I would have thought it quite obvious that a number of those who have watched BB from the beginning, would have had an interest in social psychology or psychiatry, and that some might even have qualifications in these disciplines.

I will agree that quite a number of those calling for her to receive "therapy" have little or no real experience of dealing with disturbed/maladjusted people. No professional would make a diagnosis in a case like Caroline's without taking a full history and carrying out a proper assessment.

However, there are some indicators that such a process might be of some benefit.
Last edited by J4ckieBr0wn : 28-07-2012 at 19:23

No need to wink to get your point over.

How do you know what she has been protected from all her life? How do you know she has not had to deal with the reality of her behaviour - has she not been in contact with other human being all these years that she has been on Earth?

You don't know so please stop pretending otherwise.:sleep:

I guarantee you. She will have learned nothing. Why do I say this?

Because she knew throughout her time in the house - exactly what she was doing, saying and how she was treating others. She admitted this continually and repeated till we were all blue in the face, that 'she didn't care'.

As the woman herself said repeatedly: despite all the tears in the diary room: she does not care.

She KNOWS how she behaves. She knows she is a bitch. She knows she is nasty, vile, vicious.

She has learned nothing, and as sure as the morning sun comes up every day: she will learn nothing from this post mortem.

Just lie back on the couch and tell me what you were thinking when you started this thread ?

I am addessing you as it is you is posting how you see her.

Is that not the very premise of discussion on a forum?

I'm more curious about your need to categorically define someone you don't know as an irredeemable screw-up.

It says more about you than Caroline actually.

.......

Not addressing me, addressing the point that I referred to her as a flippin' girl.


Nvm..
I had hardly any sleep last night, my head hurts...
Perhaps that has hindered my inability to converse today.

Seriously..if that was me (if I was in her shoes) and I came out to all those boos and I realised just how nasty I had been..I'd not be saying 'I don't care'..sniggering, laughing... acting like what I had done was fine! I'd actually say sorry!!! Caroline never did that!!! Nasty vile person!

Me too. Easily old enough to vote, make and sustain adult relationships, be responsible for others' well-being, serve in an armed conflict, go to prison, earn a wage to keep herself, buy or rent a home. She is not a girl.
In fact there are many much younger people, physically and mentally immature, who regularly display more-rounded behaviour and understanding of how to interact with others.
She is a very flawed, grown woman.

PMSL Try sticking to having a nip at the housemates and not personally nipping at the poster - or is that perhaps the only way you can find to defend Caroline?.

I have my view on it and her - that's forum life - my view is mine and I gave it.

No need for you to remain curious - just read my reasons as already posted. The info is there already.


I have painkillers here to hand. shall I pm you some?

It's just the terminology used (not you personally... anyone and everyone who uses the word 'girl' as some (what I personally view as) as get out clause - to defend the behaviour and actions of a woman who is an adult... but who choses to act like a complete reprobate.

Now I hope you have some professional qualification to justify that final comment. The cheek of you.

Nurofen would be very welcomed.
Why is there never some..when you need 'em?

Yes, I agree that age shouldn't be a factor when trying to excuse someone's behaviour... *cough* Becky*cough*.
However, I have said on here in the past, I think she's quite nasty. So whilst not defending her, find it difficult watching the baying mob outside. Or maybe, i'm a total coward who would probably have refused to walk down those stairs.
Just don't like the idea of ppl treating eachother in a vitriolic manner, crowd and BOTS included.


Maybe, i'm also catching up to you guys now, as I didn't watch it last night.. courtesy of the Olympics, hence me getting all het up whilst it's old news for you.. (not you personally.)

I'm not a mathematician but I understand trigonometry. I'm not a chef either but I can bake cakes. I'm not a philosopher but I like to think about the meaning of life...

We're all humans with minds and emotions and so we can all relate to various psychological issues. Many people will be affected by some kind of mental health issue at some point in their life, and we all probably have mild traits of many recognised conditions.

Personally I really hate the thought police that seem to insist that only people with qualifications are allowed to ever talk about psychology.

Bb with live feed was a psychologist's dream. GPs spend 10 to 30 minutes over the course of a few consultations diagnosing patients with mental health problems. It's not unreasonable to folks to offer opinions of this nature.

Fwiw, I think BB has shown many personality types over the years, far more vividly than textbook descriptions. I don't think it's been as clear at showing mental illness in housemates, even with eccentric characters like shabhaz

PUUHHHHHLLLLZZZ don't start me on Becky. I've deliberately avoided that one.

Don't you give me the tongue.....

Belter of a point. Showers you with trillions of gold stars. Would you mind sharing them with SugarApe as well though... they are also speaking my lingo.

Possibly because they ARE in the profession or may be linked to it....and THINK they know better than everyone else.... just a thought.

Can't help it,
I blame my age tbh.

My qualification is plenty of life experience.
I can't put definitive medical labels on people, but watching Caroline on BB and then her eviction interview tells me There's Something Not Right With That One.

But you already nipped at me telling me not to use a smiley when you can't get enough of them.

You also seem to be making assumptions about other posters and what profession they are in, suggesting a certain insecurity about your own opinions. Born out by rewarding other posters who share them to encourage a pack-mentality.

This pack mentality being steered by you at an easy target, Caroline. Using the harshest terms possible to describe her, and extending it into the realm of diagnosis to legitimise your viewpoint.

All motivated no doubt by a need to make yourself feel better, which ironically is why Caroline is so nasty about people as well.

Caroline has a wee personality disorder - it's there for us all to see.

It is untreatable.

I'm a Psychologist - I love watching Big Brother. Last year's was the best imo.

I think Caroline may be insecure, like many young women, hence the crazy hair to hide behind. She was initially very upset when she put weight on, but then just thought 'sod it' and ordered £500 worth of chocolate.

She dealt with the boos and 'Get Caroline Out' very stoically, and with a sense of fun. Many would have been nervous and weepy.

She'll be alright...!

Oh, by the way, that's just my opinion. I don't think I know better than anyone else (I can't stand Psych's like those!)
Last edited by Rose_in_France : 06-08-2012 at 00:13

The only profession qualified to diagnose someone with mental disorder/illness is a psychiatrist.

She appeared to be a thoroughly spoilt, unpleasant, bullying, selfish, disrespectful, thoughtless, individual with a rather vicious tongue.

The girl had issues but it's not for me to stick a clinical diagnosis on them.