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New video on C5 BB site of Lauren and Adam talking, sounds like they have been discussing Tatics so they don't get picked off.
Lauren is reminding Adam to integrate more with the other group stick to Conor etc. Adam isn't sure he can do it.

Looks like the game is heating up and the outsiders are ready to fight to make sure they can get as many of them as possible to the final!

[Nocturnal Mum]

Conor's a good choice within the house as he's never nominated Adam or Luke A., but it would be a disaster as far as his perception by the public is concerned.

[qwertyell]

They don't really have much choice now, do they?

I think the "insiders" are itching to turn against Becky, though. Adam, Deana and whoever's left from Lauren and Luke A only need to shift a few votes away from them and Becky will be right in the mix.

[What name??]

So plan A with bells on it. Suck up to the insiders even more and hope that the rest of their team is picked off before them. Brilliant plan. It's worked really well so far for those that have tried it so far. The others will never think they are two-faced if they follow this strategy & the public love nothing more than a snidy coward...

[Majyck Trixx]

Adam said this weeks ago - 'Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer!'

They recognise who is RUNNING the show (and it aint the BB monkeys) and perhaps he needs to start heeding his own advice..... It is a game, others are playing it, so why shouldn't they!

[cah]

Originally Posted by qwertyell

They don't really have much choice now, do they?

I think the "insiders" are itching to turn against Becky, though. Adam, Deana and whoever's left from Lauren and Luke A only need to shift a few votes away from them and Becky will be right in the mix.

Agreed !!!

[FingersAndToes]

That seems to be the only choice now, and sounds like a good plan.

[townrain]

Being with LukeA has ostracized Adam.

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Originally Posted by Nocturnal Mum

Conor's a good choice within the house as he's never nominated Adam or Luke A., but it would be a disaster as far as his perception by the public is concerned.

That's the problem it might win the inside but loose the public.
It's a delicate path to travel.

From the point of view of Adam being the winner it might be best if Lauren stayed because I could see them and Deana still sticking together while being friendly but not 'in' with the insiders.
But if Luke stays I can see him wanting to be part of the insiders (for acceptance) putting Adam in an awkward position.

Originally Posted by qwertyell

They don't really have much choice now, do they?

I think the "insiders" are itching to turn against Becky, though. Adam, Deana and whoever's left from Lauren and Luke A only need to shift a few votes away from them and Becky will be right in the mix.

I agree I think it will be Becky up this week with whomever. None of them genuinely like her, she was useful to them last week with info and another number for their Noms tally but I get the impression they are fed up of her loudness.

[qwertyell]

It's probably too little, too late. As a "team" they've been f*cking useless. Even this week, against a massive block vote, they could've got one of the others up if they'd used their heads.

[Nocturnal Mum]

Originally Posted by What name??

So plan A with bells on it. Suck up to the insiders even more and hope that the rest of their team is picked off before them. Brilliant plan. It's worked really well so far for those that have tried it so far. The others will never think they are two-faced if they follow this strategy & the public love nothing more than a snidy coward.

Love that phrase! I'll see how many times I can use it at work this afternoon!

[qwertyell]

Originally Posted by Nocturnal Mum

Conor's a good choice within the house as he's never nominated Adam or Luke A., but it would be a disaster as far as his perception by the public is concerned.

Well, Adam and Lauren already get along with Conor just fine. He only nominated Lauren this week, for the first time, due to Becky's meddling.

They won't have to suck up to him, just stay on his right side.

[reddress]

Originally Posted by What name??

So plan A with bells on it. Suck up to the insiders even more and hope that the rest of their team is picked off before them. Brilliant plan. It's worked really well so far for those that have tried it so far. The others will never think they are two-faced if they follow this strategy & the public love nothing more than a snidy coward...

The insiders barely have a brain cell between them, they outsiders don't actually need to be buddy buddy about it just subtle tatics of being more friendly (but not hanging out) maybe slightly stirring the fact becky is very annoying that sort of thing.

I think the public will love the outsiders fighting back as long as they don't try and become best friends that's all.

There is nothing Cowardly about tatics.

[yellowlabbie]

Originally Posted by qwertyell

It's probably too little, too late. As a "team" they've been f*cking useless. Even this week, against a massive block vote, they could've got one of the others up if they'd used their heads.

As last we agree qwertyell.

[Nocturnal Mum]

Originally Posted by qwertyell

Well, Adam and Lauren already get along with Conor just fine. He only nominated Lauren this week, for the first time, due to Becky's meddling.

They won't have to suck up to him, just stay on his right side.

When Conor was up for eviction he actually said to Adam and Luke A "You're f***ed If I go!"

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Originally Posted by townrain

Being with LukeA has ostracized Adam.

Adam spent a fair bit of time with the HMs that now make up the outsiders in the first two weeks, he couldn't stand them as people. I think he preferred the company of those he liked even if they were a smaller more vulnerable group, it's what's made him popular.

[Goldie Mickens]

a bit late for gameplay.
Adam backed up Deana with the Ashley thing and Luke A and Lauren went for Becky..and Deanaa wasnt going to go for Caroline.

Originally Posted by townrain

Being with LukeA has ostracized Adam.

his loyalty to Luke A definitely harmed him a bit.

Adam's always been sound with everybody in the house until Caroline took a dislike to him and the Shievonne thing.
its obvious out of the three of them he gets on with everybody more and the two of them need him more than he needs them but the heavy smokers stick together.

[SIOPHIE_FIERCE]

Conor doesn't like Adam. I saw a few bblive tweets last week saying "Conor and Luke S are bitching about Adam" also when in the bathroom he said "Oh I can't believe that one person didn't get any", meaning Adam. He was already planning on setting him for next week. I don't know how Deana's nom talk will affect his plan

[reddress]

I can see the point its late in the game but I'm not sure if it's too late.
Just looking at the next two evictions and for arguments sake they are straight forward Noms and evictions.
If they can get Becky up in the mix this week, then she will get evicted no way could she win against an outsider. She is only voting outsiders at the moment so the outsiders would loose 2 Noms.
The week after that could easily be Scott, his main friend was Becky and he's a bit of a floater so an easy target.

[Cornchips]

Originally Posted by qwertyell

They don't really have much choice now, do they?

I think the "insiders" are itching to turn against Becky, though. Adam, Deana and whoever's left from Lauren and Luke A only need to shift a few votes away from them and Becky will be right in the mix.

yes I agree. Deana already has a couple of friends in the insiders, Caroline and Sara, Adam seems to get on fine with "the boys" so neither of these two are as isolated imho as Luke A is. Lauren has a problem in that people don't trust her and see her as two-faced so if she stays on Friday (which I think she will) then I fear she will have it the hardest to try and "make friends" with the insiders. Luke A will struggle as I think he is possibly the most isolated of the outsiders (some of it his own doing).

I agree that some of them are itching to turn on Becky - she is extremely loud and I would imagine its not that difficult to find reasons to nominate her. The shopping list maybe the issue this week especially if they are running out of food come nomination day. I think Sara could be persuaded (she seems to get on with most people and I would think she finds nominations quite hard), and I think maybe even Caroline if Becky continues to push between her and Conor.

[BMLisa]

It'll work fine if they still have meetings to discuss progress and slate the other team! Its the perfect time to try as Caroline is probabl desperate to nominate anyone the ask her to to ingratiate herself with the public now!

I think most people wil forgive them at this final stage trying to divert noms. They have completel failed at trying to block vote!

[Penny Crayon]

Originally Posted by townrain

Being with LukeA has ostracized Adam.

Adam has more class in his little finger that that other lot put together.

I don't think he'd have wanted to associate with them even if they had welcomed him into their group.

Why would he want to spend all his time with a bunch of bitching thickos?

[nagel84]

They've always (or at least for some time) been game playing and are some of the biggest game players in there.

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Here is the clip on YouTube http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vjE1_GoUpys

[What name??]

Originally Posted by reddress

There is nothing Cowardly about tatics.

No, but their plan is to be cowardly and hope it pays off.

I agree they need to mix more but they also need to talk about the perception of them being two faced and untrustworthy and do something about it. For example by not repeating all the conversations (really basic but they are still doing it), by not whinging so much, by not agreeing their teammates are shite and utrustworthy when in the presence of the outsididers... Because clearly the Insiders are thinking if they talk about their own lot like that then what are they saying about me. And they do have a point.

And most importantly they need to decide who they can realistically get up who is not in their team and not on their side and that is clearly Becky and Conor because both have non-outsiders who also aren't that keen on them. If they voted for those two they could be up, if they got just 1 other person to agree and they would definately be up. Instead the fools are going to try to placate Conor who will just despise them for it.