Originally Posted by Grouty:
“I think we get Argos Tv and 4seven after tomorrows switch over.”
“I think we get Argos Tv and 4seven after tomorrows switch over.”
You will also get 24hr Al Jazeera and Food Network.
19th September 2012: Freeview Retune Day
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Originally Posted by xtaz:
“Stupid feature that was implemented in version .28/.29 of the firmware. If a broadcaster sends a retune event then the HDR Fox T2 now shows a dialog box when it first comes out of standby telling you that a retune is required and gives you two options, now or later.
If you select now it does an auto retune. If you select later then it just nags you the next time you switch the box on. But this is the problem, if you do nothing then after 3 minutes it will do the retune anyway.
I suspect you switched your box on and then made a cup of tea, 3 minutes later it retuned.”
“Stupid feature that was implemented in version .28/.29 of the firmware. If a broadcaster sends a retune event then the HDR Fox T2 now shows a dialog box when it first comes out of standby telling you that a retune is required and gives you two options, now or later.
If you select now it does an auto retune. If you select later then it just nags you the next time you switch the box on. But this is the problem, if you do nothing then after 3 minutes it will do the retune anyway.
I suspect you switched your box on and then made a cup of tea, 3 minutes later it retuned.”
Thanks for that.
I wonder if the auto-switch-on that I have set at 5:30am could have triggered it?
I have this set in order to force the EPG to be refreshed on a daily basis. If I don't, then sometimes series record fails to locate the next episode - if the machine hasn't been used in a week, i.e. if I'm away on holiday.
Originally Posted by kasg:
“If Dave is still on 19 that suggests you are not doing a full rescan, just an "add channels" type. Do you have the ability to delete channels? If so, Delete Yesterday, Dave, Really and Gold and try again.”
“If Dave is still on 19 that suggests you are not doing a full rescan, just an "add channels" type. Do you have the ability to delete channels? If so, Delete Yesterday, Dave, Really and Gold and try again.”
I don't think so, the choices in 'tuning-in' menu are automatic and manual.
The latter gives quite a lot of info and options but there's a lot of button pressing to move around and select the options and each time I look at it I realise I don't know which frequency or mux to look at and it's simpler and quicker to do the whole lot on automatic.
Anyway I tried again and found Yesterday was listed in a mux and showed the small live video though not listed with other channels for viewing normally. Odd. It gave an option to delete it which I did but it deleted all channel info for all channels. Never mind, after a full auto re-scan Yesterday is there as 19 and Dave at 12.
Hooray! And thanks.
Originally Posted by elfcurry:
“Anyway I tried again and found Yesterday was listed in a mux and showed the small live video though not listed with other channels for viewing normally. Odd. It gave an option to delete it which I did but it deleted all channel info for all channels. Never mind, after a full auto re-scan Yesterday is there as 19 and Dave at 12.
Hooray! And thanks.”
“Anyway I tried again and found Yesterday was listed in a mux and showed the small live video though not listed with other channels for viewing normally. Odd. It gave an option to delete it which I did but it deleted all channel info for all channels. Never mind, after a full auto re-scan Yesterday is there as 19 and Dave at 12.
Hooray! And thanks.”
Hooray? Why does it matter a damn what channel number something is on provided you know what it is? I still haven't retuned and probably won't, I'm OK with the old channel numbers and I couldn't care less about Argos TV and the other new channels.
Originally Posted by OwenSmith:
“Hooray? Why does it matter a damn what channel number something is on provided you know what it is?”
“Hooray? Why does it matter a damn what channel number something is on provided you know what it is?”
elfcurry had actually lost channels so there was more to it than just changing the numbers.
Originally Posted by OwenSmith:
“I still haven't retuned and probably won't, I'm OK with the old channel numbers and I couldn't care less about Argos TV and the other new channels.”
“I still haven't retuned and probably won't, I'm OK with the old channel numbers and I couldn't care less about Argos TV and the other new channels.”
Fair enough, your choice, but eventually there is bound to be some event that will force you to retune.
This whole thing has been handled very badly.
I can understand retunes for the area where frequency changed but why do this piecemeal job which may not now have part two in Oct. seems to me they should have held fire until all interested parties had voiced their views and then agreed to a final switch over point rather than this mess.
But what do I know.
I can understand retunes for the area where frequency changed but why do this piecemeal job which may not now have part two in Oct. seems to me they should have held fire until all interested parties had voiced their views and then agreed to a final switch over point rather than this mess.
But what do I know.
Originally Posted by OwenSmith:
“Hooray? Why does it matter a damn what channel number something is on provided you know what it is? I still haven't retuned and probably won't, I'm OK with the old channel numbers and I couldn't care less about Argos TV and the other new channels.”
“Hooray? Why does it matter a damn what channel number something is on provided you know what it is? I still haven't retuned and probably won't, I'm OK with the old channel numbers and I couldn't care less about Argos TV and the other new channels.”
'Hooray' that the missing UKTV 'Yesterday' was restored as kasg says. It's now 19 and was 12 but I have close to zero interest in the numbering.
Hi! All
In reply to Owen Smith and as someone else has said it might not matter to you but not all televisions are the same as some will change autmatically where as with others if you do not retune you will find you can not receive the channels, now you might not like the channels but others might do and will be very unhappy if they miss a favourite episode.
In reply to Owen Smith and as someone else has said it might not matter to you but not all televisions are the same as some will change autmatically where as with others if you do not retune you will find you can not receive the channels, now you might not like the channels but others might do and will be very unhappy if they miss a favourite episode.
What was the point in changing Yesterday and Dave's place in the EPG? I thought there was going to be a big reshuffle.
Originally Posted by Paul237:
“What was the point in changing Yesterday and Dave's place in the EPG? I thought there was going to be a big reshuffle.”
“What was the point in changing Yesterday and Dave's place in the EPG? I thought there was going to be a big reshuffle.”
Just UKTV's commercial decision to give the more popular channels a lower number (although they seem to deny that was the reason). There was a scheduled retune event, so they took advantage of it. As said, the "big" reshuffle (not that it was ever going to be "big") has been postponed due to channel appeals. If you read the thread, it's all here!
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“From page 37 of that report::
We are therefore confirming our intention to create an information page on a trial basis at LCN 100.
The information page will be broadcast on Multiplex B where there is currently capacity available, pending the licensing of the fifth HD video-stream. For this reason the page will be available only to viewers with HD receivers or televisions. We aim to launch this trial at or around the time of the LCN rearrangement in September 2012. ”
“From page 37 of that report::
We are therefore confirming our intention to create an information page on a trial basis at LCN 100.
The information page will be broadcast on Multiplex B where there is currently capacity available, pending the licensing of the fifth HD video-stream. For this reason the page will be available only to viewers with HD receivers or televisions. We aim to launch this trial at or around the time of the LCN rearrangement in September 2012. ”
Three years late, but looks like this might actually be happening!
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/radio...nformation.htm
Originally Posted by chrisy:
“Three years late, but looks like this might actually be happening!
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/radio...nformation.htm”
“Three years late, but looks like this might actually be happening!
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/radio...nformation.htm”
Any information page? Intending to provide what kind of information?
Originally Posted by chrisy:
“Three years late, but looks like this might actually be happening!”
“Three years late, but looks like this might actually be happening!”
The data channel that was being referred to years ago on LCN 100 appeared years ago, and has since ceased.
It required a retune to receive it. If you did not retune at the time then I'm sorry but you have missed it by 3 years.
Originally Posted by Luis Essex:
“If you did not retune at the time then I'm sorry but you have missed it by 3 years.”
“If you did not retune at the time then I'm sorry but you have missed it by 3 years.”
The point is that a new licence has just appeared, so perhaps the idea has been resurrected.
Originally Posted by Luis Essex:
“The data channel that was being referred to years ago on LCN 100 appeared years ago, and has since ceased.
It required a retune to receive it. If you did not retune at the time then I'm sorry but you have missed it by 3 years.”
“The data channel that was being referred to years ago on LCN 100 appeared years ago, and has since ceased.
It required a retune to receive it. If you did not retune at the time then I'm sorry but you have missed it by 3 years.”
There was a static caption on 100, although I don't recall it being an information page.
http://www.terrestrialtv.uk/dtt.cgi?...so&col=LoNTMHC
I can't remember what was on it, but it wasn't on mux B. Anyone?
It looks like it was only there for a month, so it's unlikely this was an Information Channel trial: http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/industry/...s_archive_2012
Originally Posted by chrisy:
“There was a static caption on 100 though, don't recall it being an information page.
http://www.terrestrialtv.uk/dtt.cgi?...so&col=LoNTMHC
I can't remember what was on it, but it wasn't on mux B. Anyone?”
“There was a static caption on 100 though, don't recall it being an information page.
http://www.terrestrialtv.uk/dtt.cgi?...so&col=LoNTMHC
I can't remember what was on it, but it wasn't on mux B. Anyone?”
Then you saw it. The caption page contained the information about how the subsequent genres where grouped after the 12th September retune. It was to help people who did not previously know the new grouping which numbers to navigate to for the different LCN freeview ranges.
I remember it because at the time I thought it satisfied the remit of what it was announced but I could not understand how anyone would find it useful.
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