[i4u]

Originally Posted by carl.waring

No. There really isn't

There's definately an air of grumpy miseries emminating from BBC News.

Ok, I stand corrected.

Re balance...people must recall the days of endless features leading up to last Monday and reporters predicting doom & gloom at Heathrow for arrivals to the Olympics.

When there was no hold ups, did the miseries at the BBC eat humble pie, did they heck. They reduced their coverage of Heathrow to a view fleeting seconds of atheletes arriving and a voice over. Thus playing down the good work of staff at Heathrow, not even a word of praise.

[steveh31]

Of course Sky News are not miffed are they only talking about the torch now it's reached London as the BBC filmed it, interviewing a restaurant manager whose business has trees in front of it's windows right opposite the stadium claiming he is losing business, focusing on the planned strike by the Border Agency and of course the G4S situation, but any excuse just to have a go at the BBC and head in the sand to the other news outlets.

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by steveh31

but any excuse just to have a go at the BBC and head in the sand to the other news outlets.

So much so that they are looking for any perceived bias or negativity, and are convincing themselves of negativity when there is none (and manipulate the facts accordingly).

[bluesdiamond]

Originally Posted by inothernews

I wonder what BBC London's Olympics Correspondant Adrian Warner will do when it's all over.

Spend the next 4 years reporting on the aftermath, as various bits get dimantled and sold on?

Funny thing is- I think I'm going to miss him!

Become his regions Glasgow 2014 Correspondent? 'Poor xxxxxx failed to xxxxx but is now looking ahead to failing again in Glasgow for Team England'

[i4u]

Originally Posted by steveh31

Of course Sky News are not miffed are they only talking about the torch now it's reached London as the BBC filmed it, interviewing a restaurant manager whose business has trees in front of it's windows right opposite the stadium claiming he is losing business, focusing on the planned strike by the Border Agency and of course the G4S situation, but any excuse just to have a go at the BBC and head in the sand to the other news outlets.

I watch the BBC not Sky, yes there are Olympic stories that warrant news coverage but to create a feature allowing some biddy to air her views unchallenged to 5m viewers is not right.

Many of the negative items on BBC local news warranted a short intro and about 30 seconds.

The BBC are the Host Broadcasters, but their news department seem to be going out of their way to pee on the parade.

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by i4u

I watch the BBC not Sky,

So you should appreciate it when other people tell you that Sky, as well as ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5, along with the national press, are also carrying the same stories (and that perhaps there are valid reasons why they are doing so).

So why single out the BBC and make out that it is they who have an agenda?

Not only do you have a skewed view of the news, you are seriously misinformed as well.

[i4u]

Originally Posted by mossy2103

So you should appreciate it when other people tell you that Sky, as well as ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5, along with the national press, are also carrying the same stories (and that perhaps there are valid reasons why they are doing so).

So why single out the BBC and make out that it is they who have an agenda?

Not only do you have a skewed view of the news, you are seriously misinformed as well.

Does Sky have a local news bulletin at 18:30 Mon - Fri on BBC 1...first I heard of it.

It's a wee bit difficult to draw attention to what I have not seen I trust you appreciate that.

The BBC were at it again today at lunch time leading off with 3 minutes about a twonk in Gravesend attempting to grab the Olympic torch, cue the replay of all the other attempts.

Did it really warrant being the lead item or 3 minutes?

They could have tucked the report in later before the item about the guy who carried the torch in 1948 and will again in 2012.

But no the BBC wanted to make a drama out of a molehill.

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by i4u

Does Sky have a local news bulletin at 18:30 Mon - Fri on BBC 1...first I heard of it.

I made a generic reply to your generic claim:

Originally Posted by i4u

I watch the BBC not Sky,

I trust that you appreciate that too, and that you will accept that all of the other broadcasters and press are carrying the same stories.

[lundavra]

Originally Posted by i4u

... The BBC were at it again today at lunch time leading off with 3 minutes about a twonk in Gravesend attempting to grab the Olympic torch, cue the replay of all the other attempts.

Did it really warrant being the lead item or 3 minutes?

They could have tucked the report in later before the item about the guy who carried the torch in 1948 and will again in 2012.

But no the BBC wanted to make a drama out of a molehill.

It's the first serious disruption in the a couple of months of the torch relay, seems quite reasonable to have it in a prominent position in the news especially as it seems to have been Muslim protester.

By the early evening news it was much lower down the running order.

Are we going to have moans about any Olympic related news item on the news now?

[i4u]

Originally Posted by lundavra

It's the first serious disruption in the a couple of months of the torch relay, seems quite reasonable to have it in a prominent position in the news especially as it seems to have been Muslim protester.

By the early evening news it was much lower down the running order.

Are we going to have moans about any Olympic related news item on the news now?

It's out of my hands, it depends on the stupidity of the news editors.

It should not have been the top story to begin with.

[Re-Minder]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Connors

I did notice yes. It does seem the BBC are looking for the negative stories (especially BBC London News)

I also watched a really heart-warming story on ITV news about the Somali Olympic team (both of them)

And they are reflecting the mood here, we have had a surcharge added to pay for this glorified nonsense and while the rest of the UK will be free of it once its over we are reminded every year from now on the real cost of the Olympics.

Tourists are avoiding the city, spending is down and i have to drive a fracking tube during the bloody nonsense, It has not brought the city any real benefits so far but the scumbags that terrorise the Stratford/Newham area have a nice shiny new Westfield to have running battles in, gullible games visitors to rob if they don't take sensible precautions and lots of shiny new soon to be abandoned building to vandalise and destroy.

The Olympics should have been cancelled when the proverbial credit crunch poo hit the fan in 2008.

[Re-Minder]

Originally Posted by i4u

I watch the BBC not Sky, yes there are Olympic stories that warrant news coverage but to create a feature allowing some biddy to air her views unchallenged to 5m viewers is not right.

Many of the negative items on BBC local news warranted a short intro and about 30 seconds.

The BBC are the Host Broadcasters, but their news department seem to be going out of their way to pee on the parade.

They are responsible for televising some events but they are not the host broadcaster.

Forgot to add that the peeps who have been lumbered with the missiles are peed off their homes/families could become caught in the crossfire if a mad mulah decided to target the missile sites,

[Re-Minder]

Originally Posted by i4u

Retaining the Olympics is seen as a positive for the BBC especially BBC Sport but I have the feeling BBC News don't see it that way....maybe the News department think the Olympics is getting some of their budget?

There's definately an air of grumpy old miseries emminating from BBC News.

Take one of the local stories about the Olympic lanes, the story was the suggestion by an MP to allow cyclists to use those lanes....fine interview the MP and a couple of VOX pops, 60 seconds.

No they turned it into an epic tale of woe, ending with a reporter (Adrian Warner?) saying the lanes are a major problem.

As for the Boxhill story, why the need to turn it into a feature?

I'm not advocating not reporting I'm questioning their news priorities in regard to the Olympics.

Having reported yesterday about gangs of pickpockets targetting the Olympics, BMXers being elbowed from the Openning Ceremony, road closures, the traffic chaos, the transport chaos etc, etc....having painted the event in the worse light possible and put people off attending....they then did an item about buying tickets for Olympic events.

I don't have a special interest in sport or the Olympics but BBC News seem to have a chip on their shoulder.

Mate come to London and see for yourself then, the lanes are going to bring the city to gridlock and sadly the reports of the Olympics being a pickpockets paradise is sadly true, thats why us sensible Londoners will avoid Stratford and other venue areas like the plague.

[Re-Minder]

Originally Posted by i4u

Surely the big story yesterday was the police officer being found not guilty of the killing of a person at the G20 demonstrations.

Instead the BBC local lead with 8 mins of negativity about the Olympics,with a reporter saying how security will be lacking and travelling to the Olympics will be disrupted.

Yet later in the same programme a team manager testing one of facilities described everything has fantastic including security.

But the opinion of a reporter on the outside was given greater creedence over the facts of the matter.

Yesterday they had a feature about the Duchess of Cambridge visting a photo exhibition, she was shown meeting Tanni Grey-Thompson. Tanni was heard making a speech saying the Olympics will provide a great platform for the Para Olympics.....yet the reporter felt compelled to end the report with the snide comment "but will have to see over the next two weeks if that is true,"

What a git, delibrately putting doubt in peoples minds.

What happened to reporting the news rather attempting to create news?

As for Ms Thompson the least said the better, the reporter is not however a git and neither did he install doubt in viewers minds,

[sjp]

Originally Posted by Re-Minder

Mate come to London and see for yourself then, the lanes are going to bring the city to gridlock and sadly the reports of the Olympics being a pickpockets paradise is sadly true, thats why us sensible Londoners will avoid Stratford and other venue areas like the plague.

not to mention the Tower Hill section where the single lane from the Embankment Upper/Lower Thames St becomes 2 through Tower Hill meaning that any traffic that would normally go straight over to East Smithfield now has to go round the Minories one way. this is going to cause mayhem.

[i4u]

Newswatch has just had Simon Waldman (head of news?) on being asked about BBC negativity.

Viewers provided a raft of petty negative items BBC News had shunted to the head of the news or had given unwarranted space to.

Simon's response was to ignore the issue that the BBC had got the empathise wrong, he chose to concentrate on the one item that was news worthy G4S situation.

Neat footwork Simon but on the main day Heathrow was coping with the influx of atheletes Simon chose to re-tweet the following....

Simon Waldman‏@simonmwaldman

RT @halo_straight; "Longest queues I have seen at Heathrow- and I am flying out!!!"

We get were you are coming from Simon.

[i4u]

Originally Posted by Re-Minder

And they are reflecting the mood here, we have had a surcharge added to pay for this glorified nonsense and while the rest of the UK will be free of it once its over we are reminded every year from now on the real cost of the Olympics.

With that comment you make my point for me, that those with a minority opinion can hijack the news agenda.

People in particular reporters should not let their prejudices ignore the facts.

This thread is about the BBC News coverage, if you wish to talk about the pros & cons of the Olympics may I suggest there is ample space on Digital Spy to start a thread on that matter.

[i4u]

Originally Posted by Re-Minder

As for Ms Thompson the least said the better, the reporter is not however a git and neither did he install doubt in viewers minds,

It was a snide final remark by the reporter, which raised doubts the Olympic & ParaOlympics would be successful.

The feature was about a photo exhibition why the heck did he think his comment was justified.

If people want predictions/speculation there's Russell Grant, it's not the job of a factual BBC news reporter.

I think over the weekend we will see a change in the style of reporting on the Olympics and it will be nore chirpy.

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by i4u

It's out of my hands, it depends on the stupidity of the news editors..

You mean that it depends upon your (skewed and subjective) interpretation of their editorial decisions.

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by i4u

Simon's response was to ignore the issue that the BBC had got the empathise wrong,

In your, and the complainant's opinion

he chose to concentrate on the one item that was news worthy G4S situation.

And, in summing up, he also said that BBC News has a duty to report the news. Which they have. Yes, it might not be the news that YOU want on a personal level, and on a level that coincides with YOUR priorities & outlook, but it is still news.

[mersey70]

Call me old fashioned but dosen't the BBC, ITV and Sky, as news operations, have to report on issues even if they are negative?

Anybody who has access to overseas channels will see that there appears to be concerns elsewhere. NBC, Fox and Euronews have certainly reported on the G4S debacle, and traffic issues.

We would look a bit like a police state if the Beeb and the rest didn't mention what everybody else is!

[Caxton]

This is not just about coverage of the build-up to the Olympics and not just the BBC either. The media appear to always look for negativity in just about every story they cover. Reporters are beside themselves in glee at anything negative, at times they just look so excited and delighted about it like a dog that has got the bone. It is almost as if they are only happy when they are reporting doom and gloom.

[i4u]

Originally Posted by mossy2103

In your, and the complainant's opinion

And, in summing up, he also said that BBC News has a duty to report the news. Which they have. Yes, it might not be the news that YOU want on a personal level, and on a level that coincides with YOUR priorities & outlook, but it is still news.

It's fact, Simon didn't address the main issue and chose to justify decisions based on one story.

You miss understand..I'm saying emphasis of their Olympic news coverage has been topsy turvy.....for example spending days if not weeks speculating there would be chaos at Heathrow, even going live last Monday morning.

Yet, when the chaos didn't happen the item quickly dropped down the news agenda and was reduced to pictures and a voice over.

Look at what Simon chose to re-tweet despite the evidence from his own reporters on the ground.

The false story about the dog indicates what's happening at the BBC, that the facts won't be allowed get in the way of a good story.

[i4u]

Originally Posted by Caxton

This is not just about coverage of the build-up to the Olympics and not just the BBC either. The media appear to always look for negativity in just about every story they cover. Reporters are beside themselves in glee at anything negative, at times they just look so excited and delighted about it like a dog that has got the bone. It is almost as if they are only happy when they are reporting doom and gloom.

On Newswatch there was a glimpse of a BBC reporter getting into a frenzy and getting into lather over tweets about a delayed coach..and I gather he was broadcasting live.

I think over the weekend they'll reflect on the way they've made themselves look fools over the past 7 days and change their approach.

Loved the interview with Boris Johnson on the six o'clock news when he pulled the rug from under Fiona Bruce over pessimistic stories before she could get a word in.

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by i4u

It's fact, Simon didn't address the main issue and chose to justify decisions based on one story.

You miss understand..I'm saying emphasis of their Olympic news coverage has been topsy turvy.....for example spending days if not weeks speculating there would be chaos at Heathrow, even going live last Monday morning.

Yet, when the chaos didn't happen the item quickly dropped down the news agenda and was reduced to pictures and a voice over.

So why would they put something at the top of the agenda if indeed it was "business as usual" (i.e. a non-story)?

Look at what Simon chose to re-tweet despite the evidence from his own reporters on the ground.

Yes, presumably what he saw, and presumably he was stating that (although in what context we are not told, long queues don't necessarily equate to "chaos", just long queues and waiting times). and look at what he states at the top of his account:

These views are mine, all mine. Not that you'd want them anyway....

so he is not tweeting on behalf of BBC News.

The false story about the dog indicates what's happening at the BBC, that the facts won't be allowed get in the way of a good story.

What dog story was that? I missed it.



For someone who seems to think that BBC News has got its priorities wrong, that it misreports and wilfully misrepresents, and that it is involved in some kind of immature rivalry with BBC Sport, you do seem to watch an awful lot of their coverage, rather than switching to Sky News, ITV News, Channel 4 news of Channel Five news. Odd, seeing as you don't seem to rate their coverage for its accuracy or impartiality,.