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Luc Hemingway & Eddi Mckee Appreciation thread: LEDDIE!
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Maria747
28-10-2012
Exactly hatz, quite a few leddi fans thought it was quite rushed, in terms how quickly Eddi got addicted to camoxidan quickly. Then how quickly she went back to Luc and then changing her mind again.This storyline should have run over at least 2-3 episodes to conclude in a much more coherant way. However, I have a feeling that alot information had to be jam-packed into one or two episodes due to JM's time off and SJP's plans to depart, so perhaps that is why the storyline seemed rushed.
weeziey
28-10-2012
Originally Posted by hatz:
“OK, so I know I dont trust the writers to make any logical or kind choices, but they'd never kill off Luc surely?! Even people who hate Leddi love Luc! (I think im in a minority, infact, maybe just me, who prefers Eddi to Luc)

I think they kind of shot themselves in the foot with this story line. They chose to drip feed it to us, which ok worked, but because she chose to leave, it then felt rushed and basically her reasoning didn't make sense.
Now, this may sound weird considering the name of this thread, but its almost like it didn't even happen.

The ending was just so....discombobulated! Why did they create more questions?
-Why did she change her mind so suddenly?
-Why did she need a break from Luc considering how amazing she clearly thought the past week was?
-where was she now going to get the drugs she needs from?
-Why not concluded it by her death?

They've left the door so wide open I can practically see narnia!!!
...and thats not a good thing! It should be ajar so we can hope for a return, but its so unconcluded im still expecting her to pop up next week.. :sleep:”

Brilliant Hatz you have literally made me laugh out loud with your Narina comment i totally agree with you re the unanswered questions, do we know the date of the next episode Luc is in?
Maria747
28-10-2012
@weeziey,
Luc is not in the next three coming episodes. I think we won't know if Luc is an episode until maybe thursday, when DS put out the spoilers. Our guesses is 20th November, which is quite a long for a regular character to be absent from a show unless it is stated in the storyline.
superdooper
28-10-2012
I do think it's unlikely they'd kill Luc off, although being popular would never stop them. I don't think it would be a suitable end for his character, whereas bizarrely for some characters it seems like an appropriate finale. The writers actually have an easy write out for him anyway - he either goes off with Eddi, he gets head-hunted by another hospital or just decides to up and leave to do research/travel/learn the Hula.

And yes, agree with the storyline pacing. It almost felt like SJP had suddenly decided to leave, rather than them know in advance (unless she did have to change plans quickly but I don't get that impression). I wish they could have just had her stay on maybe 2 more episodes, although maybe she felt like if she didn't go then, she might never go! Then they could have had one episode of kidnap-crazy-times, one similar to the wedding set over 5/6 days with scenes intercut with Eddi's progression through the withdrawal (and more about her past revealed). Then two episodes of her back at the hospital - one where she gets found out and the next with her considering what to do, scenes with Liam and Luc etc. and her leaving.
weeziey
28-10-2012
Originally Posted by Maria747:
“@weeziey,
Luc is not in the next three coming episodes. I think we won't know if Luc is an episode until maybe thursday, when DS put out the spoilers. Our guesses is 20th November, which is quite a long for a regular character to be absent from a show unless it is stated in the storyline.”

Thanks Maria, that is too long but we are used to it & hopefully it will be worth the wait
Kaishei
28-10-2012
Originally Posted by hatz:
“ The ending was just so....discombobulated! Why did they create more questions?
-Why did she change her mind so suddenly?
-Why did she need a break from Luc considering how amazing she clearly thought the past week was?
-where was she now going to get the drugs she needs from?
-Why not concluded it by her death?”

Well, yes, it was rather rushed - but at the end of the day, that's what happened. I've said this before, but if they kill off one, they have to kill of the other and make a tragedy of it. Luc is a very popular character, so I don't think they would kill him off.

Discombobulated... I have never... I just... who comes up with these things? Seriously, the origin of that word is one I want to know.

The need to add more questions was very much so because they want Eddi to come back, and to make it obvious to the viewers that they want her to come back - that she isn't finished and that if she ever comes back then there will be storylines for her. That also stands for why they didn't kill her.

The where she was going to get drugs from was one I definitely think they didn't really consider - unless the plan was for Liam to take her to a rehab clinic (which I doubt, and I don't know how that would work anyway).

As for suddenly changing her mind - that was very much down to Liam. I kinda liked the guy the first time we saw him, but this time I really didn't. He pretty much forced her to leave, I can understand why and his motives, but it doesn't make it right. He took her vulnerable state, he threw all her mistakes at her and fed her insecurity to make her change her mind. She left because she was vulnerable and confused and Liam made sure that she remembered how much she could hurt Luc, and made it seem like she would - and so convinced her to go before she hurt him. (That happened anyway, but I don't really think she realizes how much, or at least at the time of leaving).

Lol, Narnia.
hatz
28-10-2012
Originally Posted by Kars:
“ It also wasn't necessary for her to say she wanted to stay with Luc, the conclusion she came to about needing to be away from him would have made sense at the start of the episode. After what he had done it would have been fair enough to go with, 'this is toxic' and I'm not ready right now. There was no need for that kiss that said we are together. Did they think that this would somehow make what they did OK? If that was the plan then it failed. Very inconsistent.”

I have to say I agree. As much as I love Leddi, I'd sooner they'd not got 'back together' [I use that in the loosest possible way!] Although the reason I feel the writers did this was because I think they were making it clear she did love him and althought, she did leave, she didnt want to.
Originally Posted by Maria747:
“I have a feeling that alot information had to be jam-packed into one or two episodes due to JM's time off and SJP's plans to depart, so perhaps that is why the storyline seemed rushed.”

This is a reason I feel for the writers, my guess is they would have loved more time, but there were 5 weeks between JM returning and SJP leaving and they already had a major storyline pencil in for this time, infact two!
The wedding, which was always going to be a series finale, but couldn't hanssen have got kidnapped another day...?
Infact neither were in that episode, so that left them with 4 episodes to pull this off, and two had Max in.

I feel they could have even used the day build up of the wedding as 5 days in the field, rather than watching her get addicted over the course of that week. The addiction we could have imagined...what happened/was said in the field could have make her leaving more clear, less weird.

Originally Posted by Kaishei:
“Discombobulated... I have never... I just... who comes up with these things? Seriously, the origin of that word is one I want to know.

I kinda liked the guy the first time we saw him, but this time I really didn't. He pretty much forced her to leave, I can understand why and his motives, but it doesn't make it right. He took her vulnerable state, he threw all her mistakes at her and fed her insecurity to make her change her mind. She left because she was vulnerable and confused and Liam made sure that she remembered how much she could hurt Luc, and made it seem like she would - and so convinced her to go before she hurt him..”

Popped into my head and just has too use it..

Yes, I like Liam first time round, but hated him in the what, 2 minutes, he was onscreen this time!
They way he did it was horrible, ok she needed tough love, but that was just tough...Luc was tough love!
Liam has deal with an alcoholic and ok, I know its the same principle and being a drug addict, but its not like she was going out getting crack She'd have been better off with a doctor and someone who had her best interests at heart. ie Luc.
I guess, again, they were trying to make it clear, Eddi didnt want to leave. She did infact love Luc and want to be with him. Which is lovely, but unless we see an outcome at some point, its all very much pointless. I really dont think they'd leave so many obvious reasons for a return and so many future storylines if they had no intention of asking sjp to come back. When other characters leave their storyline is pretty much closed, even if they are attached to another character, but I've never known a story to be as incomplete as this one. Can only boad well for the future, right?

@Superdooper Learn the hula? haha.. *thinks of Luc in hula skirt on beach *

Oh and Kaishei, where you been? Missing your regular posts!
Kaishei
28-10-2012
Haha, I've been reading, but I guess I just haven't had much to say. I've suddenly been turned off TV - I won't put that down to Holby (it didn't help), but every now and then I just get really put off certain stuff. The first time it happened was videogames, then TV, music etc etc. I'm back on the video games, music is really irritating me now and I'm completely off the TV, and I think I'm back on books at the moment. Needless to say, I'm struggling with it all. The Analeddiest stuff and the fanfiction and all that will have to hold till Wednesday I would say, by then the only thing I'll have left to do is my homework and type up my college notes. It's always the last resort, and even when I really hate something, it still trumps school work Also been looking for business ventures, no such luck though. Selling is easy - I'm just stuck on the part where you decide what you want to sell. Apparently, "I'm cool with whatever, it doesn't make much difference to me - I'll be interested in whatever is going to make me money!" isn't a good mindframe.
Maria747
28-10-2012
I am wondering how I am going to cope till 20th November. I have run out steam of what to contribute to this thread. Since last week's penultimate, unsatisfying and inconclusive episode, this thread has kept me going after the traumatic outcome of 'chasing demons'. I still can't watch the last 10 minutes as I am still in denial. Fanfiction has kept me positive.

We need more clues in the episode where Luc turns up, so at least it can re-ignite the debate again (Eddi's persona will always be looming large in Luc's pysche) and in our minds regardless of her absence and whatever Luc thinks or how he reacts to certain situations, I will always think, was that influence of Eddi or not? Hope you all get my drift here.
I still can't believe that I am so hooked on this couple pairing, I suppose Luc and Eddi have got under our skin !
Maria747
28-10-2012
Ok, its probably mundane thing to discuss, I was re-reading Bob Barrett's (BB) interview and there was a question on the leddi relationship.

Q=Besides Chrissie and Sacha’s relationship, what’s Sacha’s take on Eddi and Luc’s relationship?

A=The Eddi/ Luc storyline is ongoing. Sacha is very fond of them. He loves Eddi and Luc and he likes that relationship. He realises that you have to be hands off with them because they are quite private and in their own bubble but from a distance he’s always trying to manoeuvre and trying to help that. We’re a tight group on AAU - got to keep the family together!

BB gave that interview mid to end september didn't he? Hatz you are good at dates.

From that answer, I got the impression that Luc and Eddi would still be in a few more episodes at least. Now, that answer confuses me because of the ambiguous outcome of 'Chasing Demons'. Does anyone else think so ?
hatz
28-10-2012
I have times like that too Kaishei, Just dont jump ship ok? Better to go down with the ship than jump of early .....not that this ship is going down!!
I look forward to your analysis of old episodes and fanfics too much!

@Maria. Yes, Im finding the 20th November waaaaaay to far away... he might be in the 13th though, we dont know yet. Still, thats long enought too!
I remembered when we were struggling after a two week gap from their first kiss! That seems so long ago now actually and we are no better off now...or any the wiser over this whole charade

To be honest, in my head shes still there, I dont think I will actually realise until I see him in an episode and I'll be like 'oh, ok...wow, its happened' then it will be weird.

We can still discuss all the other episodes though, we still have Luc to watch, we still have JM twitter [who is off to cardiff..where I annoyingly left at 3pm this afternoon!!] we still have SJP instgram, we have fanfiction! Technically we should be grateful Leddi happened at all...but no, I wont be satisfied until the story si concluded.

EDIT: @Maria. It does sound odd, but at the end of the day I think they [JM/JY/BB] were told to answer the questions as if Eddi wasn't leaving. Else we would have cottoned on, OR they were told to answer them as if they were talking about the episode about to air. In which case, the 'ongoing luc/eddi storyline' would have been the wedding/field/departure.

I cant say im looking forward to tuesdays episode, but no doubt I will watch, one thing that just struck me is our Eddi wont be in the opening titles....Argh!
Maria747
28-10-2012
Ok, I know its depressing but found this leddi youtube video by TheAmeey,its very poignant. It definitely 'Madness'.

Can anyone recognise the artist and the song ? I think its Muse, I am not sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqU0C...ature=g-high-u
Maria747
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by Maria747:
“Ok, I know its depressing but found this leddi youtube video by TheAmeey,its very poignant. It definitely 'Madness'.

Can anyone recognise the artist and the song ? I think its Muse, I am not sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqU0C...ature=g-high-u”


These are still shots of leddi, pretty good, and I love Nina Simone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHBoEVGEJM4
Bex4U
29-10-2012
I know it doesn't matter now that Leddi has split (for now, I'm ever the optimist) but does anyone else feel like the week has dragged? It feels like months ago since Eddi left when in actual fact it was only last week! Maybe the heartache combined with not re-watching older Leddi episodes or the last one over and over again each day, (I can't bring myself to watch them because I'll expect Eddi to be right alongside Luc in the next episode, but knowing that won't be the case and reality is cruelly forced back on me) has dragged it out.

Still loving the Leddi songs, even though they make me feel depressed at times. It's a weird feeling. I'm kind of comforted by them in a way, it's hard to explain. Hope you understand.

Think I may watch the last Leddi episode before I go on holiday, so that would mean tomorrow, so I better prepare myself!
Sickhed
29-10-2012
Bex4u I know what you mean this week has defo dragged and I can't bring myself to watch a more then the first 5 mins of the last ep coz its down hill from there. I'm not even going to bother with tomorrow's ep

Just a thought what if the new doc from Australia is there covering for luc while he takes a 8 ep break coz that's how long she's in it for
Maria747
29-10-2012
@Sickhed, I don't even watch it after the last day in the camper van.

I know how you gals feel. I am so un-enthusiastic to watch tomorrow night's episode. I will watch it just to be casually updated with general storylines but won't have an interest with many of the characters apart from Luc tbh and Hanssen. AAU is just not going to be the same without the leddi dyanamic. The only thing I am looking foward to (in a sad way as well as Eddi will not be there to witness this) is Luc''s reaction when he comes back to adjust with life without Eddi and his past. I think he will put on a ' I am ok front' but when he is on his own, who know. He will probably put all his eneregies into his work to block the emotions out.

I think the new Australian doc will be rotating between AAU and Keller, I don't think she is covering for Luc as such. as I read somewhere that Ric becomes her mentor.
Sickhed
29-10-2012
Oh I haven't heard that ric is her mentor I only thought she was covering luc cos he's not in 3 eps plus from when she starts but he's more likely just lying low
Kars
29-10-2012
I too feel the same. I have no desire to watch it tomorrow so I won't I'm still really annoyed I so need to get over this but I can't. I can't watch the last episode apart from the first 5 minutes and then I make up my own ending. That seems to work for me I'm looking forward to seeing Luc and I really hope he is OK, can't cope with a really depressed Luc. And like I've said don't trust the writers to keep me happy.

As for this thread, I hope we can keep this going. I love reading your comments and it would be a real shame if this has to end to.

@Kaishei
I agree with Hatz, don't jump ship we need you on this thread Hopefully you will feel better soon.

@Bex4U
This week has really dragged. Tuesday doesn't have the same excitement anymore. No more counting down the days or hours. The prospect of AAU without Leddie is unbearable.

Also, the thought of watching Chrissie, she was so out of order to Eddie last week. I never really disliked her that much but now I can't stand her.
Maria747
29-10-2012
You know what, whenever they put out a spoiler, I am going to put a comment and lobby to bring back Eddi for 1 episode at least.

@Kars
My sentiments exactly, I just imagine my own leddi ending, its not all moonlight and roses but alot of sarcasm, battle of wits, humour, angst, in between what was that phrase Michael used ' bumping uglies on the lovebus , but happy outcome when Eddi is reading the map on the way to Barcelona and they get lost on the way ( or breakdown in the middle of Provence, I couldnt make my mind up which scenario I wanted) and Luc being his usually sarky self. Holby writers are my no 1 pet hate at the moment and Chrissie too.
I am just going to rewatch old episodes on youtube to bide my time.
Bex4U
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by Maria747:
“You know what, whenever they put out a spoiler, I am going to put a comment and lobby to bring back Eddi for 1 episode at least.

@Kars
My sentiments exactly, I just imagine my own leddi ending, its not all moonlight and roses but alot of sarcasm, battle of wits, humour, angst, in between what was that phrase Michael used ' bumping uglies on the lovebus , but happy outcome when Eddi is reading the map on the way to Barcelona and they get lost on the way ( or breakdown in the middle of Provence, I couldnt make my mind up which scenario I wanted) and Luc being his usually sarky self. Holby writers are my no 1 pet hate at the moment and Chrissie too.
I am just going to rewatch old episodes on youtube to bide my time.”

Sounds like a very good plan Maria! Go for it!

Now that does sound like a very good Leddi ending. Very them. I wouldn't say I hated the writers, I still think the last ep was very well done, very moving as seen through our reactions, but I am disappointed in the amount of screen time Leddi had overall. Far too little for my liking!

When I get back from holiday that's no doubt what I will be doing, but I may watch from the beginning of when Eddi arrives at Holby. Get the whole feeling of both their journeys, that and I can't remeber what she was like before Luc, not really.
Maria747
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by Bex4U:
“Sounds like a very good plan Maria! Go for it!

Now that does sound like a very good Leddi ending. Very them. I wouldn't say I hated the writers, I still think the last ep was very well done, very moving as seen through our reactions, but I am disappointed in the amount of screen time Leddi had overall. Far too little for my liking!

When I get back from holiday that's no doubt what I will be doing, but I may watch from the beginning of when Eddi arrives at Holby. Get the whole feeling of both their journeys, that and I can't remeber what she was like before Luc, not really.”

I am annoyed with the writers because of they way they left so many unresolved questions and now we will never know the outcome. Agree, the amount of screen was very little compared to Jac and Joseph, even Sahira and Greg but the time leddi had been on screen seemed to have had a lasting and affecting presence in all our minds, even now.

Bex, do watch Eddi when she makes her entrance (I think its Series 13. episode 34), its so funny. She was so vibrant, charming and hilarious at the same time. I think all the scenes she was in were amazing.
Kars
29-10-2012
@Maria747
Good idea! Just hope they listen And I agree, a lovely and funny ending. And I'm also unsure of how well written that episode was. I think it was the confusion and the frustration of it that has got me reacting this way. I feel like they messed with my head. And yes it has got me talking about it and I have loved the whole Leddie story but now I seriously put off HC.

@ Bex4U
Have a lovely holiday
Bex4U
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by Kars:
“@Maria747
Good idea! Just hope they listen And I agree, a lovely and funny ending. And I'm also unsure of how well written that episode was. I think it was the confusion and the frustration of it that has got me reacting this way. I feel like they messed with my head. And yes it has got me talking about it and I have loved the whole Leddie story but now I seriously put off HC.

@ Bex4U
Have a lovely holiday ”

They have left more questions than answers, that I admit, and that's, I guess you can say that is where my frustration lies. Apart from that I did enjoy the way it was done, though it left me devastated.

@Kars And thanks! I'm sure I will....will need it after the Leddi downfall!
hatz
29-10-2012
I dont think this oz doc is covering for Luc. An 8 ep absense? Thats like 2 months Plus that'd be like the end of december and we know he has been filming lots and he is in christmas/new year episodes!

Having watched the last episode again I have to say it gets so much easier!! But yes this week has dragged! Im still not sure its sunk in she has left, especially because Luc wont be there either. I think until he comes back on our screens it wont feel any different, which in a way is nice. Gives us grieving time!
I think something I dont like the thought of it her not being in the opening credits! That'll be weird...

I am annoyed at the situation rather than the writers. I feel it was more a combination of bad timing rather than something they wanted to do, infact probably far from what they had planned. They've created such a unique couple that was far from anything thats been done before, I dont think they were ready to let them go, they were just unlcuky, as were we.
Bex4U
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by hatz:
“I dont think this oz doc is covering for Luc. An 8 ep absense? Thats like 2 months Plus that'd be like the end of december and we know he has been filming lots and he is in christmas/new year episodes!

Having watched the last episode again I have to say it gets so much easier!! But yes this week has dragged! Im still not sure its sunk in she has left, especially because Luc wont be there either. I think until he comes back on our screens it wont feel any different, which in a way is nice. Gives us grieving time!
I think something I dont like the thought of it her not being in the opening credits! That'll be weird...

I am annoyed at the situation rather than the writers. I feel it was more a combination of bad timing rather than something they wanted to do, infact probably far from what they had planned. They've created such a unique couple that was far from anything thats been done before, I dont think they were ready to let them go, they were just unlcuky, as were we. ”

That I'm going to find very weird! I'll be happy once Luc returns....well as happy as one can be with only half of Leddi. I'm still keeping my hopes up that SJP is taking a year out and will turn up at least at the end of series 15, or at least whenever Luc leaves the show (which I hope won't be imminnent)
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