[toyotacity]

Just seen this

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/n...next-week.html

I'm happy it's being released again, i'm not fussed that it's not in HD and no trophies, i'm just happy to play it again

I've got it on my iphone, but can't get used to the controls

Can't wait to hear flashback fm again!

[Duncan_Styles]

Hmm, I didnt buy a PS3 to play PS2 games on it. Would rather they put the effort needed to get these PS1/2 games running on a PS3 into a new PS3 game. Run out of ideas already?

[blitzben85]

Originally Posted by toyotacity

Just seen this

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/n...next-week.html

I'm happy it's being released again, i'm not fussed that it's not in HD and no trophies, i'm just happy to play it again

I've got it on my iphone, but can't get used to the controls

Can't wait to hear flashback fm again!

Just search youtube, there is every radio station on there

[vampirek]

So basically its just GTA3, the same game from 10 years ago nothing new, nothing adapted and on a console which originally allowed people to play it using the disc they had. Seems a cheap way of making a few more pennies. I mean they could a done something like updated some of the graphics, for a company like Rockstar it wouldn't get taken that long.

[GARETH197901]

Originally Posted by vampirek

So basically its just GTA3, the same game from 10 years ago nothing new, nothing adapted and on a console which originally allowed people to play it using the disc they had. Seems a cheap way of making a few more pennies. I mean they could a done something like updated some of the graphics, for a company like Rockstar it wouldn't get taken that long.

Especially at the price that has been said,its selling for 10 dollars,when you look at the price compared to what the 10th Anniversary edition is selling on Google Play(under 5 dollars),its a tad overpriced

[ags_rule]

San Andreas and I'm sold!

[TheVoid]

I knew since the PS3 40GB was released that the PS3 could play PS2 games.

It annoys me because the system can clearly play PS2 games, and can clearly play DVD-ROM discs, so why not just enable the frigging thing to play everyone's discs.

This was just a ploy to make money. GTA3 will be £7.99 no doubt.

[grps3]

i'll get it if its not more than 7.99 ... hopefully gets a plus discount too

i'd rather it was vice city or san andreas though

[ncfclucia]

I think it's £6.30

[Ash_735]

Originally Posted by TheVoid

It annoys me because the system can clearly play PS2 games, and can clearly play DVD-ROM discs, so why not just enable the frigging thing to play everyone's discs.

Digital Foundry looked into this the other week, whilst the emulator works, it has to be tuned and resubmitted for every game, the same settings used on Virtual Fighter 4 for example will not be the same as the emulation settings used for GTA3, or any other games.

If they just activated the emulator and said go mad to people, they would be raging and submitting complaints to Sony about games not working properly, the console crashing, etc.

The best way to easily describe it, grab a PS2 emulator off the Internet, configure it so it works well with one game, ...and then try and different game and see how well it holds up. You'll notice, even on unofficial PC emulators, you're always having to change the settings depending on the game you want to play as there's different ways to handle EE emulation and GS threading.

Now transfer that over to official hardware and submission process, each game has to be tested, reconfigured in the emulator, and then resubmitted to Sony until they give it the green light.

Why do you see a lot of crappy games on the PSN? Easy, games that don't actually take full advantage of PS2 Hardware are much easier to emulate and test, you could get a batch of 10 crappy games done in the same time it takes to really configure a game from a high profile company who got the best out of the console.

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by Duncan_Styles

Hmm, I didnt buy a PS3 to play PS2 games on it. Would rather they put the effort needed to get these PS1/2 games running on a PS3 into a new PS3 game. Run out of ideas already?

GTA 5 is in development, it's not as if they ignoring the OS3 hardware. It would have been a different team that did this.

Having said that, if they could do an HD version for iOS then why not the PS3?

[Ash_735]

Originally Posted by Gormond

Having said that, if they could do an HD version for iOS then why not the PS3?

The 10th Anniversary Edition is not exactly HD, it's just the PC version with a new menu, the extra detail comes from the character models and vehicles, which use the upgraded ones from the 2004 Xbox version.

Visually, the 2004 Xbox version of the game is still the best looking version as that includes high res textures for the city as well.

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by Ash_735

The 10th Anniversary Edition is not exactly HD, it's just the PC version with a new menu, the extra detail comes from the character models and vehicles, which use the upgraded ones from the 2004 Xbox version.

Visually, the 2004 Xbox version of the game is still the best looking version as that includes high res textures for the city as well.

It runs at 2048 x 1536 so it's definetly HD, it looks far better than the PS2 version playing on my PS3.

[Ash_735]

Originally Posted by Gormond

It runs at 2048 x 1536 so it's definetly HD, it looks far better than the PS2 version playing on my PS3.

I think you mis-understood me, of course it will run in a HD resolution, it's the PC version, but visually the Xbox version is still the best, as that came out AFTER the PC version and features completely redone textures and a few higher quality models for the city area. As well as Higher Poly Characters and Vehicles with full time reflections and mapping.

The iOS/Android 10th Anniversary version is based on the PC version of the game but has the Vehicles from the Xbox version and SOME characters (Only main) from the Xbox version, the city, reflections, mapping details, etc, are all the same from the PC version, even the audio, which I complained against, is just the audio from the PC version rush converted to MP3.

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by Ash_735

I think you mis-understood me, of course it will run in a HD resolution, it's the PC version, but visually the Xbox version is still the best, as that came out AFTER the PC version and features completely redone textures and a few higher quality models for the city area. As well as Higher Poly Characters and Vehicles with full time reflections and mapping.

The iOS/Android 10th Anniversary version is based on the PC version of the game but has the Vehicles from the Xbox version and SOME characters (Only main) from the Xbox version, the city, reflections, mapping details, etc, are all the same from the PC version, even the audio, which I complained against, is just the audio from the PC version rush converted to MP3.

Interesting so it was somewhat rushed... At least there was some effort rather than just PS2 emulation though which will run at a shocking low resolution and look all jaggy as PS2 tend to.

[Ambassador]

San Andreas would be preferable.

GTA3 looks great on a mobile device like the Galaxy or Iphone but it's doing nothing for me

I hated the storyline and 8 Ball...

[blitzben85]

Originally Posted by Ambassador

I hated the storyline and 8 Ball...

Why ?

[celesti]

Originally Posted by Duncan_Styles

Hmm, I didnt buy a PS3 to play PS2 games on it. Would rather they put the effort needed to get these PS1/2 games running on a PS3 into a new PS3 game. Run out of ideas already?

What effort is that?

[KillerCloud]

I'm not sure if I'll get this, I definitely preferred Vice City and San Andreas but I've been playing 3 again on my phone and it's really good just I think I remember the control system being quite crap especially when it came to shooting. It may be worth the £6-8 tho.

[Ambassador]

Originally Posted by blitzben85

Why ?

Too much cliched mob/cartel stuff.

[TheVoid]

GTA3 will look terrible.

I tried it on the PS2 connected to my HDTV via a component cable, and it was blurry and just washed out. I doubt it'll look better as a digital download.

Saying that, I'll buy it tomorrow and never play it.

[thomas2400]

Originally Posted by Ambassador

Too much cliched mob/cartel stuff.

Erm... so the cliches and gangstar/hood stuff weren't to much for you in San Andreas

[MojoMaster]

It's funny that so many people choose to spend their money on this stuff.

Talk about cash cow.

[TheVoid]

Originally Posted by MojoMaster

It's funny that so many people choose to spend their money on this stuff.

Talk about cash cow.

What do you mean exactly?

How else am I supposed to play GTA3 if I feel like it?

I'd have to buy a PS2 and then buy the game. With the download, I have it on my PS3.

[redhatmatt]

Originally Posted by Ash_735

Digital Foundry looked into this the other week, whilst the emulator works, it has to be tuned and resubmitted for every game, the same settings used on Virtual Fighter 4 for example will not be the same as the emulation settings used for GTA3, or any other games.

If they just activated the emulator and said go mad to people, they would be raging and submitting complaints to Sony about games not working properly, the console crashing, etc.

The best way to easily describe it, grab a PS2 emulator off the Internet, configure it so it works well with one game, ...and then try and different game and see how well it holds up. You'll notice, even on unofficial PC emulators, you're always having to change the settings depending on the game you want to play as there's different ways to handle EE emulation and GS threading.

Now transfer that over to official hardware and submission process, each game has to be tested, reconfigured in the emulator, and then resubmitted to Sony until they give it the green light.

Why do you see a lot of crappy games on the PSN? Easy, games that don't actually take full advantage of PS2 Hardware are much easier to emulate and test, you could get a batch of 10 crappy games done in the same time it takes to really configure a game from a high profile company who got the best out of the console.

Do what Microsoft did, and give each game the opportunity to download an emulation profile off the internet when inserted. or store a database of emulation profiles in the PS3's firmware.