for the role. We need to see some acting from him.

ROGER - Needs to be given a song in his natural vocal range instead of being made to sing outside it, which must be putting a lot of strain on his voice. As with Nathan, we also need to see some acting from him.

RORY - Good voice, but again, needs to show that he can act.

[Button62]

Originally Posted by johartuk

I didn't see that post as arrogant (and, before you say it, I'm not a Nathan fan). What I find odd is that as soon as someone says "I think Contestant X would make a good Pilate/Caiaphas/whoever", they're slagged off for it. As if saying that someone would be good in one of the other JCS roles is akin to insulting that contestant. We all have different opinions on which of the contestants should get the role of Jesus, and as long as our comments don't become personal attacks on contestants or their supporters, then that's fine.

I honestly don't have a favourite as yet. To be honest, none of the remaining contestants strike me as having the whole package.

DAVID - He seems to overact each song, which I find distracting. He acts by numbers, lacking subtlety and naturalness. He needs to dial it back and be more instinctive. He also needs to concentrate on his vocals, which have been under par for the last couple of performances.

BEN - Has that stillness about him which Jesus needs to have, and seems to have the acting and singing chops. However, he needs to do an uptempo number to show us that side of him, which we haven't seen yet.

NATHAN - Probably the best singer, with great stage presence, but doesn't seem to have the acting chops needed for the role. We need to see some acting from him.

ROGER - Needs to be given a song in his natural vocal range instead of being made to sing outside it, which must be putting a lot of strain on his voice. As with Nathan, we also need to see some acting from him.

RORY - Good voice, but again, needs to show that he can act.

I agreee 100% with this measured well thought out post.

Although I am rooting for Nathan as he has been my favourite from the auditions I do accept that he hasn't shown us much in the way of acting .... he can definitely do it, as I think he sang the Mr Big song with feeling .... which was strangely overlooked by the judges.

David is too hammy and needs to tone it down several nothches. Less is more David and a bit of subtlety wouldn't go amiss. His " acting " is like being hit in the face with a hammer.

Ben is good, there's no denying it, but he just doesn't do it for me.

Roger is good, no denying it, but he doesn't have the right vocal range for this role and is clearly rather unfit.

Rory is a fabulous singer. If you close your eyes, every time he sings he sounds like the original artist. If he doesn't win he will no doubt get a recording contract.

These are my opinions, no more no less. Some people would do well to remember we all have an opinion and no one on this thread is in the business of " flaming " anyone

[Charlie_Charles]

Originally Posted by Button62

I agreee 100% with this measured well thought out post.

Although I am rooting for Nathan as he has been my favourite from the auditions I do accept that he hasn't shown us much in the way of acting .... he can definitely do it, as I think he sang the Mr Big song with feeling .... which was strangely overlooked by the judges.

David is too hammy and needs to tone it down several nothches. Less is more David and a bit of subtlety wouldn't go amiss. His " acting " is like being hit in the face with a hammer.

Ben is good, there's no denying it, but he just doesn't do it for me.

Roger is good, no denying it, but he doesn't have the right vocal range for this role and is clearly rather unfit.

Rory is a fabulous singer. If you close your eyes, every time he sings he sounds like the original artist. If he doesn't win he will no doubt get a recording contract.

These are my opinions, no more no less. Some people would do well to remember we all have an opinion and no one on this thread is in the business of " flaming " anyone

That is very good to know

[lady_xanax]

The test will be when/if they get a musical theatre number, which would give them a chance to act.

[PinkPetunia]

Originally Posted by Charlie_Charles

Wow!

Is anyone else on this forum amused at the arrogance of the Nathan supporters casting the other contestants in roles that have already been taken?

.

No , I saw nothing arrogant about it at all .If I would like my favourite as Jesus its stands to reason I might make a guess at casting the rest .

[lady_xanax]

Originally Posted by Button62

Rory is a fabulous singer. If you close your eyes, every time he sings he sounds like the original artist.

Is that really what you want from a singer though? Someone who sounds exactly the same as who they're covering?

[Button62]

Originally Posted by lady_xanax

Is that really what you want from a singer though? Someone who sounds exactly the same as who they're covering?

No, definitely not. I do think he will be successful and get recording contract though. He is definitely not right for this role. More of a better Joe McEldery or Shane Warne