[WhyHelloWorld]

Why do people say "i dont think Deana would of been as popular without the Conor thing"

She was in top 5 of polls before the conor thing and was 2nd on TellyMix poll (the most accurate) the week before the Conor thing....so that point is invalid.

[cyberwar]

Originally Posted by trevor tiger

And you don't see Adam's desperation and tactics and ruthlessness? Not a little bit dewey eyed about him Granny are we? I'm a Deana fan and have no problem with ruthlessness when used appropriately. She's been tenacious regarding Conor and stood up for herself against Caroline's gang / bullying mentality and faced Luke S when he asked about the 'fake' relationship. She wouldn't back down and if that's ruthless bring it on.

By the way I like Adam too and would be happy for him to win. They are all playing a game, playing up to the cameras and WANT to win to some degree or other.

Oh dear.

[marquis]

i can only see deena winning but i think it will be by default cause every other housemate has shown some form of nastiness, adam i do like but him getting upset wen he was up was not good and he does flip at deena too much, luke a has nice qualititys but i believe his rightouus path will be his undoing he chats behinds ppl bck but he dnt like housemates for that, so for these reasons i believe denna will win, plus she will get the female vote for wat conner said to here

[Seren13]

Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld

Why do people say "i dont think Deana would of been as popular without the Conor thing"

She was in top 5 of polls before the conor thing and was 2nd on TellyMix poll (the most accurate) the week before the Conor thing....so that point is invalid.

TBF from what I see, Deanna's fans refer to it just as much but in a 'defensive' way. Maybe that's why some are nor entirely convinced.
For me it doesn't even equate because she has no idea it happened so I can't say she 'reacted' in any way. I don't mind Deanna, I think she's an 'ok' housemate. There are a few 'ok' housemates, but they're not idolised in the same way as Deanna and if they ever dare to challenge her on anything then their popularity drops.

You are right, there is more than one person in the top 5. It's not all about Deanna

[Dexter32]

Originally Posted by Sam Seed

aww, poor deana. surely theres a reason why the whole house cant stand her

Because she is thick skinned and has integrity. She doesn't get in peoples faces and doesn't go round manipulating house mates.

[Dexter32]

Originally Posted by Seren13

TBF from what I see, Deanna's fans refer to it just as much but in a 'defensive' way. Maybe that's why some are nor entirely convinced.
For me it doesn't even equate because she has no idea it happened so I can't say she 'reacted' in any way. I don't mind Deanna, I think she's an 'ok' housemate. There are a few 'ok' housemates, but they're not idolised in the same way as Deanna and if they ever dare to challenge her on anything then their popularity drops.

You are right, there is more than one person in the top 5. It's not all about Deanna

It's ALL about Deana. DEANA DEANA DEANA!!!

[yellowlabbie]

Originally Posted by Seren13

TBF from what I see, Deanna's fans refer to it just as much but in a 'defensive' way. Maybe that's why some are nor entirely convinced.
For me it doesn't even equate because she has no idea it happened so I can't say she 'reacted' in any way. I don't mind Deanna, I think she's an 'ok' housemate. There are a few 'ok' housemates, but they're not idolised in the same way as Deanna and if they ever dare to challenge her on anything then their popularity drops.

You are right, there is more than one person in the top 5. It's not all about Deanna

Maybe it has something to do with the way Deana is challenged especially by her friends. Adam has never challenged Lauren or Adam the way he has done Deana. If you have a problem with a friend you have a chat with them away from everyone, Adam knows full well how some of them feel about Deana but he doesn't make him think about what he is saying/doing.

[WhyHelloWorld]

Originally Posted by Seren13

TBF from what I see, Deanna's fans refer to it just as much but in a 'defensive' way. Maybe that's why some are nor entirely convinced.
For me it doesn't even equate because she has no idea it happened so I can't say she 'reacted' in any way. I don't mind Deanna, I think she's an 'ok' housemate. There are a few 'ok' housemates, but they're not idolised in the same way as Deanna and if they ever dare to challenge her on anything then their popularity drops.

You are right, there is more than one person in the top 5. It's not all about Deanna

I think Deana has got the respect from people because of the way she has handled herself throughout. Adam treats Deana horribly - he never treated Luke A or Lauren like that - and constantly doubts her, when she has only ever been loyal to him.


I think Adam is in serious danger tomorrow.

[Seren13]

Originally Posted by yellowlabbie

Maybe it has something to do with the way Deana is challenged especially by her friends. Adam has never challenged Lauren or Adam the way he has done Deana. If you have a problem with a friend you have a chat with them away from everyone, Adam knows full well how some of them feel about Deana but he doesn't make him think about what he is saying/doing.

By the same point, he also felt the way Deanna had discussed whether he'd be a target for nominations with others as not what a 'friend' would do. He was also criticised for that because he wasn't happy with Deanna. Nobody always does things the right way, we all make mistakes..even Deanna. But it appears that whenever she does it is turned around so that the other person is in the wrong and their popularity drops because of it.

I actually like Deanna, but I don't think she's some kind of goddess of perfection either. My estimation of other housemates is not based on whether or not they dare to challenge or upset her. Adam and Luke A are equally as worthy of the title of best housemate as she is.

[Seren13]

Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld

I think Deana has got the respect from people because of the way she has handled herself throughout. Adam treats Deana horribly - he never treated Luke A or Lauren like that - and constantly doubts her, when she has only ever been loyal to him.


I think Adam is in serious danger tomorrow.

She hasn't handled herself any better or worse than some of the others. Deanna is not the only one that the 'insiders' have targeted

[WhyHelloWorld]

Originally Posted by Seren13

By the same point, he also felt the way Deanna had discussed whether he'd be a target for nominations with others as not what a 'friend' would do. He was also criticised for that because he wasn't happy with Deanna. Nobody always does things the right way, we all make mistakes..even Deanna. But it appears that whenever she does it is turned around so that the other person is in the wrong and their popularity drops because of it.

I actually like Deanna, but I don't think she's some kind of goddess of perfection either. My estimation of other housemates is not based on whether or not they dare to challenge or upset her. Adam and Luke A are equally as worthy of the title of best housemate as she is.

But that was a complete over-exaggeration. Deana stated the obvious and even Luke A had to point out to him that he was over reacting - so its not the same at all.

[Seren13]

Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld

But that was a complete over-exaggeration. Deana stated the obvious and even Luke A had to point out to him that he was over reacting - so its not the same at all.

The whole point is that it's completely normal to react to a situation where you feel someone has 'betrayed' you. Nothing Adam did was malicious in any way and when he did calm down they made up quickly. But also don't forget that Deanna felt she had done the wrong thing and was upset about it. They were both upset. But the blame always goes to the other housemate, whereas Deanna is always justified.

I'm not niave enough to not realise that no one's perfect and yet I can still like someone. Deanna isn't perfect, Adam isn't perfect..but I like them both

[wotnot]

[quote=Seren13;59852855] Nobody always does things the right way, we all make mistakes..even Deanna. But it appears that whenever she does it is turned around so that the other person is in the wrong and their popularity drops because of it.

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Good point, I have nothing against Deana, she certainly isn't the worst of the females but I can see why the HM's find her annoying and I understand fully why Adam was unhappy with her mentioning his name in reference to being targetted for nomination, if the idea wasn't there before it certainly was afterwards. A more cynical person might suggest that was exactly why Deana mentioned Adam, to take the spotlight off herself for a while.

[yellowlabbie]

Originally Posted by Seren13

By the same point, he also felt the way Deanna had discussed whether he'd be a target for nominations with others as not what a 'friend' would do. He was also criticised for that because he wasn't happy with Deanna. Nobody always does things the right way, we all make mistakes..even Deanna. But it appears that whenever she does it is turned around so that the other person is in the wrong and their popularity drops because of it.

I actually like Deanna, but I don't think she's some kind of goddess of perfection either. My estimation of other housemates is not based on whether or not they dare to challenge or upset her. Adam and Luke A are equally as worthy of the title of best housemate as she is.

This applies to all hms and fms, it's just that Deana has more fans than the others.

The fact that Adam reacted OTT to Deana on a few occasions is probably the reason why her fans reacted OTT. You can't have it both ways.

[yellowlabbie]

Originally Posted by Seren13

She hasn't handled herself any better or worse than some of the others. Deanna is not the only one that the 'insiders' have targeted

Well Adam hasn't been targetted, he's staying under the radar so as to not get nominated hence why he gets upset so easily when his name is mentioned.

[trevor tiger]

Originally Posted by cyberwar

Oh dear.

why are you upset. Perhaps read what I was responding to and my whole response and it might cheer you up

To paraphrase (because I like you ) granny Grunt said she didn't like Deana because she's ruthless and indicated she wasn't moved by her looks. I like Deana and said when she's been tenacious etc. I quiped that maybe Granny was missing Adam's bad points because she 'liked ' him.

I like both Deana and Adam equally but I'm not blind to their bad sides. Everyone has bad sides you know

[Kewpee]

Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld

I think Deana has got the respect from people because of the way she has handled herself throughout. Adam treats Deana horribly - he never treated Luke A or Lauren like that - and constantly doubts her, when she has only ever been loyal to him.

I think Adam is in serious danger tomorrow.

Like when she buddied up with Sheivonne and plotted agains Lauren do you mean.

Look, Deana has done some dodgy stuff, plus she's so easily led by the nose. Becky did it, Lydia did it, Sheivonne did it and now Sara is doing it.

I would be very wary of completely trusting her.

It's all about Deana, it's easy to lead her anywhere, as long as you make her the focus and the most important.

[Seren13]

Originally Posted by yellowlabbie

This applies to all hms and fms, it's just that Deana has more fans than the others.

The fact that Adam reacted OTT to Deana on a few occasions is probably the reason why her fans reacted OTT. You can't have it both ways.

Whether he reacted OTT or just reacted is a matter of opinion. He certainly reacted to the situation as he saw it. It's not until you think back on these things that you can decide whether your reaction was merited or OTT. And Deanna herself felt upset because she realised she had some responsibility in it. You're right..you can't have it both ways. I don't want it both ways, I only want to see things as they are with two decent people making mistakes sometimes and without a bias towards either of them

[Kewpee]

Originally Posted by yellowlabbie

Well Adam hasn't been targetted, he's staying under the radar so as to not get nominated hence why he gets upset so easily when his name is mentioned.

So tipping fishy slop over Arron, saying exactly what he thought about Sheivonne in the red/green task, telling Caroline to stop picking at his friends (he said this in the DR, unfortuantely we seem to be missing soooo much this year).

Is flying under the radar?

[yellowlabbie]

Originally Posted by Seren13

Whether he reacted OTT or just reacted is a matter of opinion. He certainly reacted to the situation as he saw it. It's not until you think back on these things that you can decide whether your reaction was merited or OTT. And Deanna herself felt upset because she realised she had some responsibility in it. You're right..you can't have it both ways. I don't want it both ways, I only want to see things as they are with two decent people making mistakes sometimes and without a bias towards either of them

But it is not unusual for fms to be biased towards their favourites. It doesn't only happen with Deana, it's the same for all hms. It the same for Caroline and Conor but it is not so obvious because they don't have many fans on here.

I am fed up with fms constantly moaning about Deana fans, it's about time this forum stuck to talking about the hms and stopped making fms look bad for their own favourites to look good. I won't hold my breath though.

[cyberwar]

Originally Posted by yellowlabbie

Well Adam hasn't been targetted, he's staying under the radar so as to not get nominated hence why he gets upset so easily when his name is mentioned.

If Adam was try to staying under the radar, he most certainly would not display his emotions

[yellowlabbie]

Originally Posted by cyberwar

If Adam was try to staying under the radar, he most certainly would not display his emotions

Of course he has, he hasn't confronted anyone but Deana because she is the house football.

[Ultra Violet]

Originally Posted by yellowlabbie

Of course he has, he hasn't confronted anyone but Deana because she is the house football.

She certainly is ... it is sad to behold ... and a salutary lesson in the nastier elements of human nature and crowd mentality ...

Whereas I used to quite like the Outsiders I now find it hard to excuse their unwillingness to ever stand up for her against horrible treatment ... they are much too keen on 'flying under the radar' for my liking ... I don't really respect that sort of thing ... I am much more partial to a 'speak truth to power' sort of response ... but maybe that is just me ...

[yellowlabbie]

Originally Posted by Kewpee

So tipping fishy slop over Arron, saying exactly what he thought about Sheivonne in the red/green task, telling Caroline to stop picking at his friends (he said this in the DR, unfortuantely we seem to be missing soooo much this year).

Is flying under the radar?

OK he tipped fish over Arron, that's just one thing, he doesn't say what he thinks to peoples faces though does he? Oh sorry, apart from Deana that is, and then he lets the whole house in on it.

[cyberwar]

Originally Posted by yellowlabbie

Of course he has, he hasn't confronted anyone but Deana because she is the house football.

Now that is a bit of an exaggeration.


If you have an non confrontational manner, that does not mean you are hiding under the radar.

Because he likes Deana, he will speak to her, he thinks the others are not worth it as he knows they only care about the "insiders". Like he said, he has told Caroline about her behavior before, and it goes in one ear and out the next.