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Results:Should networks be allowed to charge extra for tethering?
Yes
26 (29.55%)
No
62 (70.45%)
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Should networks be allowed to charge extra for tethering?
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Steve™
31-07-2012
I think its disgusting. I think how I use the data included shouldn't be up for discussion, unless I exceed fair use.

What do you think?
Richard_T
31-07-2012
If you get X amount of data per month then there should be no aditional charge, or restriction on how you use it.
if you get true unlimited internet then it should be restrictied in some way ( ie 500mb/1GB of tethering per month after that tethering is blocked unless you pay )
CoolboyA
31-07-2012
Originally Posted by Richard_T:
“If you get X amount of data per month then there should be no aditional charge, or restriction on how you use it.
if you get true unlimited internet then it should be restrictied in some way ( ie 500mb/1GB of tethering per month after that tethering is blocked unless you pay )”

I agree. It would be like giving someone 500 potatoes, but stipulating that they must never make mash with them as that would allow you more for your money...
psionic
31-07-2012
I'd agree with the above. If your data is capped to x amount per month, it should be up to you how you use that amount.

However if you have 'unlimited' internet, it seems reasonable that tethering is not allowed.
daclick
31-07-2012
Do vodafone charge for tethering?
Bagsbunny
31-07-2012
Any business is "allowed" to charge whatever it wants for its products and services,provided it is transparent and within terms of contract. A corner shop is "allowed" to charge £60 for a Mars Bar if it wants: but you'd be stupid to pay it,instead of going next door and get it for 60p. Moreover the shop would be stupid to do so, people would avoid doing business with it.

Similarly, a mobile company is "allowed" to charge £100 for a text, or a million for an iPhone,or a seperate/additional charge for tethering. It's their decision if they want to lose your business to the firm next door, and they may well choose that they can afford to lose the small number of people who use 50-100 gb a month downloading movies.
Thine Wonk
31-07-2012
The problem is data doesn't really make the networks money. At the moment calls and SMS are subsiding data users. If you had to pay your fair amount for the amount of data then you'd pay a lot more, however due to competition they subsidise data to get phone customers / contracts.

I think it's fair if they give unlimited data to say it's handset browsing only, just like all you can eat in a restaurant might include certain foods only.
Steve™
31-07-2012
Originally Posted by Bagsbunny:
“Any business is "allowed" to charge whatever it wants for its products and services,provided it is transparent and within terms of contract. A corner shop is "allowed" to charge £60 for a Mars Bar if it wants: but you'd be stupid to pay it,instead of going next door and get it for 60p. Moreover the shop would be stupid to do so, people would avoid doing business with it.

Similarly, a mobile company is "allowed" to charge £100 for a text, or a million for an iPhone,or a seperate/additional charge for tethering. It's their decision if they want to lose your business to the firm next door, and they may well choose that they can afford to lose the small number of people who use 50-100 gb a month downloading movies.”


You sound like you are making a point we have all missed. We are all aware they are currently "allowed to".

The point/discussion was, should they be allowed to.

And also, fair use in the terms and conditions and can be enforced whether the data is used on phone or client of the phone.

And also where did you get 50 - 100gb from??!

Nobody gets away with that much, even on the most generous tarrifs. On most networks the unlimited doesnt mean unlimited data.

T-Mobile for example charges £10 extra and allows 1.5gb max.

And its pretty silly to assume that anyone having issue with being charged for tethering is downloading huge amounts like 50 - 100gb.
Steve™
31-07-2012
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“The problem is data doesn't really make the networks money. At the moment calls and SMS are subsiding data users. If you had to pay your fair amount for the amount of data then you'd pay a lot more, however due to competition they subsidise data to get phone customers / contracts.

I think it's fair if they give unlimited data to say it's handset browsing only, just like all you can eat in a restaurant might include certain foods only.”


That cant be right.

Three do a mobile broadband sim only option for putting in an ipad. £15 for 10GB a month on a 30day contract. Why would they do deals like that if it didnt make them money?

I disagree anyway. I think mobile operators too often use the fact its "mobile" to sting users with high prices, when in fact it should be cheaper than wired. If I can get unlimited on BT Broadband, why cant I get similar on a mobile network?
jabbamk1
31-07-2012
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“You sound like you are making a point we have all missed. We are all aware they are currently "allowed to".


And also where did you get 50 - 100gb from??!

Nobody gets away with that much, even on the most generous tarrifs. On most networks the unlimited doesnt mean unlimited data.

T-Mobile for example charges £10 extra and allows 1.5gb max.

And its pretty silly to assume that anyone having issue with being charged for tethering is downloading huge amounts like 50 - 100gb.”

I've used 40GB on Three and know another guy who uses around 80GB per month on Three as well. We both have not had any letters from Three saying to stop. In fact i know loads of people who break the 20GB+ barrier on Three every month. I get around 12mbps download speed so thats why its convenient to use it for streaming videos / downloading and thats why i use so much.

But yeh, i agree. There should be tethering limits for truly unlimited plans if the network can't support that much data through tethering (which it can't)

Allow tethering on capped plans like o2 do.
Steve™
31-07-2012
Originally Posted by jabbamk1:
“I've used 40GB on Three and know another guy who uses around 80GB per month on Three as well. We both have not had any letters from Three saying to stop. In fact i know loads of people who break the 20GB+ barrier on Three every month. I get around 12mbps download speed so thats why its convenient to use it for streaming videos / downloading and thats why i use so much.

But yeh, i agree. There should be tethering limits for truly unlimited plans if the network can't support that much data through tethering (which it can't)

Allow tethering on capped plans like o2 do.”

I believe in limits, but not the tethering fee.

Question, if they are offering 10gb for £15 on the sim only deal, what kind of plan are you on to get 80gb+ ?!
jabbamk1
31-07-2012
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“I believe in limits, but not the tethering fee.

Question, if they are offering 10gb for £15 on the sim only deal, what kind of plan are you on to get 80gb+ ?!”

The one plan with unlimited tethering.
T-Mobile have their own version (full monty) as well.
Like_I_care
31-07-2012
I'm on the OnePLan on 3 and there is no charge for tethering, it allowed free of charge.
dmp
31-07-2012
3 wanted me to take out a new contract with unlimited internet, he kept stressing the fact that it was unlimited and I could download as much as I wanted. At the moment I have 500mb a month and when on holiday I do tether and never had any problems from 3.
Dave
Daveoc64
31-07-2012
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“I believe in limits, but not the tethering fee.

Question, if they are offering 10gb for £15 on the sim only deal, what kind of plan are you on to get 80gb+ ?!”

T-Mobile and Three both offer unlimited data with unlimited tethering

Orange also offers unlimited data, but without tethering.
daclick
01-08-2012
Damn. I work for vodafone via a recruitment agency (I've just started) I wasn't aware of tethering charges and actually used my phone as a thethering point the other day to update a customers phone as the tech guy was on lunch, my bill still looks normal but if I see a rise ill have to talk to my manager
Bagsbunny
01-08-2012
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“You sound like you are making a point we have all missed. We are all aware they are currently "allowed to".

The point/discussion was, should they be allowed to.

And also, fair use in the terms and conditions and can be enforced whether the data is used on phone or client of the phone.

And also where did you get 50 - 100gb from??!

Nobody gets away with that much, even on the most generous tarrifs. On most networks the unlimited doesnt mean unlimited data.



T-Mobile for example charges £10 extra and allows 1.5gb max.

And its pretty silly to assume that anyone having issue with being charged for tethering is downloading huge amounts like 50 - 100gb.”

There certainly are unlimited data tariffs.My experience of posters on these boards tells me there are people on unlimited data tarrifs replacing their home broadband with tethered phones (also conversations with my customers and colleagues-I work for T-Mobile). They are happy to sacrifice speed in order to be able to download a HD movie off a torrent site overnight.
ramzez
01-08-2012
I think yes in case of unlimited internet and no in case of limited.
carguy143
01-08-2012
I think tethering should be free as you already pay for the data regardless of how you use it. I mean you wouldn't buy a bottle of water in a cafe and pay extra for a glass, would you?
That Bloke
02-08-2012
If it's an unlimited tariff then yes, they should be allowed to charge extra because otherwise people will try it on. If it's a set amount of data then no, there's really no reason for it.
Alkar
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by daclick:
“Do vodafone charge for tethering?”

No. They allow you to use your monthly data allowance how you like.
niceguy1966
03-08-2012
It's the stupid policy of offering "unlimited" then trying to restrict the volume by limiting the type of usage I object to. What next, an unlimited tariff with premium to watch streaming HD video?
-ajm-
04-08-2012
Originally Posted by daclick:
“Do vodafone charge for tethering?”

They've never charged me for it.
-ajm-
04-08-2012
Just seems a bit excessive to charge.
alan1302
04-08-2012
Should they be allowed to charge? Of course they should - would be a waste of government time to ban it.

Not that I think companies should try and restrict it....I think you should be able to use the data as you wish.
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