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Thanks to Natalie They Will Probably Scrap the Live Task Idea From Now on..
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Huch'net
25-11-2004
Thanks Nat, hahaha! Bet the producers were shi--ing it! Well serves them right for editing the footage in such a way to get a person voted twice, this series is so fake.. :yawn: .
Sara & Emma
25-11-2004
If it means we get The Bill back next week, then good.

Emma
JTW
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I didn't expect to win it, or even to change any minds, just as I didn't when defending Shell and others in BB5.

Fair enough: your opinion.”

Veri, I don't even think it's anything to do with winning. I don't honestly think Natalie should even have done the show. I don't think she's even mentally prepared for it. Her behaviour on the first night was bad enough and made me think - is she stable? Seriously, I think she has got major issues and obviously easily manipulated if she can sit and listen to the likes of Sheila.

But then again, if I'm wrong and she's strong-minded, this again leaves me thinking that she herself is very manipulative and has created a show for herself for public sympathy or attention.

Whoever the real Natalie is and yes, I'm aware there's more to her than what I'm saying here, she's doing herself absolutely no favours at all and generating the kind of reactions with the public much like what she's getting on this forum. My honest opinion, I think she should pull out before she totally flips it.
Mirage
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by Sara & Emma:
“If it means we get The Bill back next week, then good.

Emma”

TV schedule on digiguide is showing next thursday as another 2 part ITV1 programme. Only day they do, so they must have planned another live trial for then too.
JTW
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by Mirage:
“TV schedule on digiguide is showing next thursday as another 2 part ITV1 programme. Only day they do, so they must have planned another live trial for then too.”

They'll be safer getting the emu's or hogan to do it.
KittyLitter
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by kizzie:
“Yes Thats what I think to And so do a few others in there
Huggy said the same why bring it back to the camp oh yer an audience ”

Ahh yes, Huggy Bear. He doesnt say much, but what he DOES say, is very very accurate .....
Veri
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by T--J:
“I'm really not trying to be rude but if that's the case, I don't really see why you're watching it. Especially if all you want to see is normal people - IAC is all about being over the top not normality. ”

I didn't say I wanted to see normal people, much less that that's all I wanted to see. But if someone behaves in a reasonably normal fashion, they shouldn't be vilified for it.

As for the point about most of Celeb not being very entertaining, I watch because I thought it would be better. Many others are also complaining about the live show.

But the Natalie parts have been far from the lest entertaining, at least for me. Brian complaining that the rice was wet. Now that was a low.

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“I do and I have a feeling that ITV will be not too pleased at the way it worked out - although I agree with you that they manipulated it that way.”

I'm sure they're not pleased, but I think it's good that their manipulations backfired.
kazzy
25-11-2004
Sophie apologised a few times, and she was the one who made the effort to make up afterwards. Was disappointed that no-one seemed to stick up for Sophie. I don't particually like Sophie, but can't see that she deserved what happened tonight.
Veri
25-11-2004
Originally Posted by JTW:
“Veri, I don't even think it's anything to do with winning.”

Then why talk of "losing"?

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“I don't honestly think Natalie should even have done the show.”

I've seen a lot of people say that about various Big Brother contestants. I don't think we can properly tell from here.

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“Whoever the real Natalie is and yes, I'm aware there's more to her than what I'm saying here, she's doing herself absolutely no favours at all and generating the kind of reactions with the public much like what she's getting on this forum...”

I think you're probably right there, unfortunately, especially with the spin it's likely to get in the press.
Veri
26-11-2004
Originally Posted by kizzie:
“OH So now your the mind reader ”

No, I'm pointing out that there's a possible reason (actually more than one) that's different from the one everyone's assuming applies.

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“if I were having a ruck with someone (even if others had stirred) I would not suddenly just stop and wait till I was with other people and start again in fact I would not do it in front of other people ! ”

You might if you thought they agreed with you and would back you up, or if you had lost confidence in what you'd said and wanted their views (regardless of whether they agree or not), or if you were upset and couldn't keep it in, or ...

It's not as if all the others resolve all issues privately. Haven't you listened to the comments in the jungle telegraph?
Mesostim
26-11-2004
Originally Posted by Veri:
“.... that's different from the one everyone's assuming applies.”

How do you know...are you reading our minds?
Veri
26-11-2004
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“How do you know...are you reading our minds?”

The use of the word "audience" is a bit of a give-away, and anyone who thinks I've got them wrong can correct me.
Alrightmate
26-11-2004
Originally Posted by moogester:
“I liked the way when she was shouting her friends names, she gave Kate Thornton's full name, just in case we might have thought she had a friend called Kate who wasn't famous ”

Hey that's well spotted moogster.
I see where you are coming from now.

I can see why you say that.
If you put yourself into a mindset where you imagine it was you yourself doing the task,...how natural would it feel to yourself to speak the full name?

You just wouldn't do it if you were genuine in your intentions, it wouldn't feel natural to say.

For Natalie to say "Kate Thornton" instead of just "Kate"...it just isn't a natural way to communicate directly with your friend if they are watching.

Sounds more like she was just desperately namedropping, hoping to gain favour with name association with another celebrity. (Who is actually getting regular work at the moment)
It sounds to me that she added the "Thornton" bit at the end for the benefit of the viewers.
bill luvs t.v
26-11-2004
maybe she's got a few friends called Kate.
baileybots
26-11-2004
Originally Posted by bill luvs t.v:
“maybe she's got a few friends called Kate.”

its well known that shes freinds with kate thornton, she was name dropping
Sara & Emma
26-11-2004
If she thinks name dropping Kate Thornton is going to make people think more of her, she's more screwed up than I thought.

Emma
Mirage
26-11-2004
Originally Posted by baileybots:
“its well known that shes freinds with kate thornton, she was name dropping ”

Imagine if they all starting doing that at the trials. It would be like a game of trumps.

Janet to Natalie: My Elton tops your Kate Thornton
Paul to Janet: My Queen tops your Queen.

Crazy
Sara & Emma
26-11-2004
Originally Posted by Mirage:
“Imagine if they all starting doing that at the trials. It would be like a game of trumps.

Janet to Natalie: My Elton tops your Kate Thornton
Paul to Janet: My Queen tops your Queen. ”

Very good.

Emma
kizzie
26-11-2004
Originally Posted by Veri:
“No, I'm pointing out that there's a possible reason (actually more than one) that's different from the one everyone's assuming applies.


You might if you thought they agreed with you and would back you up, or if you had lost confidence in what you'd said and wanted their views (regardless of whether they agree or not), or if you were upset and couldn't keep it in, or ...

It's not as if all the others resolve all issues privately. Haven't you listened to the comments in the jungle telegraph?”

yes i have heard the jungle telegraph thats the whole point when you snap you snap there and then
not accept the apologies then have a hug , then wait till you get back and complain that the sodding hug wasn't given heartfelt enough

And no i would not do that ! once its over its over And I would not need any back up if I thought i was in the right !
JTW
26-11-2004
Originally Posted by Mirage:
“Imagine if they all starting doing that at the trials. It would be like a game of trumps.

Janet to Natalie: My Elton tops your Kate Thornton
Paul to Janet: My Queen tops your Queen.

Crazy”

LOL

Vic to Joe: More people know me mate
Huggy to Fran: Have you been in any films, who are you anyway?
Sheila to Brian: I was more famous than you even if it was 30 years ago...and breaks into song.

Oh I'm rambling now.
metafis
26-11-2004
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I didn't expect to win it, or even to change any minds, just as I didn't when defending Shell and others in BB5.

Fair enough: your opinion.”

Hi Veri.

You keep saying what you feel Veri, ya doing a grand job .
personally I think Nat is great tv, so she throws a wobbly, its what people want to watch isnt it.
So I say thanks Natalie, great tv, hope you stay in the camp a while.
Sheila is the real villian of this whole situation imo. like Adele winding up Jade in BB3 and then sitting back and watching the fireworks.
talbothays
26-11-2004
Originally Posted by moogester:
“I liked the way when she was shouting her friends names, she gave Kate Thornton's full name, just in case we might have thought she had a friend called Kate who wasn't famous ”

Kate Thornton is famous?

Sure she's on TV a lot, but I've never quite figured out why!
metafis
26-11-2004
Because she a very good live tv presenter?.
dome
26-11-2004
Originally Posted by kazzy:
“Sophie apologised a few times, and she was the one who made the effort to make up afterwards. Was disappointed that no-one seemed to stick up for Sophie. I don't particually like Sophie, but can't see that she deserved what happened tonight.”

It's pretty obvious from the others reaction towards Sophie that alot has gone on that we haven't been shown.
gentle
26-11-2004
Originally Posted by metafis:
“Hi Veri.

You keep saying what you feel Veri, ya doing a grand job .
personally I think Nat is great tv, so she throws a wobbly, its what people want to watch isnt it.
So I say thanks Natalie, great tv, hope you stay in the camp a while.
Sheila is the real villian of this whole situation imo. like Adele winding up Jade in BB3 and then sitting back and watching the fireworks.”

Very astute, thought I was the only person who had seen Sheila dropping littles drips of poison into Nats ear and telling her to have it out with Sophie
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