I thought Channel Seven was Australia's biggest commercial channel?

Wryip said it himself, as he out of the blue positioned a target on my head and unleashed his rant, BB UK didn't take 4 years off as BB Australia did.

But hey-ho, let's compare apples and oranges anyway. That's always fun.

Seven is still the overall market leader. Although Nine are having their best year for a while. Not sure how close it is now but they've won a few weeks of ratings this year, and the Olympics has been a big help.

Weren't comparing an evening show (Celebrity Masterchef) to one in primetime (Big Brother) earlier, funny how you're happy to "compare apples and oranges" when it suits you.

Both programmes aired in peak-time. Both are not rating as well as they used to for whatever reason. And both programmes are in the same genre and on channels that are relatively closely aligned ratings wise. For those reasons, it felt relevant to me, especially when you factor in C5 adverts and lower reach on average compared to BBC Two. If you disagree, that's perfectly fine. But it's not quite the same as comparing ratings for a show in one country to a different show in another at very different stages.

Seven
18:00 News: 1.33m
18:30 Today Tonight: 1.18m
19:00 Home & Away: 1.02m
19:30 The Amazing Race Australia: 896k
20:30 Winners & Losers: 941k

Nine
18:00 News: 1.18m
18:30 A Current Affair: 1.04m
19:00 Big Brother: 1.33m
20:00 The Big Bang Theory (R): 1.07m
20:30 New Series: Anger Management: 1.11m
21:00 Anger Management: 1.11m

Ten
17:00 News: 687k
19:00 MasterChef All Stars: 788k
20:00 Everybody Dance Now: 324k

ABC1
19:00 ABC News: 979k
19:30 7.30: 679k
20:00 Foreign Correspondent: 671k
20:30 Three Men Go to Venice: 620k

Nine won the night comfortably with a 25.1% share. Seven was next in line with 21.1%. Ten could only muster 11%, beaten for the second consecutive evening by ABC1 on 12.7%.

Big Brother logged another promising rating with nothing else coming close during its timeslot. And Anger Management premiered reasonably well. What was most impressive about the latter though was the retention for episode 2.

C5 appear to have pushed the boat out in an attempt to keep CSI's audience for Person of Interest. Firstly it aired with no preceding ad break so started at around 9:59PM, directly after CSI (except an ident), and it had an extended first part meaning the first break was around 10:20PM, with the rest airing at normal time,

didnt realise TEN had stripped Everybody Dance Now, damm its like there Red or Black? and lets be honest MasterChef All Stars isnt looking healthy either.

Yeah, that was a good move. I didn't think they would. Reaction very positive on Twitter, but it was mostly hated here on Digital Spy so difficult to know what to expect in the morning. They've done all they can for it and now it's in the hands of the ratings gods.

Also looking forward to Great British Bake Off ratings, without a shadow of a doubt the ratings story of last year.

If C5 are paying £20m a series that's about £300k an hour for 1m viewers, that's a heck of lot money for so few viewers?

Does BB bring new viewers across the channel or do they just switch on and off for BB?

The Marco Pierre White programme was a massive turkey that I think went from 1m to below 300k viewers. I doubt anyone will be asking for seconds.

its not great, but its not bad.

Nobody knows how much it costs, it's just speculation. My theory though is they wouldn't have renewed it for two more years if they were losing money on it. But hey, it's just a theory !

Airing a show throughout Christmas is always asking for trouble. The BBC could easily throw a couple of big shows against it during that period and normal scheduling habits are thrown out for a fortnight. If the show takes a hit from being lost during Christmas then it's going to have a massive uphill battle, especially if there's still a fair few episodes to go during January. Too risky IMO.


Even if it was only Hussain's role or anchoring some BBC3 coverage, it's still presenting part of the biggest TV event for years and years but instead she chose a big pay day over the highlight of any presenter's career...


I doubt it will be above 5m. The last series was under 3m IIRC. Im sure it was very good and worthy of the praise but McGovern type dramas are good for Baftas but not big ratings.

just because the role didn't exist in the coverage, didn't mean it would not have happened, and lets face it, if she had stayed she would have been involved in the Olympics alot more than the amount she was.

She also would not be a massive failure.

Surely they'd have given her a Reggie Yates style follow a young athlete around for a day role or perhaps a Helen Skelton, get involved with a sport role?

im sure they could have found something, even if it was just more indepth interviews with meddling winning British athletes at the media centre.

On Big Brother, I think it can be forgiven due to The Olympics BUT were saying here that because people are missing the show they don't catch up with it - unlike the soaps obviously.

Well Weekends are dreadful ratings wise, and I think that those lost viewers affect the rest of the week, and the series overall. Instead I'd do this, and honestly think this could see 1.8-2.5 mill a night.

Monday - 9-10:30: Big Brother Live - Sofa based show. Interviews, discussions and a recap of the weekend, post eviction Friday -> Sunday events in the house mixed in between. This is where the audience jump back on board. A host that people want to tune in for every Monday (look forward to throughout the week), and analysis of things. Discussions with housemates/producers/fake-psychologists - the lot! And jumping to live events like IAC do with the tasks in the last half hour.

Tuesday - Thursday - 10:00 Big Brother - The usual recorded, voiced over stuff.

Friday - 8:30-10 - BB Eviction - Sofa based look back at the week; some interviews. then in the last 15 minutes, the eviction and interview.

Monday show gives the audience a jumping on point every week. Its long and everything is very well scheduled, think morning shows - tell the audience what/who is coming up and when. This isn't 'watch the entire 90 minutes' but it'll still rate well. This will help the rest of the week and the series overall.

Then its just the rest as per usual. I'm not sure how the weekend shows can be defended; they do nothing but make the show inaccessible to the majority of the audience.

Have you actually seen the Australian version, because I'm just wondering whch elements Nine have copied from Channel 5 (other than the eye looking the same)


With Australian ratings multiplying things by 3 is not really a good comparison as that figure of 1.61m are only from those who live in the big five cities, where around 60% of the population live. Multiplying it by 5 would probably be more accurate, meaning it launched with the equivalent of 8m in the UK


Seven will be pleased that Big Brother dropped, 1.33m is probably te level at which Nine would be hoping it averages really, if it drops to 1.1m or lower tonight the signs aren't good. If the drag queen programme on Ten fails tonight it should be a good season for the X Factor

Surprised that Seven are planning on dropping Rafters yet have renewed both Winners and Losers and the Amazing Race based on those figures.

The glass ceiling for Home and Away seems to be 1.02m, same amount two nights in a row despite it being an 'event week'


Its only on for 3 nights this week, this is common practice for audition shows, AGT was Monday-Wednesday as is the X Factor, The Voice like EDN is Sunday-Tuesday. Next week it will be on Sundays and Mondays (unless ten pull the plug)

CBS thriller Person of Interest premiered on Channel 5 with 1.52m/8.6%.

I love the BBC but "The Flowerpot Gang"??? In peak-time??? Seriously? Sounds like a poor excuse for a programme - conflating "Ground Force" and "Anneka's Challenge". BBC One stuck in the 1990s...

Is she actually still working for ITV, doesn't seem to have done anything for ages.

Channel 5 Overnights: Tuesday 14th August

06:00 Milkshake!: 134k (3.5%)
09:15 The Wright Stuff with Hardeep Singh Kohli: 283k (5.2%)
13:45 Neighbours: 640k (9.0%)
14:15 CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: 299k (4.9%)
15:10 My Neighbour's Keeper: 594k (8.1%)
17:00 5 News at 5 with Emma Crosby: 595k (5.9%)
17:30 Neighbours [Rpt]: 805k (6.6%)
20:00 Extraordinary People [Rpt]: 708k (3.6%)
21:00 Season Finale: CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: 1.72m (7.5%)
22:00 New Series: Person of Interest: 1.52m (8.6%)
23:00 Series Finale: Big Brother's Bit on the Side: 346k (3.5%)
00:00 Banged Up Abroad: 188k (3.9%)

Accused - 5.3m
Holby - 4.8m
Bake Off - 3.5m

All from Sam Hodges.

Also 830k for Bad Education.

Super rating for The Great British Bake Off! Person of Interest didn't start off too well, but I have to question why it was on at 22:00. You wouldn't get BBC or ITV putting a new series on at 22:00....

So person of interest did a bit worse than CSI, but timeslot wise slightly better, Interesting to see next week when it gets a permanent timeslot