[babybutch]

Originally Posted by qg2010

I agree,she lacks manners and her personality and comments are just rude.

She lacks everything. Even half normal clothing. No wonder she is constantly wrapped in towels,her wardrobe is attrocious. Even worse than Ash's & that is saying something. It's like she ran into a Charity shop & scooped up whatever was handy & threw it into her case.
If I were her parents I'd send that Finishing School some tapes of their daughter giggling like a fool at everything everyone says in serious conversations & constantly ripping lumps out of her 'friends' behind their backs......that ought to get them a refund by return of post . She has no self-awareness whatsoever......laughing at someone supposedly eating with their hands,then eating cereal with HER hands.Making fun of others' eating habits while she is stood there scraping a foil container with her fork to get the last crumbs of food,like a starving street urchin. She is an appalling human being & no wonder her parents distance themselves. Mother knows best methinks.

[Jennyuk]

Originally Posted by babybutch

She lacks everything. Even half normal clothing. No wonder she is constantly wrapped in towels,her wardrobe is attrocious. Even worse than Ash's & that is saying something. It's like she ran into a Charity shop & scooped up whatever was handy & threw it into her case.
If I were her parents I'd send that Finishing School some tapes of their daughter giggling like a fool at everything everyone says in serious conversations & constantly ripping lumps out of her 'friends' behind their backs......that ought to get them a refund by return of post . She has no self-awareness whatsoever......laughing at someone supposedly eating with their hands,then eating cereal with HER hands.Making fun of others' eating habits while she is stood there scraping a foil container with her fork to get the last crumbs of food,like a starving street urchin. She is an appalling human being & no wonder her parents distance themselves. Mother knows best methinks.

Spot on post.

[Queeniejean]

Originally Posted by carolinesfriend

She just laughs when things are funny or when she's feeling awkward

Were you one of the females in the clip on Bbbots?
I bet you all have a wheeze belittling waitresses etc who have the misfortune to cross your path.
They may not be able to retaliate for fear of losing their job but never fear they will have got you back, especially if you order a frothy coffee.

[Pollyusa]

Originally Posted by Northern-star

@Caolinesfriend. Was Caroline as you describe her at school? Fun, witty and from what I gather from your posts, popular?

here's what Caroline herself had to say about her school years

Caroline attended a private prep school, “for very sheltered little girls” where she was quite rowdy with her bad behaviour including “stealing all the wine at a parents’ evening and then stealing more wine at a school play. I was stomping around the stage, fell off it and threw up”.

Read more: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bb13/housemat...#ixzz21h7sFvsw

[bearbum72]

What is wron with Caroline?

EVERYTHING!

I haven't seen 1oz of decency, compashion, caring anywhere in this vile excuse of a human being, her parents should be totaly ashamed that this is the product of there parenting skills.

[Jennyuk]

She dropped a child off a chair lift

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm319SBR6lI

[Otto J]

Originally Posted by Pollyusa

Thanks so much both of you. I have another question if you would be so kind....I've been wondering about Ashleigh's manner of speech. I'm referring to her extremely poor grammar. She often says things like "I aint got nothing to wear". Is this an affectation or ignorance ...or maybe neither?

I'd call it a regional accent. It's similar to the accent you would have heard in the East End of London 60 years ago; it has moved gradually eastwards as people from that area have spread out into Essex. The grammar (double negatives etc) has a lot in common with other UK regional accents, but some of the pronunciation is distinctive (for instance, the long "a" sound when she says "house", and maybe the "f" in "think").

So I wouldn't say that it's a sign of affectation or ignorance; it was just the accent she grew up with. But you could say it's not a prestigious regional accent in the UK at the moment, unlike some others.

[Sandie_Browne]

Originally Posted by Shute

With Luke A I can't decide of she is genuinely (that word ) revolted by any talk of transitioning or completely embarrassed by any talk involving sex, sexuality, genitals yada yada.

She sniggered and snorted like that at Benedict.

Lets be honest, she sniggers and snorts at anyone who's speaking, and takes the attention away from her.

[Heavenly]

I would rather she stay in this week and Ashleigh or Luke S go, they offer nothing at all to the show.

[What name??]

Originally Posted by peterstone

Laughing at Luke A now laughing at Luke S explaining about wine

She's an idiot

Or she finds pomposity funny.

[basia]

Originally Posted by carolinesfriend

Does anybody else think that if Caroline laughing at the table is the biggest talking point of tonights show, she must be a pretty interesting housemate. I watch this show for Caroline but cannot remember a thing about todays show already.

The most interesting thing about the dinner party was Ashleigh struggling to make a valid point, and failing abysmally. Pretty obvious what she was attempting to say, not one of her friends helped her out rather than sniggering or looking embarrassed. Seemed like only Adam tried to engage with her point and talk it through respectfully.

Caroline being rude isn't a 'story' any more. Hasn't been for yonks, but good for you for rallying to her support.

[glowboy]

Originally Posted by carolinesfriend

She is brilliant, some people just laugh when they feel awkward

You need to recheck on the definition of "brilliant".

She is the worst BB housemate.

Ever!

Horrible, just horrible!

[carolinesfriend]

Originally Posted by glowboy

You need to recheck on the definition of "brilliant".

She is the worst BB housemate.

Ever!

Horrible, just horrible!

I rechecked it and yes she's still brilliant, witty, great fun and a great housemate

[carolinesfriend]

Originally Posted by basia

The most interesting thing about the dinner party was Ashleigh struggling to make a valid point, and failing abysmally. Pretty obvious what she was attempting to say, not one of her friends helped her out rather than sniggering or looking embarrassed. Seemed like only Adam tried to engage with her point and talk it through respectfully.

Caroline being rude isn't a 'story' any more. Hasn't been for yonks, but good for you for rallying to her support.

If that was the most 'interesting' part where are the threads on it?

[Northern-star]

Originally Posted by Pollyusa

here's what Caroline herself had to say about her school years

I am glad you posted that as I have been wondering about something........................If she was the kind of girl at school that Caroline's friend seems to imply in her posts, and now from Caroline's own words. I find the descriptions of this persona in her school days in direct contrast to the ostracised, bullied girl that she was describing herself as to Adam, when she was crying to him after being reprimanded by BB for addressing Adam as a gorilla

[Pollyusa]

Originally Posted by Jennyuk

THE HMS QUALIFICATIONS

Adam: Massage Therapist

Arron:

Ashleigh: 3 GCSEs, Diploma in Holistic Therapy, Business & Admin Diploma

Becky: 10 GCSEs, BTech in Performing Arts

Benedict: PGCE in secondary education, BA in Politics, 4 A-levels (French, German, Politics, General Studies), 11 GCSEs

Caroline: GCSEs, A-levels, Skiing qualification

Conor: Massage Therapist, Personal Trainer, Fitness Instructor, Lifeguard, 6 GCSEs

Deana: GCSEs, GNVQ in ICT, A-level in ICT

Lauren: 10 GCSEs, 3 A-levels, studying for a Joint Honours in Criminology and Sociology.

Luke A: 10 GCSEs, 3 A-levels

Luke S: GCSEs, A-levels, partial Degree in Real Estate Management.

Lydia: 11 GCSEs

Sara: 6 Intermediate 2s, 4 Highers, Degree in Marketing

Scott: 10 GCSEs (6 A*s, 4 As), 4 A-levels(3 As, 1 B)

Shievonne: GCSEs


http://bigbrotheruk-s2.channel5.com/...y=12#frmfilter

TITLE
Day 15: Did the housemates choose the smartest three?

Thanks for this

Interesting...Ashleigh's quote says she only has 2 GCSEs and in Caroline's vid she says she failed her AS exams.

Ashleigh - “people say you can’t do it because you don’t have this or that like only two GCSEs but if you set your mind to it you can do it”

Read more: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bb13/housemat...#ixzz21h7WIsd5

[Pollyusa]

Originally Posted by Otto J

I'd call it a regional accent. It's similar to the accent you would have heard in the East End of London 60 years ago; it has moved gradually eastwards as people from that area have spread out into Essex. The grammar (double negatives etc) has a lot in common with other UK regional accents, but some of the pronunciation is distinctive (for instance, the long "a" sound when she says "house", and maybe the "f" in "think").

So I wouldn't say that it's a sign of affectation or ignorance; it was just the accent she grew up with. But you could say it's not a prestigious regional accent in the UK at the moment, unlike some others.

I appreciate your reply, this is all new information to me and explains so much.

[Pollyusa]

Originally Posted by Northern-star

I am glad you posted that as I have been wondering about something........................If she was the kind of girl at school that Caroline's friend seems to imply in her posts, and now from Caroline's own words. I find the descriptions of this persona in her school days in direct contrast to the ostracised, bullied girl that she was describing herself as to Adam, when she was crying to him after being reprimanded by BB for addressing Adam as a gorilla

She must have said the same thing to Lauren. Lauren in a radio interview related how Caroline claimed her bitching was because she was bullied.

I must say, I suspect that Caroline behaves the same way in her real life as she does in the house...and she thinks people's negative react to her behavior is them bulling her.

[bblover]

Foot in mouth disease?

[B L Zeebub]

Originally Posted by Pollyusa

Whether ain't is perfectly acceptable English is open to debate. It's not often heard in the USA

It an't necessarily so!

[adwalton]

Originally Posted by AndrewPd

Didn't Luke A pose the question though so that he could get his story out again. his struggle for acceptance.

Surely there is more to his personality than that?

He didn't pose any question. He was answering the question of what was his greatest regret.

[adwalton]

Originally Posted by babybutch

She lacks everything. Even half normal clothing. No wonder she is constantly wrapped in towels,her wardrobe is attrocious. Even worse than Ash's & that is saying something. It's like she ran into a Charity shop & scooped up whatever was handy & threw it into her case.
If I were her parents I'd send that Finishing School some tapes of their daughter giggling like a fool at everything everyone says in serious conversations & constantly ripping lumps out of her 'friends' behind their backs......that ought to get them a refund by return of post . She has no self-awareness whatsoever......laughing at someone supposedly eating with their hands,then eating cereal with HER hands.Making fun of others' eating habits while she is stood there scraping a foil container with her fork to get the last crumbs of food,like a starving street urchin. She is an appalling human being & no wonder her parents distance themselves. Mother knows best methinks.

Not to mention dropping yoghurt into her mouth straight from the carton. Is that a cultural thing where she comes from?

[adwalton]

Originally Posted by Otto J

I'd call it a regional accent. It's similar to the accent you would have heard in the East End of London 60 years ago; it has moved gradually eastwards as people from that area have spread out into Essex. The grammar (double negatives etc) has a lot in common with other UK regional accents, but some of the pronunciation is distinctive (for instance, the long "a" sound when she says "house", and maybe the "f" in "think").

So I wouldn't say that it's a sign of affectation or ignorance; it was just the accent she grew up with. But you could say it's not a prestigious regional accent in the UK at the moment, unlike some others.

A regional accent is one thing, but getting the grammar and the words completely wrong is just ignorance and lack of education.

[Otto J]

Originally Posted by adwalton

A regional accent is one thing, but getting the grammar and the words completely wrong is just ignorance and lack of education.

Some forms of regional English have grammatical elements that aren't standard, as well as particular accents. So in some areas you hear (for instance) "he had went" instead of "he had gone". Ashleigh's double negatives are the same kind of thing. It's true that people are more likely to take exception to regional grammar than a regional accent.