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The Ratings Thread (Part 38)
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AnthonyC
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Not as quiet as GeorgeS.”

I'm worried. I'm organising a international search team to look for George. Rumour has it he's staying at an ostrich farm in the Maldives taking a very close look at the sand but should be back a week tomorrow.
Charnham
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Emmerdale is on too much, which is stretching the cast and scriptwriters abilities. It would be better off losing the extra episode, having more resources put in and getting some really big names to join- have they ever considered hiring Kate O Mara? I don't want Emmerdale axed, as ITV would flounder, but it needs some emergency surgery.”

not sure that is a good idea

yes ok in the past Kate was very sexy

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45594544@N08/5231185468/

now she is just a warning about the use of plastic surgery.

http://static.bbci.co.uk/programmeim...4ef5527e58.jpg

and yeah I know, real women age, blah blah blah, but that does note excuse the surgery.
danisfunny
05-08-2012
I think 2012 has been an exciting year for TV, some of the highest ratings of the century, some amazing shares, as well as a few unexpected hits and flops... A great year for the BBC with new hit shows across previously difficult time slots in the first half of the year, and now a great summer of sport, however *cough* The Royal Bodyguard *cough* has had some tumbles as well... ITV have excelled in new areas, but some cracks are widening in those it used to reign over the BBC in... C4 and 5 have tried to some success to move on from older views of the channels, with C4 finding success with docudramas and C5 slowly moving away from over dependency on CSI, but both having some errors with the scheduling or application with flagship shows...

But this year truly belongs to the BBC celebrating 80 years of television broadcasting, with amazing ratings, talent and displays of innovation and diversity across all channels. 2013 will be nothing compared to 2012...


It's so nice to get back to scrolling through this thread after a holiday with no WiFi aha.... :
ftv
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by AnthonyC:
“I'm worried. I'm organising a international search team to look for George. Rumour has it he's staying at an ostrich farm in the Maldives taking a very close look at the sand but should be back a week tomorrow. ”

I heard he was down at the beach volley ball
AnthonyC
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by ftv:
“I heard he was down at the beach volley ball”

Oh no, hope not. Might give him ideas for a new ITV1 post-watershed gameshow...
Glenn A
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by danisfunny:
“I think 2012 has been an exciting year for TV, some of the highest ratings of the century, some amazing shares, as well as a few unexpected hits and flops... A great year for the BBC with new hit shows across previously difficult time slots in the first half of the year, and now a great summer of sport, however *cough* The Royal Bodyguard *cough* has had some tumbles as well... ITV have excelled in new areas, but some cracks are widening in those it used to reign over the BBC in... C4 and 5 have tried to some success to move on from older views of the channels, with C4 finding success with docudramas and C5 slowly moving away from over dependency on CSI, but both having some errors with the scheduling or application with flagship shows...

But this year truly belongs to the BBC celebrating 80 years of television broadcasting, with amazing ratings, talent and displays of innovation and diversity across all channels. 2013 will be nothing compared to 2012...


It's so nice to get back to scrolling through this thread after a holiday with no WiFi aha.... :”

The BBC has also scored a major comedy hit with Mrs Brown's Boys. I'm confident Doctor Who will bounce back as the stories look far better than last year's. However, as you've pointed out, David Jason has scored his first flop for decades and the revival of Ab Fab was poor.
ITV, well nice to see ITV3 overtaking ITV2 at times and ITV4's coverage of Le Tour and the TT was excellent and fair play for them branching out into international tennis. However, we can't get away from the fact ITV2 is still trashy( BUT GIVES ITS AUDIENCE WHAT THEY WANT) and ITV1's new entertainment shows are a complete disaster and Daybreak is stalling.
As for Channel 4, too much of the same few shows, although Million Pound Drop does well for them and is good. Channel 5 seems to do OK on a limited budget and I like a lot of their films and factual, but I think it's time they axed BB but kept CBB, which is their biggest rater.
Bushmills
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“That makes sense. Unfortunately, before Emmerdale can improve, the people involved have to admit to themselves that it has problems, but I don't know if that's going to happen.

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Emmerdale was on a real roll in 2010, almost on a par with Corrie. But then its star producer, Gavin Blyth, became seriously ill and died.

It benefitted from the momentum he'd created for quite a while, but for the last 12 months has been going steadily downhill. Just shows what an impact a really strong producer with a sure touch can have.
allthingsuk
05-08-2012
Hmmm. Don't know if it's old news but the Olympics evening programme has been split so there's another show from 9.45pm to 10.15pm containing the 100m final.
Salv*
05-08-2012
Any ratings for Friday at all?
Pizzatheaction
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“Emmerdale was on a real roll in 2010, almost on a par with Corrie. But then its star producer, Gavin Blyth, became seriously ill and died.

It benefitted from the momentum he'd created for quite a while, but for the last 12 months has been going steadily downhill. Just shows what an impact a really strong producer with a sure touch can have.”

True. I think he'd be devastated if he could see what it's become.

The last episode I saw (a few weeks ago) seemed like a cross between BBC1's short-lived 1995 soap Castles and one of Victoria Wood's Acorn Antiques sketches.
Dancc
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Any ratings for Friday at all?”

We'll get the 9pm figures tomorrow when www.broadcastnow.co.uk updates.

I must say, even though it's by far the main ratings story in town, the editorial decision taken by DS to only report Olympic related ratings (and soaps) during the fortnight seems a little extreme given their usual policy is to ignore sports ratings altogether.

Whilst I am, like everyone else it seems, enjoying the Olympics from a programming point of view (not a ratings point of view) I do look forward to things returning to normal so there's more to discuss in here.
Dancc
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“True. I think he'd be devastated if he could see what it's become.

The last episode I saw (a few weeks ago) seemed like a cross between BBC1's short-lived 1995 soap Castles and one of Victoria Wood's Acorn Antiques sketches.”

The reviews for Emmerdale have not been at all flattering of late, but not sure how relevant the point is to ratings when the show seem to be holding up satisfactorily at the moment (pre-Olympics certainly*, and I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt since).

The worst I could say about it at this point is for all it's (reported) faults, the viewers have largely remained loyal to the programme. And with viewership like that, it can bounce back from any bad patch.

*=source: 'Emmerdale pips EastEnders on Thursday night' [20/07/12, DS].
D.M.N.
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“We'll get the 9pm figures tomorrow when www.broadcastnow.co.uk updates.

I must say, even though it's by far the main ratings story in town, the editorial decision taken by DS to only report Olympic related ratings (and soaps) during the fortnight seems a little extreme given their usual policy is to ignore sports ratings altogether.

Whilst I am, like everyone else it seems, enjoying the Olympics from a programming point of view (not a ratings point of view) I do look forward to things returning to normal so there's more to discuss in here.”

The problem with Friday's and Saturday's ratings articles (here and here) is that there is very little information in the articles!

A bit like a bare-bones piece.
Pizzatheaction
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“The reviews for Emmerdale have not been at all flattering of late, but not sure how relevant the point is to ratings when the show seem to be holding up satisfactorily at the moment (pre-Olympics certainly, and I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt since).

The worst I could say about it at this point is for all it's (reported) faults, the viewers have largely remained loyal to the programme. And with viewership like that, it can bounce back from any bad patch.”

I supose it's the same kind of audience loyalty EastEnders benefitted from until recent months. I could see big problems developing with EastEnders by late 2010, but the audience figures were resilient much longer than that. It was a delayed reaction, but the ratings have started to suffer. Assuming the recent changes behind the scenes actually put things right, it could take a year or so until that's achieved, and the ratings could be worse by that point.

I think Emmerdale's delayed reaction will come, and if ITV and Emmerdale's team haven't yet reached the point of realising the soap has problems, let alone doing anything about them, viewers could be looking at at least another year of sub-standard stuff, by which point the ratings could be very amus..., erm, interesting.
MattJKR
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“The problem with Friday's and Saturday's ratings articles (here and here) is that there is very little information in the articles!

A bit like a bare-bones piece.”

It's almost as if they are using the information provided by other sources on the internet that is being posted in this thread and re-hashing it into articles of their own...
Dancc
05-08-2012
Nobody noticed as I'm roughly the only one watching but the first trail for Dallas aired on C5 before Once Upon a Time.

'The Greed', 'The Money', 'The Glamour' it teases as the legendary theme music kicks in, over shots of various locations used in the show, before the '5' logo reveals itself in the centre at the end.

I'm tentatively pencilling in 2nd September as a likely start date as a 4 week promotional campaign sounds about right and Once Upon a Time draws to a close the week before. Only question marks are whether it will be 8pm or 9pm and where the John Barrowman fronted docs about the revival will air.
Brekkie
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“^Nope, afraid not.

For the equivalent BBC One timeslots above, these were the BBC Three numbers, using the equivalent timeslots so I can write the shares:

BBC Three
18:45 to 22:30 - 1.42m (6.0%)

And a BBC Three primetime, 15-minute breakdown:

19:30 - 1.41m (6.5%)
19:45 - 1.71m (7.7%)
20:00 - 1.82m (8.0%)
20:15 - 1.37m (5.9%)
20:30 - 1.29m (5.4%)
20:45 - 1.48m (6.0%)
21:00 - 1.19m (4.5%)
21:15 - 1.45m (5.6%)
21:30 - 1.39m (5.2%)
21:45 - 1.39m (5.2%)
22:00 - 2.41m (9.4%)”

Great to see that given the choice of football and world class sport, people voted with their remotes for our athletes with talent. Quite surprised how poor that figure is for the football really - even with the great figures on BBC1 I'd have thought 2-2.5m would watch the football.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“The opening ceremony for the Olympic Games had an official, consolidated rating of 24.24m (80.8%), making it the highest rated programme on British television in sixteen years..”

Brilliant. I don't think the closing will top it but as it's been such a good games it might come close. The BBC forcing us to go cold turkey the next day though - can't believe they're not capitalising on it with something on the Monday reliving the golden moments of the games.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Just spotted that the EPG's and the Radio Times website has split tonight's broadcast, so 18:50 to 21:45 and then 21:45 to 22:15.”

Very annoying for anyone who has recorded it as unlike the opening ceremony the two programmes aren't linked - so if you've taped tonights show hoping for the 100m final your recording will cut off before it.

Originally Posted by lala:
“Surely the tennis today will be up there between 12-15 million tuning in?”

I doubt it'll be that high - unlike Wimbledon the Murray final was just another medal opportunity and although it'll rate well, I think the peak will be around the 10m mark, average 7m or so. Apart from the result too it wasn't that great a match.
Andy23
05-08-2012
Dancc will like this, I'm currently staying in a hotel in Elstree enjoying some real life Olympics action. One group had taken over the plasma tv in the bar last night and were excitedly watching. What were they watching? You've guessed it Big Brother. I can only assume they were family/ friends of housemates as I believe they film in round here.

The Olympics naysayers are becoming a smaller group as the days go by. I don't think I've met anyone who isn't completely absorbed in every moment of it. The BBC's coverage has been fantastic.
Ryan_Glasgow
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by C14E:
“It's incredible (and slightly depressing) to think that next summer, they could show some of these "minority sports" in Saturday primetime and they'd probably do no better than what ITV usually show in the summer! Yet just now, Jessica Ennis, Victoria Pendleton, Mo Farrah, Chris Hoy, Katherine Grainger and others are the most famous people in the country. The IOC may well be corrupt as an African dictator but they definitely do something right!

And to go back to the discussion of a few days ago, I absolutely think that the brilliant performances from GB are fuelling the ratings. And of course, cycling and athletics will be seeing a lot of lottery funding heading their way.”

Yes, it is quite sad to think that the exact same sports boasting massive ratings now are normally very unapealing. I looked on Barb back to July 2002 and for the week 22nd to 28th the 2002 Commonwealth Games Opening Ceremony was only 4th () top rated on BBC1. It had an audience of just over 8 million! The games too were held in the UK, Manchester, but mustered significantly less viewership. Have times changed and people just care more about sport than they did back then or do the Olympics just have something special? I wonder because it is now only 2 years till the 2014 Glasgow Commonwealth Games and I wonder what ratings we will see for that. What, I'm proud of my city and I hope the best for it!
niceguy1966
05-08-2012
The Commonwealth Games are a second division competition in my opinion. Many of the top athletes are not competing, so the excitement is far less.

With China and USA easily ahead in the Olympic medal table, how can a competition without either country be compared?
garyessex
05-08-2012
Really don't get the excitement of the 100m Its over in 10 seconds and totally obvious to even the braindead what the result will be
D.M.N.
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“Really don't get the excitement of the 100m Its over in 10 seconds and totally obvious to even the braindead what the result will be”

Would you be saying that if it was a world record?
DiamondDoll
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by niceguy1966:
“The Commonwealth Games are a second division competition in my opinion. Many of the top athletes are not competing, so the excitement is far less.

With China and USA easily ahead in the Olympic medal table, how can a competition without either country be compared?”

I think you are missing the point of the Commonwealth Games.

It'll be fabulous.
garyessex
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Would you be saying that if it was a world record?”

Probably yes... It's just...in comparison to what Jess did across the week it seems like alot of attention and adulation for such a short race
Glenn A
05-08-2012
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Dancc will like this, I'm currently staying in a hotel in Elstree enjoying some real life Olympics action. One group had taken over the plasma tv in the bar last night and were excitedly watching. What were they watching? You've guessed it Big Brother. I can only assume they were family/ friends of housemates as I believe they film in round here.

The Olympics naysayers are becoming a smaller group as the days go by. I don't think I've met anyone who isn't completely absorbed in every moment of it. The BBC's coverage has been fantastic.”

It's filmed on the sprawling Elstree Studios site, which was home to many of the sitcom spin offs and British horrors of the seventies. However, getting near the BB house is a bit like trying to break into 10 Downing St- pretty much impossible.
I really have enjoyed the Olympics and even the biggest non fans, like my sister, have become regular viewers. From a ratings point of view, they have been excellent. I'm watching about 3-4 hours a day and it's been a real joy.
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