[zandar]

I was out last night so recorded the Olympic Opening from Freesat HD. On going to view this morning, find it is in 3D. Although I have a 3D TV, I do not have the glasses. Tried to convert back to 2D with no success.

What Freesat need to do is clearly prefix programmes in 3D with 3D.

Wonder if anybody else in the same situation?

[Wbc-Worker]

Originally Posted by zandar

I was out last night so recorded the Olympic Opening from Freesat HD. On going to view this morning, find it is in 3D. Although I have a 3D TV, I do not have the glasses. Tried to convert back to 2D with no success.

What Freesat need to do is clearly prefix programmes in 3D with 3D.

Wonder if anybody else in the same situation?

I don't think it was your mistake as it was 2D and then all of a sudden it changed to 3D ' all by itself '

On my Echostar HDS-600RS while watching it live I was able to toggle between 2D and 3D by pressing the information button but of course it may require a different button on your machine.

By the way its being repeated on BBC3 ' now '

[SWIZZ?]

Originally Posted by zandar

I was out last night so recorded the Olympic Opening from Freesat HD. On going to view this morning, find it is in 3D. Although I have a 3D TV, I do not have the glasses. Tried to convert back to 2D with no success.

What Freesat need to do is clearly prefix programmes in 3D with 3D.

Wonder if anybody else in the same situation?

I watched it live, with a Foxsat HDR.
I don't have 3D.
It started in 3D with an on-screen option to press Red to choose 2D. This I did.
However a few minutes from the end it flipped back to 3D, & pressing Red started to bring up CeeFax, so I toggled back to the 3D view, but kept trying, which eventually worked.
Weird & rather spoilt an otherwise brilliant show.
K. for Sir Danny in closing ceremony?
Ig-Nobel for Humax?
David

[zandar]

Many thanks for responses so far. Sounds like a cock-up in the transmission of this event via Freesat?

I originally set it to record on BBC 1 HD. As I was about to leave the house at 9pm, I noticed that the recording light had not come on so at about, 9.03 I pressed GUIDE & set it again from the EPG (light for recording came on). So, it might also have failed to start recording had I not done this.

Fortunately, I have now recorded the repeat from BBC 3 at 6am this morning - though it will be in Standard Def.

PS> I was using a Panasonic recorder.

[Night Watchman]

Originally Posted by zandar

What Freesat need to do is clearly prefix programmes in 3D with 3D. .... Sounds like a cock-up in the transmission of this event via Freesat?

No fault with the transmission - it has been widely reported on this forum and elsewhere in the TV Guides that the Opening and Closing ceremonies as well as the men's 100m final will be broadcast on BBC HD (109) in 3D. There is also a 1 hour programme of daily highlights in 3D at 11 pm (repeats at 7 & 8 the next morning).
In addition to the 3D transmission on BBC HD and the 2D transmission on BBC1 HD the BBC also provided 3 different versions of the opening ceremony on channels 151-153, without commentary, with AD and with commentary. Unfortunately Humax owners cannot record these HD streams (yet and it is very doubtful if they ever will be able to).

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by Night Watchman

Unfortunately Humax owners cannot record these HD streams (yet and it is very doubtful if they ever will be able to).

A beta fix is already being tested. Assuming no problems should be ota'd very shortly.

See from post 23 on.

http://myhumax.org/forum/topic/olymp...ordings/page/4

[zandar]

Originally Posted by Night Watchman

No fault with the transmission - it has been widely reported on this forum and elsewhere in the TV Guides that the Opening and Closing ceremonies as well as the men's 100m final will be broadcast on BBC HD (109) in 3D. There is also a 1 hour programme of daily highlights in 3D at 11 pm (repeats at 7 & 8 the next morning).
In addition to the 3D transmission on BBC HD and the 2D transmission on BBC1 HD the BBC also provided 3 different versions of the opening ceremony on channels 151-153, without commentary, with AD and with commentary. Unfortunately Humax owners cannot record these HD streams (yet and it is very doubtful if they ever will be able to).

Thank you for clarifying the matter. I obviously selected the BBC HD (3D) version. As I said initially, on the EPG, they should have had a '3D' Prefix.

[Winston_1]

Originally Posted by zandar

Although I have a 3D TV, I do not have the glasses.

Wonder if anybody else in the same situation?

Seems a bit of a waste. Why don't you get the glasses?

[zandar]

Originally Posted by Winston_1

Seems a bit of a waste. Why don't you get the glasses?

They wanted money for the glasses & as practically nothing was transmitted in 3D, could not see the point. Besides, the glasses are tinted & therefore the colours do not look so bright - plus you have got to wear the damn things.

[Muzer]

I recorded this in 3D for when I get my 3D TV, so I'll have some content to watch!

Going to record everything in the near future that's in 3D on my HTPC. I'll just have to figure out how to do a command-line repeat recording (I managed last night's, starting and stopping it manually) as I can't be bothered to set up mythTV properly right now (to get an unencrypted one ). I suppose I'd just set up a cron job...

[Humid]

I recorded the whole thing in 3D & I don't have a 3D TV. I did it so I can watch the best bits in 3D when I get one.

[fastest finger]

Originally Posted by zandar

I was out last night so recorded the Olympic Opening from Freesat HD. On going to view this morning, find it is in 3D. Although I have a 3D TV, I do not have the glasses. Tried to convert back to 2D with no success

I'd be interested to know what sort of TV you have, as mine (Samsung) can convert 3D to 2D with no problems. I would have thought they all worked in a similar way.

Try this....

Press the 3D button.
Select side-by-side 3D
Press the 3D button again
Select 3D -> 2D

[Winston_1]

Originally Posted by zandar

They wanted money for the glasses & as practically nothing was transmitted in 3D, could not see the point. Besides, the glasses are tinted & therefore the colours do not look so bright - plus you have got to wear the damn things.

So why did you buy a 3D TV? A standard one would have been cheaper.

[machare]

Originally Posted by fastest finger

I'd be interested to know what sort of TV you have, as mine (Samsung) can convert 3D to 2D with no problems. I would have thought they all worked in a similar way.

Try this....

Press the 3D button.
Select side-by-side 3D
Press the 3D button again
Select 3D -> 2D

My Samsung TV just has 2d-> 3D!

[figrin_dan]

Originally Posted by Winston_1

So why did you buy a 3D TV? A standard one would have been cheaper.

All the decent TVs have 3D bolted onto them. You can't escape!

[zandar]

Originally Posted by fastest finger

I'd be interested to know what sort of TV you have, as mine (Samsung) can convert 3D to 2D with no problems. I would have thought they all worked in a similar way.

Try this....

Press the 3D button.
Select side-by-side 3D
Press the 3D button again
Select 3D -> 2D

What you suggest works when watching live via the TV's Freeview HD tuner. It does not work with pre recorded material coming off a Panasonic Freesat PVR.

I purchased a Samsung UE6530 because it had the best rating for picture quality on a 32". Reviews said that it was still the best to buy even if you don't bother with the 3D.

[White-Knight]

Originally Posted by figrin_dan

All the decent TVs have 3D bolted onto them. You can't escape!

Yep and 3D can be very good as well depending on the system.

Moaning about glasses is like moaning about seatbelts in a car. They're a necessary evil but the better systems nowadays don't cause headaches or problems associated with the old red / green systems and the 3D's much better.

Originally Posted by zandar

What you suggest works when watching live via the TV's Freeview HD tuner. It does not work with pre recorded material coming off a Panasonic Freesat PVR.

I purchased a Samsung UE6530 because it had the best rating for picture quality on a 32". Reviews said that it was still the best to buy even if you don't bother with the 3D.

I'm surprised at what you've said as most 3D tv's come glasses included, at least a couple of pairs.

Maybe Samsung are not including them to keep the price low.

[derek500]

The opening ceremony is being repeated on BBC One HD on August 18th.

[Night Watchman]

Originally Posted by White-Knight

I'm surprised at what you've said as most 3D tv's come glasses included, at least a couple of pairs.

Sony sets don't normally have them free either - I think it is mainly the passive 3D ones like LG that include the glasses for free. Unfortunately for active 3D customers the manufacturers can't seem to agree on a common standard so the glasses are not normally compatible (sometimes not even with a manufacturers own range) which helps to keep the prices of glasses artificially high with no competition.

[fastest finger]

Originally Posted by machare

My Samsung TV just has 2d-> 3D!

Originally Posted by zandar

What you suggest works when watching live via the TV's Freeview HD tuner. It does not work with pre recorded material coming off a Panasonic Freesat PVR..

It sounds like the Freesat box is outputting SD (or at least the TV thinks it is), which is why it isn't giving you the full range of 3D options.

Firstly, double check that that you are on the HDMI input, and that the Freesat box is set to 1080i

If that's all OK, try resetting the box and checking all the HDMI connections, perhaps even swap some cables over.

If still no joy, there must be a hardware/firmware problem

[zandar]

Originally Posted by fastest finger

It sounds like the Freesat box is outputting SD (or at least the TV thinks it is), which is why it isn't giving you the full range of 3D options.

Firstly, double check that that you are on the HDMI input, and that the Freesat box is set to 1080i

If that's all OK, try resetting the box and checking all the HDMI connections, perhaps even swap some cables over.

If still no joy, there must be a hardware/firmware problem

All connections are via HDMI at 1080i output & I am getting full HD on the HD channels. (I put my own dish up & connected it so am pretty tech savvy. I just made this mistake because Freesat did not mark the programme as 3D on the EPG).

[fastest finger]

Originally Posted by zandar

All connections are via HDMI at 1080i output & I am getting full HD on the HD channels. (I put my own dish up & connected it so am pretty tech savvy. I just made this mistake because Freesat did not mark the programme as 3D on the EPG).

Sounds like there's a fault with the TV then in a way, your mistake could have been a lucky one if it's identified a problem. Hoping you're still under warranty and get it sorted.

[derek500]

Originally Posted by Night Watchman

I think it is mainly the passive 3D ones like LG that include the glasses for free.

Seven pairs with my LG. Six is most we've used at once.

[figrin_dan]

Originally Posted by White-Knight

Yep and 3D can be very good as well depending on the system.

Moaning about glasses is like moaning about seatbelts in a car. They're a necessary evil but the better systems nowadays don't cause headaches or problems associated with the old red / green systems and the 3D's much better.
.

To use that analogy, I think it is more like your car coming with a massive spoiler which doesn't affect the handling the way you drive so you don't get any pleasure from it. But some people like them.

[White-Knight]

Originally Posted by figrin_dan

To use that analogy, I think it is more like your car coming with a massive spoiler which doesn't affect the handling the way you drive so you don't get any pleasure from it. But some people like them.

Nice analogy but I think we'd have to say the spoiler does affect the handling though because the 3D tv systems without glasses are poor as my understanding goes from reviews I've seen. No-one has yet come out with a mass produced consumer tv that I've heard of that has good glasses free technology.

I'm afraid glasses (or spoilers!) are here to stay for the foreseeable future.

BTW although 3D is an acquired taste I can say that in my experience TV's vary a lot in 3 D quality but the goods ones are superb!

I was always a 3D sceptic (used to hate those red / green glasses and the poor 3D effects they produced with haloing), but now I love the modern 3D systems, well the good ones anyway. My best experiences have been with Panasonic Plasma's with 3D shutter and with a Samsung with Passive 3D. Both were superb!

My next tv is definitely a 50" 3D probably a Samsung.