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Why is BT Youview deal so bad ?
swedish cook
28-07-2012
BT[LIST][*]I buy my own Youview box for £300[*]I also pay a subscription of £10 per month for tv shows[*]I also pay to see movies[*]Broadband at £26 per month for unlimited usage[/LIST]http://www.productsandservices.bt.co...on_FURL_player

TalkTalk[LIST][*]Free Youview box[*]Free 12 months LoveFilm[*]Only 18 month contract and £14.50 per month for the deal INCLUDING unlimited broadband[/LIST]http://sales.talktalk.co.uk/product/broadband/plus

Is it just me or did TalkTalk just pull the rug from under BT ? So much for being partners in Youview !
linea
28-07-2012
Talk Talk may be the cheaper option except for the fact Talk Talk is a terrible broadband supplier and repeatedly the most complained about ISP in customer surveys.
It's also worth noting BT has it's own seperate network for carrying media based traffic, so streaming music and video isn't carried over the same network as net traffic and isn't as prone to slow down and buffering.

The fact Talk Talk are offering free Youview box, free Lovefim for 12 months and cheaper broadband doesn't necessarily mean it's a better deal. You may get some free goodies but you're stuck with awful broadband for 12 months.
promo-only
28-07-2012
BT haven't yet unveiled their YouView pricing or details of packages. The comparison above is quite unfair until BT's own bundles are announced.
Johnste
28-07-2012
Totally agree. I cant see BT not coming up with something that offers at least as much and probably more!!
Smiggs
28-07-2012
BT will more than likely integrate Youview into their BT Vision product given the money they are investing in the content for BT Vision platform it would seem utterly bizarre to offer essentially two competing products. I would imagine that the BT Vision box is more than capable of providing the same content as Youview.

You have to remember BT are a partner in this is because they are using the immense infrastructure BT has at it's disposal, BT will be making their money from Youview on the backend not through consumers.
swedish cook
28-07-2012
Originally Posted by promo-only:
“BT haven't yet unveiled their YouView pricing or details of packages. The comparison above is quite unfair until BT's own bundles are announced.”

Really, in what way is the comparison unfair ? This is the current BT deal for Youview, this is the current TalkTalk deal for Youview, is it not ?

Its true that the BT subsidised hardware deal has not been announced, but my point is that the "buy the box yourself" deal is so damn poor.

No its a fair and current comparison, I hope BT will come through (as I'm locked to BT for the year).
promo-only
28-07-2012
Originally Posted by swedish cook:
“Really, in what way is the comparison unfair ? This is the current BT deal for Youview, this is the current TalkTalk deal for Youview, is it not ?

Its true that the BT subsidised hardware deal has not been announced, but my point is that the "buy the box yourself" deal is so damn poor.

No its a fair and current comparison, I hope BT will come through (as I'm locked to BT for the year).”

No it is not. The current BT offer clearly states that current BT Vision services are available through a YouView box so if you have a box (namely a Humax one) and want to try Vision then you can.

BT - like TalkTalk this week - will be releasing their dedicated YouView pricing and package details in due course and that includes their very own Pace YouView box. The current comparison you give above is wide of the mark.
wwwebber
29-07-2012
Foolish post of the month. Person compares talktalk offer that we know about to a bt offer that no one knows anything about. Not too clever.
swedish cook
29-07-2012
Originally Posted by wwwebber:
“... a bt offer that no one knows anything about.....”

Its the one on the BT website in fact.

Youview has now been officially launched, its not prelaunch anymore, this is the latest BT deal and this is the latest TalkTalk deal. Your point that BT have not heavily publicised this deal is completely irrelevant.

If my post is foolish please correct me on the deal BT are offering.
ashjf
29-07-2012
My understanding when reading BT's offer is that it is regarding BT Vision Player on Youview boxes purchased in retail not BT's Youview offering.
stewM
29-07-2012
Originally Posted by ashjf:
“My understanding when reading BT's offer is that it is regarding BT Vision Player on Youview boxes purchased in retail not BT's Youview offering.”

Correct: http://www.digitaltveurope.net/26552...autumn/http://
Colin_London
29-07-2012
Originally Posted by swedish cook:
“Its the one on the BT website in fact.

Youview has now been officially launched, its not prelaunch anymore, this is the latest BT deal and this is the latest TalkTalk deal. Your point that BT have not heavily publicised this deal is completely irrelevant.

If my post is foolish please correct me on the deal BT are offering.”

This is not the BT deal!

This is an arrangement for BT Broadband customers who buy their own Retail priced Humax to access BT Vision.

The BT equivalent to the Talk Talk bundled deal has NOT been announced yet. It won't be until the autumn when the new Pace boxes are available.

So you can't compare these offerings. They are different things.
wwwebber
30-07-2012
Originally Posted by swedish cook:
“Its the one on the BT website in fact.

Youview has now been officially launched, its not prelaunch anymore, this is the latest BT deal and this is the latest TalkTalk deal. Your point that BT have not heavily publicised this deal is completely irrelevant.

If my post is foolish please correct me on the deal BT are offering.”

Please provide a link for Youview deals/pricing from BT.
swedish cook
31-07-2012
Originally Posted by wwwebber:
“Please provide a link for Youview deals/pricing from BT.”

See top of the page, thats what they have right now. A subsidised hardware deal is promised but not announced.

... but the "buy your own box" deal for BT vision content is stinky can we hope for much on the other deals. For those who think thats harsh on BT just compare the BT vision deal with the announced Youview one :

BT Vision[LIST][*]£12.50 per month for inclusive content[*]Free hardware[/LIST]
Youview BT Vision Player[LIST][*]£10 per month for inclusive content[*]£300 for the hardware[/LIST]
One would think that if I'm paying for the hardware they would discount by more than £2.50 per month !

Again, as pointed out by several above, BT have not announced their other Youview deal yet.
1andrew1
01-08-2012
Originally Posted by swedish cook:
“Its the one on the BT website in fact.

Youview has now been officially launched, its not prelaunch anymore, this is the latest BT deal and this is the latest TalkTalk deal. Your point that BT have not heavily publicised this deal is completely irrelevant.

If my post is foolish please correct me on the deal BT are offering.”

I'm sorry but I'm with everyone else on this one, please wait until BT launches its YouView service with its Pace boxes and then let's analyse both offerings.
wwwebber
01-08-2012
Originally Posted by swedish cook:
“See top of the page, thats what they have right now. A subsidised hardware deal is promised but not announced.

... but the "buy your own box" deal for BT vision content is stinky can we hope for much on the other deals. For those who think thats harsh on BT just compare the BT vision deal with the announced Youview one :

BT Vision[LIST][*]£12.50 per month for inclusive content[*]Free hardware[/LIST]
Youview BT Vision Player[LIST][*]£10 per month for inclusive content[*]£300 for the hardware[/LIST]
One would think that if I'm paying for the hardware they would discount by more than £2.50 per month !

Again, as pointed out by several above, BT have not announced their other Youview deal yet.”

Just seen the pages you're talking about. Those offers are simply for those people who have bought thier own Youview box, have BT Broadband and want BTVision content. BT don't currently offer a subsidised Youview box but they WILL, so don't try comparing until then.
freetoview33
09-08-2012
You also have to think BT has football rights
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