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Old 15-08-2012, 15:18
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Love that last line of your post, very true though, EE needs a big hitter in charge.

If the reveal fails to hit at least nine mill then the BBC will be disappointed.
I don't think it's the new producer's fault - Kirkwood left EE in the worst state it's ever been in, both quality-wise and ratings-wise. It's not going to be restored to it's former glory within a month, it's going to take a lot of time and effort, and from what I've seen so far, Lorraine Newman is the woman to do so. The Shirely/Ben/Ian stuff has been really gripping.

Anyway, I think the public are growing tired with soaps. Even on my beloved Corrie, the storylines are growing increasingly repetitive and unoriginal. There's simply too many episodes each week to maintain the quality needed to sustain big audiences. These declining ratings are a sign of the times.
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Old 15-08-2012, 15:22
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If only Graham Norton had been on...

Seriously, that is one hell of a line up. Would be tragic if only 2.5m watch and it gets beat by MOTD...
Although ALL the Olympic stars featuring have been interviewed numerous times on the BBC during the Olympics. It surely has to be exhaustive listening to the same answers over again.

Also, I don't believe in making celebrities out of our athletes. We will end up bigging them up so much and when in Rio they only get bronze medals and fourth places we will be slagging them off. Leave them be and let them have a good rest. Then they can go back to their near private lives and concentrate on their training.......privately.
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Old 15-08-2012, 15:30
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They aren't holding it back much longer
yes well they have held back far too long, I would have gone no later than duff duff of the first Monday episode.
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Old 15-08-2012, 15:35
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yes well they have held back far too long, I would have gone no later than duff duff of the first Monday episode.
The Sharon comeback story is also a bit piss poor. They could have devised something more believable surely?
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Old 15-08-2012, 16:01
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The Sharon comeback story is also a bit piss poor. They could have devised something more believable surely?
Sharon running away from the Wedding by itself is ok, but the kidnapping did seem a bit much.

That said its possible there is a darker reason behind the kidnapping which will play out later, but at first look its too much.
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Old 15-08-2012, 16:09
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The Sharon comeback story is also a bit piss poor. They could have devised something more believable surely?
Yes, another return of Dirty Den would have been very convincing.
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Old 15-08-2012, 16:12
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EE meanwhile failing to make 8 million:
BBC One = 7.19m
BBC Three = 733k
Total Overnight Audience = 7.923m

Thats just not very good
Hmm the figures for Monday were slightly underwhelming but I have to disagree about last night's figure being bad. On its own that 7.2m/7.9m looks unspectacular but when you look at the 38.2% share that's one of their highest shares for a while and not far off the magic 40% mark.

I think EE's ratings crisis is being overstated somewhat. Figures should pick up for all the soaps as we head into Autumn and let's not forget that it held up much better than anyone expected on BBC2.
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Old 15-08-2012, 16:19
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Yes, another return of Dirty Den would have been very convincing.
That isn't what I suggested and as well you know. She could have been running from loan sharks in the States after becoming involved with them inadvertently in order to support her son.
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Old 15-08-2012, 16:23
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I think EE's ratings crisis is being overstated somewhat. .
agreed
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Old 15-08-2012, 16:31
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Hmm the figures for Monday were slightly underwhelming but I have to disagree about last night's figure being bad. On its own that 7.2m/7.9m looks unspectacular but when you look at the 38.2% share that's one of their highest shares for a while and not far off the magic 40% mark.

I think EE's ratings crisis is being overstated somewhat. Figures should pick up for all the soaps as we head into Autumn and let's not forget that it held up much better than anyone expected on BBC2.
i agree. Also Emmerdale had a lower rating last night then on Monday so it seems less people were watching TV
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Old 15-08-2012, 16:37
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EastEnders skews young. How many are now watching on I-Player rather sitting down at the prescribed time. Viewing habits are changing at an amazing pace.

Even my 83 year old Dad doesn't watch tv other than sport at the prescribed time. He sits down with his TV Mag each week & decides what he wants to see & then sets his Sky+. If I ring he is often watching Sky sports at night & he decides what to watch in the afternoon from what he has recorded. If he is able to adapt at his age then surely everyone can.
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Old 15-08-2012, 16:47
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Lots of EE chatter here - does nobody watch Great British Bake Off or Accused

21:00 - Don't Tell the Bride: 721k (3.2%)
22:00 - Bad Education: 830k (4.3%)
* highest ever launch for a BBC Three comedy
22:30 - EastEnders: 733k (4.7%)
23:00 - Family Guy: 789k (6.6%)
23:20 - Family Guy: 899k (9.2%)
23:45 - American Dad!: 716k (9.6%)
24:05 - American Dad!: 587k (9.1%)
24:30 - Bad Education: 310k (7.5%)
Strong ratings for BBC3 last night, especially Bad Education, triple the % share comparing 9pm and 11:45pm.
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Old 15-08-2012, 16:51
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...used-sean-bean
Grauniad on Accused ratings etc
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Old 15-08-2012, 17:12
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Zai Bennett took a risk in scheduling Bad Education at 10pm and it worked. Subsequent weeks will see if the comedy continues to maintain that share in the former EE repeat slot.
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Old 15-08-2012, 17:26
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All this talk you would think EastEnders was about to get the chop! I've recently started watching again and I must say the quality has improved. Jive the old girl time (Not Lorraine Newman) although you should give her time. Her episodes have only recently started airing. Having said that I expect both Friday Episodes to fall below 7 million.

Great night for Beeb No.2 and that Lewis repeat is what superstar was getting wasn't it?

Does anybody know the All day shares. Being a rating nerd I find them most interesting.

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Old 15-08-2012, 18:01
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All this talk you would think EastEnders was about to get the chop! I've recently started watching again and I must say the quality has improved. Jive the old girl time (Not Lorraine Newman) although you should give her time. Her episodes have only recently started airing. Having said that I expect both Friday Episodes to fall below 7 million.
I believe it is only this week that Bryan Kirkwood's bulk of storylining actually ends. And no doubt ideas of his will be around for a good while yet. Next week is probably the very first of anywhere near Lorraine Newman eps. Up until now she's probably been exec producer in terms of production and making a couple of tweaks here and there. I still don't think what is on screen is anywhere near acceptable, let alone good. But that has been the case with EE for many years, with a few half decent blips. It can't be a lack of talent all these years, surely. Just comes across as people working on it not actually liking the programme.
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Old 15-08-2012, 18:02
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The Sharon comeback story is also a bit piss poor. They could have devised something more believable surely?
Agreed. Same old same old...only not as good as the old.
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Old 15-08-2012, 18:04
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i agree. Also Emmerdale had a lower rating last night then on Monday so it seems less people were watching TV
You're the only person thusfar to comment on that lousy rating for Emmerdale.

5.85m, what sort of number is that in ITV's post Olympics, post Jubilee relaunch week?

Everyone is back on the "EE in crisis" bandwagon, after it did surprisingly better than expected on BBC2. Now they are finding their voice again, seemingly expecting 9m a night in the mid August wasteland.

Where's this "relaunch" obsession come from anyway? It's got the same characters, same set, same theme tune. I doubt the average viewer hasn't the faintest idea the producer has changed, they haven't made a point of publicising it.
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Old 15-08-2012, 18:13
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You're the only person thusfar to comment on that lousy rating for Emmerdale.

5.85m, what sort of number is that in ITV's post Olympics, post Jubilee relaunch week?

Everyone is back on the "EE in crisis" bandwagon, after it did surprisingly better than expected on BBC2. Now they are finding their voice again, seemingly expecting 9m a night in the mid August wasteland.

Where's this "relaunch" obsession come from anyway? It's got the same characters, same set, same theme tune. I doubt the average viewer hasn't the faintest idea the producer has changed, they haven't made a point of publicising it.
This...The fact is the BBC should have promoted both storylines and they should have stated from Monday at 8:00pm rather then 'Next week or Coming Soon'
They have stopped the trailers now aswell

No mention of tonights episode so i expect that to fall below 7million

Mondays eps should timeshift quite well in the officials and both those eps and Tuesdays is in the top 5 on I player.

What did last nights Omnibus get? (if anyone knew it was on)

Back to last nights a 38% share isn't bad at all.
EDIT-The Murder reveal is tonight and the BEEB didn't even feel the need to mention tonights 7:30pm showing
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Old 15-08-2012, 18:48
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Very strong for The Accused, considering the daring subject matter, or were people also interested in what Sean Bean looks like in drag? I must say I have enjoyed most of these dramas in winter, but 5.19 million for a new, hard hitting drama on a hot evening in August is excellent.
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Old 15-08-2012, 18:52
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SCD will reveal this year's celebs at a red carpet launch on Tuesday 11th September

http://www.bbc.co.uk/showsandtours/s...ed_carpet_2012

....and they'll be paired up with their professional dancers on Wednesday 12th September

http://www.bbc.co.uk/showsandtours/s..._premiere_show

The premiere show will be transmitted on Saturday 15th September. Given approximately 3 weeks of training, that would suggest the live shows start around 6th October (no surprises there).
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Old 15-08-2012, 18:57
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Far more interesting than EastEnders is the 9pm battleground tonight.

- BBC1: Who Do You Think You Are?
- BBC2: Vexed
- ITV1: Football - England vs Italy
- C4: 24 Hours in A&E
- C5: Celebrity Big Brother Launch

For a warm August night, that is an incredibly competitive line-up. I can see the order as follows:

1. BBC1
2. C5
3. ITV1
4. C4
5. BBC2

I don't think the football will do well because the media don't seem as interested, possibly due to the Olympics, and I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see a high 4m or low 5m in the overnights for the football.

Celebrity Big Brother should average high 4m's, but then again the weather could hit it down to a high 3m along with Who Do You Think You Are, I know they appeal to different demographics, but Celebrity Big Brother tends to bring in an older demographic for the launch.
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Old 15-08-2012, 19:03
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Far more interesting than EastEnders is the 9pm battleground tonight.

- BBC1: Who Do You Think You Are?
- BBC2: Vexed
- ITV1: Football - England vs Italy
- C4: 24 Hours in A&E
- C5: Celebrity Big Brother Launch

For a warm August night, that is an incredibly competitive line-up. I can see the order as follows:

1. BBC1
2. C5
3. ITV1
4. C4
5. BBC2

I don't think the football will do well because the media don't seem as interested, possibly due to the Olympics, and I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see a high 4m or low 5m in the overnights for the football.

Celebrity Big Brother should average high 4m's, but then again the weather could hit it down to a high 3m along with Who Do You Think You Are, I know they appeal to different demographics, but Celebrity Big Brother tends to bring in an older demographic for the launch.
Have C5 promoted CBB outside their own channels? If it wasn't for this thread I'd have no idea there was a celebrity series running this summer, let alone starting tonight.
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Old 15-08-2012, 19:07
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Far more interesting than EastEnders is the 9pm battleground tonight.

- BBC1: Who Do You Think You Are?
- BBC2: Vexed
- ITV1: Football - England vs Italy
- C4: 24 Hours in A&E
- C5: Celebrity Big Brother Launch

For a warm August night, that is an incredibly competitive line-up. I can see the order as follows:

1. BBC1
2. C5
3. ITV1
4. C4
5. BBC2

I don't think the football will do well because the media don't seem as interested, possibly due to the Olympics, and I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see a high 4m or low 5m in the overnights for the football.

Celebrity Big Brother should average high 4m's, but then again the weather could hit it down to a high 3m along with Who Do You Think You Are, I know they appeal to different demographics, but Celebrity Big Brother tends to bring in an older demographic for the launch.
Heavy rain could increase viewing figures tonight. I'll go for 5 million for WDYTYA, 4.5 million for the CBB launch and 4 million for the football, as all appeal to different audiences and football fans tend not to like the first two options.
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Old 15-08-2012, 19:08
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Very strong for The Accused, considering the daring subject matter, or were people also interested in what Sean Bean looks like in drag? I must say I have enjoyed most of these dramas in winter, but 5.19 million for a new, hard hitting drama on a hot evening in August is excellent.
I'm so glad Accused got a great rating. It was one of the best dramas i have seen this year. Actually all of the dramas coming up on the BBC look good. As Grimshaw says i think Ripper Street could be the surprise hit this Autumn.
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