But Prince eff up his career while Madonna and signcifghantly Michael did pretty well for a period of time in the pop charts

Had those child allegations not come about and he had been in the right frame of mind, i feel Michael Jackson would have dominate the majority of the 90's and maybe he till be alive today putting some of these generic artists to shame!

debbie harry did half the stuff madonna did back in the 70s

there were also loads of people doing big shows in the 70s long before madonna. if you mean a show where acts lipsync and dance instead of singing and playing instruments, then michael jackson beats her to that

Okey Dokey

When did Debbie ever do this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGYVJUMB4-8

This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-LhM35jSP0

This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pehMBaHgpWE

This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftXHKfbXeBM

This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np_Y740aReI

Or even this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s15GTGdUuvM

Prince is superior musically, Madonna and MJ are/were superior for their impact on the music scene as a whole.

Someone is just pissed off that Prince effed up his career and became bitter ever after. Just saying.

Sorry about my reaction for those offended.

Just disargeed with some of the comments made.

I'm not Madonnas biggest fan but arguably there has been no one like her (female artist). She has opened and pushed the boundaries for whole generations of female artists. Even I can see that without Madonna there would be no Gaga, Britney, Xtina etc...... Only in death can she actually become a bigger star than what she is.

But back on topic MJ was the biggest star of them all. Even after his convictions his crazed fans still stood by him. Even now new generations of MJ fans are coming out.

While both Madonna and MJ were bigger than Prince, that doesnt take anything away from him. He was a huge very talented star. Unfortunately he was just a bit mad.

he didn't eff up his career. he's playing bigger and bigger gigs to bigger and bigger audiences, and getting critical acclaim for doing so, plus a bigger fee each time

who holds the current record for the biggest residency of all time, smashing the previously held record considerably?

personally, i preferred the time when he was LESS successful and playing smaller gigs, but the great thing about prince is he will play 21 nights at the 02 to 18,000 people in the main arena, sold out every night, and then play a small gig for the fans, and i was there front row every night, 2 gigs a day for 21 days, front row at every aftershow, with a different setlist for every single gig, main show and aftershow. no complaints about hearing the same song twice or missing stuff out

what's the most number of nights madonna has done in a row at the o2? what's the most number of nights in total has she done at the o2?

i also remember 2004, prince's american only tour was more profitable than madonna's world tour

so not bad for someone who effed up their career

Gafawwwww Debbie Harry did not do half the stuff Madonna did in the 70's

Do you mean he grossed more than Madonna in America or out grossed her whole 2004 tour?

Because the Re-invention Tour of 2004 is one of the highest grossing of all time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._concert_tours


Prince isn't in the top 40.

*CLAPS*

Of course she did. Do you think madonna was an astronaught or something?

There is little that most artists do that haven't been done before.

No, I meant exactly what I said

I think he's referring to the Las Vegas residency.
You know Celine Dion style?

no. don't you know the difference between a tour and a residency?

or the difference between gross and profit?

/insert daft smiley to look stupid

No I don't. did you not read my other post admitting that I'm a stupid fan?

Honestly, I think DS should start remunerating you for being the residence expert.

Not the Michael Jackson, Madonna, Prince debate...who is more superior.

Michael Jackson is worshipped like a god, to his fans (never got it personally), so dare to criticise him, you will be sorry, to the fans he will be the greatest. To me nah, very much overhyped with a few good songs. Never understood the whole reaction to Thriller myself, just a pop album that in my eyes didn't really push that many boundaries, and I am not keen on Purple Rain either. Thought MJ got better and more experimental the further along in his career he went. Just my opinon so don't get upset, just agree to disagree we all have different tastes. But he is superior in worldwide success, Madonna won't be to far behind either.

Now if we are talking superior in musical ability then Prince wins hands down. Warner Brothers knew they had the next big thing, when he got his first contract with them, bear in mind he was still a relative unknown. He was given complete control of the studio, to do more or less what he wanted...hence the tag on his albums...produced, arranged, composed & performed by Prince. This was all relatively unheard of back in the day, and pretty much still is today.

Prince fans are very loyal, but they are also his biggest critics, we don't tend to have a god worship of him, we beat him down. We want the next sign o the times, Parade type albums. We may never get one again, but even so we are still wanting it, he has got it in him. It's just us Prince fans expect a lot, the expectation is always high, and if we don't get it he his pretty much crucified by his fans, not everything is gold. To be fair some of his worst albums though are still a lot better than most musicians best albums.

Prince may not be as relevant today in album charts/sales, but that is down to him, he still puts on a damn fine tour, and probably the best musician (live or dead) to see perform, no tricks (them days have gone, though lovesexy was a very good tour), just a tight band and real music by real musicians. Personal opinions and many would probably disagree, but one thing he ain't is manufactured!

With regards to each artists output then the following applies:-

Michael Jackson - 10 Studio Albums

Madonna - 12 Studio Albums

Prince - 25 Studio Albums

As I say all depends on what is meant by superior.

I have not said much about Madonna, who I like as well. She tries to change with the times and to stay relevant. Most of the time it works. Don't think their will ever be another female artist that will be as successful as her.

Michael Jackson & Madonna will appeal to the masses, Prince will appeal to those in the know

As a fan of Madonna and a big admirer of Prince I would have to say that in the 1980s - as I remember it - no-one touched Michael Jackson.

But all three, plus George Michael and Bruce Springsteen - were like pop royalty globally.

Interesting question. Michael Jackson's Off the Wall album was released in 1979, and was very successful. He was a big star, but not the mega star he became just yet. The Thriller album was released in November 1982, with the first single being The Girl Was Mine (with Paul McCartney).To me, the Thriller album really took off when the Billie Jean single and video was released a couple of months later. Then, with Beat It (and another great music video), Wanna Be Starting' Something, Human Nature, and the other singles, Michael's popularity really began to take off. His performance on the Motown anniversary special also was very noteworthy, too, and provided a great TV moment (him doing the Moonwalk during Billie Jean). The Thriller video, directed by John Landis, created more buzz for Michael. The Grammy wins and the Jacksons Victory tour in 1984 added to his popularity. Bad was released in 1987.

Prince was a critical favorite in the early 80's with the Dirty Mind and Controversy albums. Like Thriller, Prince's 1999 album was released during Fall 1982. It was the Little Red Corvette and 1999 singles, released the next year, that started his widespread popularity. With Purple Rain, the album and movie, released in summer 1984, his popularity really took off. The first single, When Doves Cry, was a great preview for the album. Then, Prince was quite prolific after Purple Rain with the Around the World in a Day, Parade, and Sign "O" The Times albums. The critics still liked his material, but his sales weren't as big as the Purple Rain soundtrack (which granted was a big, big seller).

Madonna came on the scene in 1983 with her self titled debut album. But, it was the Like a Virgin single and album that brought her the big success and notoriety. Her performance of LAV at the MTV Music Awards ceremony brought her attention, too. Then with the success of the Material Girl (and its Marilyn Monroe Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend inspired video) and Dress You Up singles, and Madonna's role in the film, Desperately Seeking Susan, and Madonna was now in the public eye. Then, you had the girls, teens, women etc. who started dressing like Madonna. Her marriage to Sean Penn brought her more attention, even with the disappointing Shanghai Surprise movie. The Like a Prayer and Justify My Love videos at the end of the decade and beginning of the new decade brought her much notice in the press, too.

So, I would say Michael Jackson was the most successful of the three in the 80's, with his popularity going down (as others have mentioned here) starting around 1992. Madonna had consistent success in the 80's, and was still doing quite well into the 1990's. She also made news with LAP and JML, as well as her Sex book in 1992 or so. Prince's big sales period was with Purple Rain, and he wrote songs for other artists that did well during this general time too (Manic Monday, Sugar Walls, The Glamorous Life, etc.). His popularity went down a bit around the time he wanted to be known as "Symbol".

My personal favorite, Bruce Springsteen, had his mega success with the Born in the U.S.A. album and tour during 1984 and 1985. He deliberately went for a "less loud" sound with Tunnel of Love in 1987. He's always sold well since, but the gigantic sales came during the BITUSA time period. His live shows are still fantastic!

Marshall

My article on the top ten songs about London (subjective, I know):

http://marshfish.hubpages.com/hub/Th...s-about-London
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^ Aside: Your songs about London are jolly well tip top, old bean! Pip! Pip! and tallyhoooo!

Thanks Jb. I appreciate it.

Marshall

My article on the top ten songs about London (subjective, I know):
http://marshfish.hubpages.com/hub/Th...s-about-London

who?...

shes nowhere near as big, here in the uk at least.


lol of course you arent! but you know what 'fans of' are like, especially mj's devoted.

hard to tell really whos going to be the greatest. mj was around first, so its hard to do a direct comparison, he was possibly the most talented at his peak...then he got turned into a legend (and that is not a compliment) and the truth became a blur.

madonna certainly pushed the boundaries for women further then they had done before, further then debbie harry did... however again debbie was 70's, madge was 80's when video technology was far more widely available. as i see it, madonna carried on what the likes of debbie harry started, debbie harry and others of course did that on the back of the punk rock explosion.... a-hem

MJ death proved that he was more superior than the other 2 but i think Madonna passing will reflect a similar showing of affection for her music like MJ. Prince, I just don't Know

Imagined if Madonna and MJ had collabrated on the "In The Closet" or Mj & Prince "Bad".
Those would been incredible recordings.