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Thanks to Natalie They Will Probably Scrap the Live Task Idea From Now on..
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Alrightmate
25-11-2004
Thanks Nat.

You've probably ensured that they never do the tasklive anymore now.

What a televisual disaster.

It was so embarassing to see Ant and Dec reduced to showing us an emergency set of clips of some trials that entertained us in the past.....and showed us examples of what a good trial could be like.
Actually it was a damn stupid idea to show video clips of their top three tasks. Because it only highlighted even further what an unmitigated disaster tonights task was.

And how embarassing was it to see Ant and Dec walk us through the trial demonstrating how good it could have been.

Thanks Nat.
There's a good chance they will scrap the idea of a live task now.
Yes, you showed us acting up, and sticking the kinfe into Sophie. Guilty conscience, and a deflection tactic. Blame Sophie for wanting to get TV exposure doing a trial, because your guilt at doing what you accues Sophie of was so f**king obvious.

We wanted to see an attempt at a trial,..not give Nat free air time to act up again and use the opportunity to smear otehr contestants.

What a waste of space.
Don't vote for Nat for anything again. Do what she deserves....Ignore her pleas for attention. Don't pay her any attention at all when it comes to any vote from now on.
T--J
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Thanks to Natalie they will probably scrap the live trial idea.”

Nat or the people who fell for the manipulation and voted for her?
Alrightmate
25-11-2004
Yep, T--J....A bit of both. I agree with you.

I tried to warn people a day or two ago.

But to be fair. I don't think it was people on here who are to blame. Most people on here know the score where Natalie is concerned.
Veri
25-11-2004
It serves them right for producing a show that virtually guaranteed that Natalie would get the live trial. It should have been obvious that she was not going to jump right into tanks, for reasons that have nothing to do with attention-seeking etc.

Indeed, her hehaviour was more natural than that of celebs who jump right into goo.

It's about time we had someone who behaved more normally.
T--J
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by Veri:
“It serves them right for producing a show that virtually guaranteed that Natalie would get the live trial. It should have been obvious that she was not going to jump right into tanks, for reasons that have nothing to do with attention-seeking etc.

Indeed, her hehaviour was more natural than that of celebs who jump right into goo.

It's about time we had someone who behaved more normally.”

... but did you find that entertaining?
moogester
25-11-2004
They should make Ant or Dec do the trial if the "celeb" won't when it's being shown live
Alrightmate
25-11-2004
Her behaviour was all about attention seeking.

She acted up for all it was worth,....but without actually doing the trial.

Don't know waht you're talking about...it was histrionics all the way.
CalmG
25-11-2004
Aww, I would've loved to have seen Nat up to her neck in fish guts.


At least she did 2, I guess.
baileybots
25-11-2004
how many more names could she say she was doing it for,... the kids,.. husband,..mother..and now kate thornton, ..if i was kate i would quickly disassociate myself from her
baileybots
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by Veri:
“It serves them right for producing a show that virtually guaranteed that Natalie would get the live trial. It should have been obvious that she was not going to jump right into tanks, for reasons that have nothing to do with attention-seeking etc.

Indeed, her hehaviour was more natural than that of celebs who jump right into goo.

It's about time we had someone who behaved more normally.”

i do like your rose tinted specs
moogester
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“how many more names could she say she was doing it for,... the kids,.. husband,..mother..and now kate thornton, ..if i was kate i would quickly disassociate myself from her ”

I liked the way when she was shouting her friends names, she gave Kate Thornton's full name, just in case we might have thought she had a friend called Kate who wasn't famous
Veri
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by T--J:
“... but did you find that entertaining? ”

Parts of it. I wish she'd been able to pull Dec in. That would have been worth seeing.

But most of I'm a celeb isn't very entertaining. (Have you tried watching the live show?)

I don't feel cheated or anything just because she didn't get into the fish guts.
Veri
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Her behaviour was all about attention seeking.”

According to you. You can't read her mind, so it's just your interpretation of her behaviour.
Last edited by Veri : 25-11-2004 at 23:38
moogester
25-11-2004
In a way it was worth it her only getting two stars to hear Brian moaning he's so hungry he has pains in his stomach - especially now there is one more mouth to feed I think tomorrow may bring ructions
T--J
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by Veri:
“... But most of I'm a celeb isn't very entertaining. (Have you tried watching the live show?).”

I'm really not trying to be rude but if that's the case, I don't really see why you're watching it. Especially if all you want to see is normal people - IAC is all about being over the top not normality.


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“... I don't feel cheated or anything just because she didn't get into the fish guts.”

I do and I have a feeling that ITV will be not too pleased at the way it worked out - although I agree with you that they manipulated it that way.
baileybots
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by Veri:
“According to you. You can't read her mind, so it's just your interpretation of her behaviour.”

[/quote]read her mind!, theres nowt there to read
swingaleg
25-11-2004
All they have to do is make sure the 'live task' is a five minute jobby, like Snooty in the cave or Jennie in the coffin.........


They could then get A & D asking 'how they are' a hundred times in during the 30 minute prog..........
JTW
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by Veri:
“According to you. You can't read her mind, so it's just your interpretation of her behaviour.”

Veri, your losing the battle here. Natalie brought it on herself tonight. No matter what you say about editing and everything else, she was pathetic, childish and bullyish in her attitude the way she went back to camp to drag everyone into her argument with Sophie. Had she any sense at all, she should have resolved it one-to-one with Sophie. The very fact that she didn't only adds fuel to the fact that she did it to focus the attention on herself and to manipulate the others. I can't see any good in this woman as a contestant and honestly wouldn't miss her at all. She's gone well past the entertainment value IMO.
Veri
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by moogester:
“They should make Ant or Dec do the trial if the "celeb" won't when it's being shown live ”

But they're not desperate-for-fame attention-seekers and so wouldn't do it.

Indeed, a possible reason for Nat's behaviour is that she's not desperate enough.

She knows she's disappointed. She's not going to feel good about this, contraty to the implausible interpretation that would have her thinking a strategy of getting camera time without doing the trial has worked.
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“i do like your rose tinted specs”

Sure, I'm putting a positive spin on what she did and giving her the benefit of the doubt. But why not? I'd rather do that then put everything she does in the worst possible light, as so many others are doing.
kizzie
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by JTW:
“Veri, your losing the battle here. Natalie brought it on herself tonight. No matter what you say about editing and everything else, she was pathetic, childish and bullyish in her attitude the way she went back to camp to drag everyone into her argument with Sophie. Had she any sense at all, she should have resolved it one-to-one with Sophie. The very fact that she didn't only adds fuel to the fact that she did it to focus the attention on herself and to manipulate the others. I can't see any good in this woman as a contestant and honestly wouldn't miss her at all. She's gone well past the entertainment value IMO. ”


Yes Thats what I think to And so do a few others in there
Huggy said the same why bring it back to the camp oh yer an audience
Veri
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by JTW:
“Veri, your losing the battle here.”

I didn't expect to win it, or even to change any minds, just as I didn't when defending Shell and others in BB5.
Quote:
“IMO. ”

Fair enough: your opinion.
Zaphodski
25-11-2004
We know that Nat craves attention however it would be better to make her suffer through as many trials as possible and STILL vote her out asap. It should be interesting to see the reaction of the others to the fact that they are getting more and more hungry because she acts up, get's voted by the public to do the trial because they can't stand her and then comes back with a crap number of meals. That would be funny!!
Veri
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by kizzie:
“Huggy said the same why bring it back to the camp oh yer an audience ”

There's an obvious reason for bringing it up in front of the people who had made similar complaints about her, and it has nothing to do with wanting attention or an audience.
Veri
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by Zaphodski:
“... it would be better to make her suffer through as many trials as possible and STILL vote her out asap. It should be interesting to see the reaction of the others to the fact that they are getting more and more hungry because she acts up, get's voted by the public to do the trial because they can't stand her and then comes back with a crap number of meals. That would be funny!!”

You enjoy cruelty? You don't find anything wrong with that?
kizzie
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by Veri:
“There's an obvious reason for bringing it up in front of the people who had made similar complaints about her, and it has nothing to do with wanting attention or an audience.”

OH So now your the mind reader

if I were having a ruck with someone (even if others had stirred) I would not suddenly just stop and wait till I was with other people and start again in fact I would not do it in front of other people !
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